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How anti-tank missiles & Russian ‘mistakes’ worked to Ukraine’s advantage, and lessons for India
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Posted on 03/26/2022 7:41:07 AM PDT by FarCenter

New Delhi: Akin to the Berlin blockade of 1948-49, when the United States, United Kingdom, and France had to airlift essential supplies, food and fuel into western Berlin, another airlift is under way on the western borders of Ukraine — albeit for weapons supplies.

From the Amari Air Base in Estonia, cargo planes are being loaded with ammunition and weaponry to be delivered to Ukraine’s armed forces. The NATO has also airlifted tonnes of military equipment into Poland and Romania on the western borders of Ukraine from where the weapons are transported by road into Ukraine.

Since the beginning of the conflict, NATO and the US have reportedly sent in 17,000 anti-tank weapons — these have included Javelin missiles, short-range next-generation light anti-tank weapons (NLAW), and rocket-controlled grenades.

Lieutenant General Deependra Singh Hooda (Retd), former General Officer Commanding-in-Chief of Indian Army’s Northern Command, describes supplies on such scale as “unprecedented in short terms”.

While Ukraine’s troops have been credited for using missiles effectively and harsh climate conditions in northern Ukraine have stalled Russia’s march, larger themes amid the current stalemate need to be understood — what are the anti-tank missiles being used by Ukraine? What military strategies has Ukraine used to hold off Russia? What parts of Russia’s military strategy are questionable? What lessons can India draw for its military doctrine?

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India produces their own third-generation anti-tank missiles. I'd bet that production is being ramped up.

Turkey and other second tier countries are also producing them.

Using land armies to conquer and control territory is going to get way more difficult as the lessons of Ukraine are applied.

1 posted on 03/26/2022 7:41:07 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Are tanks becoming obsolete?


2 posted on 03/26/2022 7:43:01 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: packagingguy

Looks like it.


3 posted on 03/26/2022 7:45:05 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: packagingguy

It’s like any technical race. The balance of power may go back and forth. I’m sure there’s a lot of current work on countermeasures to anti-tank weapons.

But even back in WWII days Patton understood that tanks in urban or areas with concealment only survive with aggressive infantry patrolling and combat engineers for mine and IED removal.


4 posted on 03/26/2022 7:45:59 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: packagingguy

Tanks have been obsolete for a while. Except in deserts. They’ve been doing OK in deserts. But the new missiles are ending that. Just too easy to blow em up.


5 posted on 03/26/2022 7:46:31 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: FarCenter

India buys almost all of their military tech from Russia. They must be watching with concern as a smaller force of mostly infantry are turning T-90s into scrap and blowing Su-30s out of the sky.


6 posted on 03/26/2022 7:47:40 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: FarCenter

Have got to believe Russian arms dealers are having trouble selling their crap that fails quite often.
Buy American.


7 posted on 03/26/2022 7:48:28 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 )
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To: FarCenter

The new Axis of Evil: Russia, China and India


8 posted on 03/26/2022 7:49:57 AM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: throwthebumsout

India is not on any “axis of evil” like China and Russia is.

Pakistan is, however.


9 posted on 03/26/2022 7:51:59 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: FarCenter

Generals preparing to fight the previous war.


10 posted on 03/26/2022 7:52:04 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: packagingguy

I think so. What is interesting to me is that sending in thousands of anti-tank missiles to assist Ukraine is no longer considered an act of war. I suppose Russia would rightly be hesitant to declare war on the US and NATO regardless of our materiel aid.


11 posted on 03/26/2022 7:52:31 AM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: packagingguy

When the Marine Corps got rid of their Abrams MBTs I thought the Marines had made a big mistake.

It appears that, once again, the Marine Corps were ahead of the curve.


12 posted on 03/26/2022 7:53:23 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Renfrew

Well no matter how the Indian army assesses Russian tank performance there won’t be any new Russian tanks for for sale in the near future as the two factories producing Russian armor have shut down due to sanctions already of foreign supplies of such things as electronics, chips, and ball bearings....nothing runs without ball/roller bearings.


13 posted on 03/26/2022 7:53:48 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: refreshed

“Non participants” “sell” weapons into wars all the time. It’s never been considered an act of war.


14 posted on 03/26/2022 7:56:08 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: FarCenter

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15 posted on 03/26/2022 7:56:21 AM PDT by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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"What is interesting to me is that sending in thousands of anti-tank missiles to assist Ukraine is no longer considered an act of war."

We didn't declare war on China when they tossed 200,000 troops into Korea, and just about every scrap of hardware the North Vietnamese had came from China and/or Russia. Has the United State faced an adversary in the last 70 years that wasn't supplied by Russia or China?

16 posted on 03/26/2022 8:04:49 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: packagingguy

Nope. Using tanks stupidly should be obsolete, but seems like people are the problem, as they keep forgetting the lessons.

Tanks are only one part of a COMBINED ARMS approach, and isolated parts of that approach are always vulnerable is the other pieces aren’t providing their supporting roles.


17 posted on 03/26/2022 8:28:10 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: discostu

Anyone concerned that all these anti armor and aircraft missiles will be making their way to the terrorists and here to the USA?


18 posted on 03/26/2022 8:30:21 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: FarCenter

Thank you, nice to see from a different perspective.


19 posted on 03/26/2022 8:35:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Renfrew

So far the majority of the tanks destroyed are upgraded T-70 and T-80s with less than 20 older T-90s lost.
Tanks (297, of which destroyed: 126, damaged: 4, abandoned: 42, captured: 125)

Most of the jets lost (16) are SU30SMs, SU-34s, SU-25s

See here for documented loses (photos of each loss):
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html


20 posted on 03/26/2022 8:52:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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