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Weather’s Unwanted Guest: Nasty La Nina Keeps Showing Up
Insurqnce Journal ^ | 6-2-2022 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 06/02/2022 3:11:25 AM PDT by blam

Something weird is up with La Nina, the natural but potent weather event linked to more drought and wildfires in the western United States and more Atlantic hurricanes. It’s becoming the nation’s unwanted weather guest and meteorologists said the West’s megadrought won’t go away until La Nina does.

The current double-dip La Nina set a record for strength last month and is forecast to likely be around for a rare but not quite unprecedented third straight winter. And it’s not just this one. Scientists are noticing that in the past 25 years the world seems to be getting more La Ninas than it used to and that is just the opposite of what their best computer model simulations say should be happening with human-caused climate change.

“They (La Ninas) don’t know when to leave,” said Michelle L’Heureux, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecast office for La Nina and its more famous flip side, El Nino.

An Associated Press statistical analysis of winter La Ninas show that they used to happen about 28% of the time from 1950 to 1999, but in the past 25 winters, they’ve been brewing nearly half the time. There’s a small chance that this effect could be random, but if the La Nina sticks around this winter, as forecast, that would push the trend over the statistically significant line, which is key in science, said L’Heureux. Her own analysis shows that La Nina-like conditions are occurring more often in the last 40 years. Other new studies are showing similar patterns.

What’s bothering many scientists is that their go-to climate simulation models that tend to get conditions right over the rest of the globe predict more El Ninos, not La Ninas, and that’s causing contention in the climate community about what to believe, according to Columbia University climate scientist Richard Seager and MIT hurricane scientist Kerry Emanuel.

What Seager and other scientists said is happening is that the eastern equatorial Atlantic is not warming as fast as the western equatorial Atlantic or even the rest of the world with climate change. And it’s not the amount of warming that matters but the difference between the west and east. The more the difference, the more likely a La Nina, the less the difference, the more likely an El Nino. Scientists speculate it could be related to another natural cycle, called the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, or it could be caused by human-caused climate change or both.

“At this point we just don’t know,” L’Heureux said. “Scientists are watching and I know, are actively studying. But it’s really important because of regional conditions. We need to get this right.”

La Nina is a natural and cyclical cooling of parts of the equatorial Pacific that changes weather patterns worldwide, as opposed to El Nino’s warming. Often leading to more Atlantic hurricanes, less rain and more wildfires in the West and agricultural losses in the middle of the country, studies have shown La Nina is more expensive to the United States than the El Nino. Together El Nino, La Nina and the neutral condition are called ENSO, which stands for El Nino Southern Oscillation, and they have one of the largest natural effects on climate, at times augmenting and other times dampening the big effects of human-caused climate change from the burning of coal, oil and gas, scientists said.

“They really have a very, very strong” effect, said research scientist Azhar Ehsan, who heads Columbia University’s El Nino/La Nina forecasting. “So a third consecutive La Nina is not at all a welcome thing.”

He said the dangerous heat in India and Pakistan this month and in April is connected to La Nina.

The current La Nina formed in the late summer of 2020 when the Atlantic set a record for the number of named storms. It strengthened in the winter when the West’s drought worsened and in the early summer of 2021 it weakened enough that NOAA said conditions were neutral. But that pause only lasted a few months and by early fall 2021 La Nina was back, making it a double dip.

Normally second years of La Nina tend to be weaker, but in April this La Nina surprised meteorologists by setting a record for intensity in April, which is based on sea surface temperatures, Ehsan said.

“These are very impressive values for April,” L’Heureux said. Still, because La Ninas historically weaken over summer and there are slight signs that this one may be easing a bit, there’s the small but increasing chance that this La Nina could warm just enough to be considered neutral in late summer.

La Nina has its biggest effect in the winter and that’s when it is a problem for the West because it’s the rainy season that is supposed to recharge areas reservoirs. But the West is in a 22-year megadrought, about the same time period of increasing La Nina frequency.

Three factors — ENSO, climate change and randomness — are biggest when it comes to the drought, which is itself a huge trigger for massive wildfires, said UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain. Without climate change, La Nina and bad luck could have made the drought the worst in 300 years but with climate change it’s the worst in at least 1,200 years, said UCLA climate hydrologist Park Williams.

La Nina “is a pretty important player; it may be the dominant player,” said Swain, who has a blog on Western weather. “It could be responsible for one-third, maybe one-half of the given conditions if it is pronounced enough.”

“It’s much less likely that the Southwest will see at least even a partial recovery from the megadrought during La Nina,” Swain said.

La Nina “amps up your Atlantic storms” but decreases them in the Pacific, said Colorado State University hurricane researcher Phil Klotzbach.

It’s all about winds 6 to 7 miles (10 to 12 kilometers) above the water surface. One of the key factors in storm development is whether there is wind shear, which are changes in wind from high to low elevations. Wind shear can decapitate or tip over hurricanes, making them hard to strengthen and at times even stick around. Wind shear can also let dry air into hurricanes that chokes them.

When there’s an El Nino, there’s lots of Atlantic wind shear and it’s hard for hurricanes to get going. But La Nina means little wind shear in the Atlantic, making it easier for storms to intensify and do it quickly, said University of Albany hurricane researcher Kristen Corbosiero.

“That’s a really huge factor,” Corbosiero said.

“Whatever is the cause, the increasing incidence of La Ninas may be behind the increasing hurricanes,” MIT’s Emanuel said.

Some areas like eastern Australia and the arid Sahel region of Africa do better with more rain during La Nina. India and Pakistan, even though they get extra spring heat, also receive more needed rain in La Ninas, Columbia’s Ehsan said.

A 1999 economic study found that drought from La Nina cost the United States agriculture between $2.2 billion to $6.5 billion, which is far more than the $1.5 billion cost of El Nino. A neutral ENSO is best for agriculture.

Columbia’s Seager said even though there may be some chance and some natural cycles behind the changes in La Nina, because there’s likely a climate change factor he thinks there will probably be more of them.


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KEYWORDS: drought; elnino; lanina; weather
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1 posted on 06/02/2022 3:11:25 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Fair amount of surprise and uncertainty there.

But the one thing we do know for sure is that the seas will rise 0.87 inches in 100 years.


2 posted on 06/02/2022 3:22:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives want to demoralize people so that they are afraid to be ambitious.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Still waiting for that 20ft sea rise that was supposed to happen by 2015.


3 posted on 06/02/2022 3:26:02 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: blam

It’s a cycle...big whoop...we have to live with it. Maybe stop moving to drought areas.


4 posted on 06/02/2022 3:42:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: blam
Okay, so: Warming is good and cooling is bad and we really have no understanding or control over it but we must spend trillions that we can't afford to battle global warming.
Did I miss something?

5 posted on 06/02/2022 3:47:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: blam

When it comes to those climate change models, I have four letters: GIGO.


6 posted on 06/02/2022 4:09:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: BitWielder1

Just that climate change policy isn’t about saving the planet any more than CoupFlu policy is about protecting public health.


7 posted on 06/02/2022 4:10:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: BitWielder1

They don’t mention the most noticeable effect of La Nina which is that it cools the whole earth. El Nino makes the earth hotter. Last month the globe was only .17 degrees above the 30 year average (UAH number). Can’t convince everyone to fork over trillions for windmills if it’s only .17 degrees “too warm”.


8 posted on 06/02/2022 4:15:40 AM PDT by brookwood (Government discriminates against you, and if you complain, calls you a racist.)
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To: blam

IOW, they are no better at predicting climate change than they are at predicting tomorrow’s weather.

Computer weather models are only as good as the programs written for them and the data entered and they are not always in agreement with other models.

Making absolutist statements based on model data is irresponsible.


9 posted on 06/02/2022 4:45:08 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: BitWielder1

Exactly


10 posted on 06/02/2022 4:58:16 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: metmom
Computer weather models are only as good as the programs written for them and the data entered and they are not always in agreement with other models.

It is actually worse than that. Due to the non-linear equation governing weather and climate models, long-term predictability is virtually impossible.

11 posted on 06/02/2022 5:16:35 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: blam; Oldeconomybuyer

“that the eastern equatorial Atlantic is not warming as fast as the western equatorial Atlantic or even the rest of the world with climate change...Scientists speculate it could be related to another natural cycle...or it could be caused by human-caused climate change or both.”

Pretty much sums up Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations (C.A.C.A. - The acronym explains the science.)


12 posted on 06/02/2022 5:18:20 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is NOT a religion of any sort. It is a violent and tyrannical system of ruling others.)
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To: blam

If only we paid more taxes for a bigger government we would have perfect weather all the time.


13 posted on 06/02/2022 5:23:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: blam

We had the wettest, coolest summer in Arizona I ever saw last year. One day mid July it was sunny and 75 degrees. The entire city showed up to the party district that afternoon. It was like a massive planned celebration. Bring Nina, she’s a party-gal.


14 posted on 06/02/2022 5:30:10 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: brookwood

Yes, sir. Per my post above! It was amazing!!!


15 posted on 06/02/2022 5:30:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: blam

Weather guessers.

Wrong most of the time, and yet, they still have jobs.


16 posted on 06/02/2022 5:36:33 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: blam

If you don’t want draughts and hurricanes there is a simple answer, move to the Northeast.

And, you can pick you poison from multiple hard Left states like NY or MA or CT or NJ.


17 posted on 06/02/2022 5:38:53 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: blam
“At this point we just don’t know,” L’Heureux said.

Heuristic (/hjʊˈrɪstɪk/; from Ancient Greek εὑρίσκω (heurískō) 'I find, discover').

How ironic!

Regards,

18 posted on 06/02/2022 5:49:39 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: metmom

Of course No mention of SunSpot activity increasing during the same periods.

Also no mention that sunspot forecasts have been wrong for the same period.

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-sun-is-way-more-active-than-official-solar-weather-predictions

The only accurate prediction and outcome is their taxing of us for this nonsense and the squandering of that money.


19 posted on 06/02/2022 7:40:04 AM PDT by jcon40 (Machinery is only as good as its design and quality of parts. A citizen is only as good as...)
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To: blam

“Scientists” are desperate to find a way to pin this on humans. Facts and history are not important, only the distant future when no one here now will be alive to check their sham guesses.


20 posted on 06/02/2022 7:42:23 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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