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Interest Rates Still Cannot Rise: Here’s Why!
Zubu Brothers ^ | 1-12-2022 | Thad Bevesdorf via MacroHeathen.com

Posted on 01/12/2022 11:50:14 AM PST by blam

Today, I heard two local, small town radio DJs going on about rate hikes coming down the pike, and I thought wow here we are again with rate-hike-hysteria.

Eight years ago I posted an article, Interest Rates Cannot Rise, Here’s Why In that article I depicted my model, forecasting that interest rates would not and could not rise.

Now remember 2014 was the peak messaging period by the Fed and Wall Street gearing up for “rate normalization”. So to go on record stating that rate normalization was impossible, was a risky move. In fact, a friend, who is a friend of Tom Campbell, who at the time was the Dean of Berkeley’s Haas Business School, described a conversation the two of them had about my theory. In that conversation Tom had me pegged as a “half-baked-monkey”. And fair enough, because at the time “rate normalization” had become a household phrase. It was simply, a given.

But the model I built was simple and took debt service as a percent of GDP over history and found a fairly tight range, (2%, 5%). Debt service is a drag on economic output and is a function of interest rates and debt. Given the deteriorating independent parameters of debt and GDP, the 10 year rate (proxy for average rate on public debt) was rigidly constrained, at least if history was a guide. Here’s the model.

The blue line above represents the predictive model and it predicted that the 10 year could not possibly break 4%. It is now 8 years on and we know that the 10 year peaked in 2018, at around 3.25%. History proved smarter than the experts.

Fast forward to today and here we go again. I figured it was time to dust off the model and give it another look. The one issue I always had with the model in its original form was that it wasn’t dynamic enough. That is, it didn’t adjust for the deteriorating economic productivity, which reduces capacity for economic drag (i.e. interest rates). It means the model lacked a key gauge for drag or interest rate capacity.

Think of it in terms of towing a trailer. Imagine two trucks both hauling 6,000 lbs (i.e. drag) at 60 mph (i.e. output). From the outside they look the same. However, from inside the cockpits we see that one truck is running at 2,000 RPMs and the other is running at 7,000 RPMs. That is, one has additional drag capacity, whereas the other is at full capacity and burning much more fuel. The drag on both trucks is the same (6,000 lbs) and the output is the same (60 mph) but the truck at 2,000 RPMs has additional drag capacity meaning it could take on more weight while maintaining 60 mph output (it would simply increase RPMs). The truck at 7,000 RPMs is at max RPMs and could not take on additional drag without reducing output i.e. speed. Its drivetrain simply does not have the productivity for additional drag without giving up output.

In our economy interest rates are drag and GDP is output and those were covered in my original model. But I needed to improve the model to adjust for drag capacity i.e. drivetrain productivity. Here’s where I landed.

Money velocity is, in effect, the productivity of the economic drivetrain. It is a gauge of how efficiently or productively each dollar is used to generate output. It’s similar to RPMs in the above metaphor albeit in the inverse. The higher the velocity, the more capacity for additional drag given a fixed level of output. And so I updated my model by inserting M2 Velocity. Here’s what we get.

I take the the 10 year rate as a proxy for average rate on public debt multiplied by total public debt to give us our debt service. That’s our drag. But this needs to be adjusted by a factor of productivity to give us an “adjusted debt service”, and to do that I use M2 Velocity. Now we have our adjusted debt service over GDP.

What we find is an even tighter historic range than we had in the original model. The updated model range is (.9%, 2.74%) of GDP. That is an extremely tight range over a 60 year period with underlying parameters that have significant variance over time. Now we can solve algebraically for a max 10-year rate given various inputs of debt, GDP, and velocity.

Ok so what does all this mean?

In a nutshell, the 10-year rate cannot break 2.5%.

At 2.5% our adjusted debt service to GDP moves to 2.74%, matching the all time high in 1985. At that time, the economy had a very high capacity for drag and managed 13% rates due to a very productive drivetrain (low public debt and high velocity). Today we have the drivetrain of an ’83 Yugo with no drag capacity at all. In fact, today, in real terms, our economy is being pushed by negative drag. Even small adjustments to that negative drag will have enormous impacts on output.

In short, the Fed has no tools to add drag without a catastrophic reduction in output. And so inflation is a freight train hurling down an endless abyss with no brakes. Sir Hayek, was right.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: economy; gdp; inflation; interestrates; velocity
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To: blam
... Does easing of shortages equal reduced inflation?

I'll take the 5th., lol. Honestly, I think the inflation is going on even in items flowing freely through the market.

I don't claim to have a real grip, but then neither do most of the so-called experts ...

41 posted on 01/12/2022 12:56:48 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: DownInFlames; cuban leaf
Peter Schiff: The Real Reason Gold Hasn’t Gone Up And Why It Ultimately Will
42 posted on 01/12/2022 12:58:28 PM PST by blam
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To: Alberta's Child

Still, given what Joe’s doing (or should I say the puppeteer, Obama) I worry about persistent INFLATION right now.


43 posted on 01/12/2022 12:59:15 PM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy. I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Brian Griffin

That doesn’t make any sense. A mortgage lender lends money. It doesn’t buy an equity stake in an asset. When I borrowed money to start a business, was I supposed to share the profits with the bank?


44 posted on 01/12/2022 1:02:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: blam

Mortgage lenders could switch to the five-year adjustable rate mortgages which I believe are common in Britain.

In an adjustable rate mortgage environment, people won’t overpay say 50% for house simply to lock in a low interest rate.

A house worth $300,000 would sell for $300,000 instead of for $450,000 ($300,000 for the house + $150,000 for the Federal Reserve-backed, below market rate of the mortgage).

The FED could easily sell off 5-year ARMs for near the principal amounts. Its 3% 30-year fixed rate mortgages might only be merchantable at say a 25% discount.


45 posted on 01/12/2022 1:03:38 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: setter

“I have heard for 40 years the country is going into another depression and the stock market will collapse. Has not happened yet.”

I first heard the total-currency-collapse-only-gold-will-save-you story in 1965, 57 years ago. Adjusted for inflation, Gold made its last high in January, 1980.


46 posted on 01/12/2022 1:04:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Lending money at 3% can’t possibly be good for the lender at a time when inflation is being reported at 7% and is probably much higher than that.

That would explain why the mortgage on my recently purchased home was sold by my bank to Freddie Mac before I made a single payment on it.

47 posted on 01/12/2022 1:08:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Alberta's Child

The bank makes maybe 3% on its money overall and pays less than 1% for the use of my money.

Over time, most of the money lent by the bank will eventually be of its own capital.


48 posted on 01/12/2022 1:09:27 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Alberta's Child

“That doesn’t make any sense. A mortgage lender lends money. It doesn’t buy an equity stake in an asset. When I borrowed money to start a business, was I supposed to share the profits with the bank?”

You are correct. I’m a private mortgage lender. I am very happy when the properties I lend on go up in value, they are my only security for the mortgage! The last thing I want is flat or down values while I hold mortgages.

If I want equity, I buy real estate. If I want income secured by property, I loan on it.


49 posted on 01/12/2022 1:09:29 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: nascarnation

I meant inflation. Typing on a phone can be hit or miss when you can’t read the damned screen.


50 posted on 01/12/2022 1:15:01 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Brian Griffin

“The bank makes maybe 3% on its money overall and pays less than 1% for the use of my money.

Over time, most of the money lent by the bank will eventually be of its own capital.”

I’ve been part owner of 2 banks and I have no idea what you are trying to say. Banks don’t have any money of their “own”, they have your money and they can lend many times the amount you keep on deposit. The first bank I bought into was started by 45 investors putting up a total of $3.5mm to get it off the ground. We got stock in the bank at $10 a share for whatever amount we put up. Minimum investment was $25k.

Those shares we bought for $10 sold when the bank got gobbled up by a larger band 7 years later. The shares sold for 55 dollars a share.


51 posted on 01/12/2022 1:16:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: blam

The latest Official RPI [Retail Prices Index] figure i.e. annual retail prices inflation, here in the UK is 7.1%

But no one in officialdom is shouting about it.


52 posted on 01/12/2022 1:22:02 PM PST by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: blam

This strikes me as “Bill James” or “Moneyball” stuff. There’s definitely something to it, but there are plenty of dumb people who would ignore what the numbers are saying.


53 posted on 01/12/2022 1:23:00 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: All

Mortgage rates have already risen.


54 posted on 01/12/2022 1:27:22 PM PST by bennowens
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To: Mr Radical

“The latest Official RPI [Retail Prices Index] figure i.e. annual retail prices inflation, here in the UK is 7.1%”

Thanks, that’s interesting. Can you remember what it was when Covid first hit?


55 posted on 01/12/2022 1:28:32 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: cuban leaf

The difference is that Fedgov has pumped ungodly, record-breaking amounts of money into the economy. And much of it is in the hands of investors, from large companies to wealthy individuals. That money has to go somewhere. That may prevent real estate prices from declining much, if at all, in high-demand markets.

I just bought a house in Sarasota. We made offers on 6 houses before we nabbed one. Cash offers took the first 5. Interest rates aren’t as important to folks like that.

The house has likely appreciated 10% since late November when our offer was accepted.

The Fed is saying 3 hikes in 2022. Likely a quarter point each. 0.75% will barely dent this market in places like Sarasota. Prices won’t rise as fast, but they will continue to rise.

If the Fed can increase by 2% or so, and that flows down to fixed rate investments, then some of the money currently finding its way to real estate will be diverted elsewhere, a lot of non-cash buyers will be priced out, and real estate will cool.

But by the time the Fed gets there, in some markets, prices could rise another 20% or more.


56 posted on 01/12/2022 1:30:58 PM PST by sitetest (Professional patient. No longer mostly dead. Again. It's getting to be a habit.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“That doesn’t make any sense. A mortgage lender lends money. It doesn’t buy an equity stake in an asset. When I borrowed money to start a business, was I supposed to share the profits with the bank?”

There are reasons why financier J.P. Morgan was able to afford to buy a lot of art.


57 posted on 01/12/2022 1:31:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: bennowens

Mortgage rates change every morning and are good for the day. Mortgage rates are set by adding a markup to the current yield of the 10yr Treasury Bond.

The 10yr today is at 1.735%

Some years ago when I was more involved daily, the spread was about 1-4 to 1.5% + the 10yr yield. That would equate to about 3.2% for a 30yr mortgage. That spread may have changed but that’s probably still fairly close.


58 posted on 01/12/2022 1:34:14 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: blam

Read later.


59 posted on 01/12/2022 1:35:08 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Banks don’t have any money of their ‘own’.”

It’s called ‘capital’ and long ago banks would make it a point tell you how much they had.

They now will make the information known quietly.


60 posted on 01/12/2022 1:46:32 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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