Posted on 04/19/2022 8:54:06 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
"My son was found on the barracks floor by a 19-year-old non-medical sailor. Kyle did not die in a hospital as the media continually states inaccurately.
Another SEAL candidate was sent to the hospital that day, Feb. 4, 2022, in critical condition. That individual was intubated and treated for severe pneumonia, which is what I believe Kyle also had.
The Navy to this date has yet to reveal Kyle’s autopsy results, which is another concerning matter."
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SEAL training is very dangerous by its nature, I would think.
She deserves the truth, but if she is looking for a payout, I doubt that would be in the books unless there was something truly nefarious going on.
When I was in Counter Insurgency/Weapons training at the NavAmphibBase in Coronado (near Dago) in 1968 I used to see the UDT guys in training running everywhere with those neoprene boats hoisted on their shoulders. I’m surprised that more don’t collapse.
Someone is not “dead” for legal purposes until declared dead by a licensed health care practitioner, typically a physician.
“The legal time of death may be a long time after the death actually occurred. Many accident victims are obviously dead at the scene of the accident but are pronounced dead officially on arrival at a hospital because no physician was at the scene. When homicide is suspected or in large cities where the police handle large numbers of accidental deaths, a medical examiner may be on call to pronounce death at the scene and to determine the cause of death.
“The time of death may be important because of survivorship clauses in wills. For example, a man may leave all his property to his wife unless she does not survive him by at least 30 days, in which case the property goes to a hospital fund. The wife might have a will that leaves everything to her son. If they are in a common disaster that kills him outright but leaves her comatose for 30 days, the determination of the time of brain death may well decide whether the hospital or the son receives the property. In such a case, a physician who had an interest in the hospital might be considered to have a conflict of interest in determining death.”
SGLI and a penance from the VA. Soldiering aint a high pay glamour career like some think.
Pneumonia is one of more common illnesses during BUD training. Back of my mind I wonder if required vaccine could be a factor.
Bingo! And, of course, many do and then get up and shake it off.
The public often does not realize that SEAL and other special force candidates train to learn to operate for lengths of time at the limits of mental and physical exhaustion.
This candidate may well have succumbed to pneumonia (a somewhat common ailment in any military boot camp), but it appears this devastated mom is looking for chargeable negligence.
It could be her "support group" is flush with folks who would like to see a watering down of special force's capability and they are urging her on for their purposes.
Her politician: "As things stand now, the SEALs investigate themselves. This is absurd." He needs a clue.
I worked for a large city so this was not the way it worked. I can't say for sure what it is like other places. Our paramedics called into the hospital when people were dead, talked to the “physician” on duty, wrote down their name, they were declared dead and we were given a time to put in our reports.
It is probably a HIPPA violation to reveal autopsy results.
Let the family or their Lawyers do that revealing stuff.
Aside from that, becoming a Navy Seal is not exactly the same as just graduating Basic Training. This is a serious elite Corps. People often don’t make it. Dying during the process of training is problematic.
That is the truth. Like Seruzawa said, it is amazing more of them don’t collapse and die in that training.
But that training is what keeps them alive in combat, where they might otherwise die or the mission fail.
Wow! Made it all the way through Hell Week!
Undoubtedly he partook of the clot shot, certainly by coercion, if he had an ounce of common sense. But then again, he could have been a "woke" vax believer.
Never mind. If he had an ounce of common sense, he would have refused the vax.
thank you...
It is hard not to sympathize with a mother who had a son near the top of the physical pyramid who is alive one day and dead the next in non-combat.
That conditioning they subject those guys to is not for the high school football team, that is for sure.
I have a nephew that was in seal training and after about four weeks he decided there is more to life than this. He had passed all the mental and physical tests up to that point. He walked up rang the bell and said I’m out of here. He also said that after his DOR he was placed in a barracks with others who had DOR’ed awaiting re-assignment and that many were on suicide watch and most were in a state of depression. He was happy with his decision but most there were in a dark place.
Most of those who ring out, ring out in week four... Hell Week.
I watched a documentary about the Air Force Para Rescue School.
The Air Force has a very serious shortage of Airmen to fill that roll. After watching the documentary, it was easy to understand why. The Lead NCO was a total asshole who derived pleasure in being able to get guys to quit by with his pyschopathic treatment of the students and the failure of other NCO Cadre to stop him.
My guess is the deaths were related to adverse Covid-19 vaccine reactions.
The Navy personnel involved in his training and the medics/doctors responsible for monitoring their health are eventually going to have much to answer for.
I went through Airborne School in November ‘76. There were several classmates at Infantry Officers Basic, trying to convince me to do Ranger School. I declined, I knew my limitations.
SEAL training needs to be extremely physically and mentally demanding. It need not be dangerous; at least not so dangerous that three students die within such a short period of time because of non-training related health issues.
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