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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Jim Robinson

Those 30,551 people are deaths that happened, for ANY reason, within a certain time frame of getting vaccinated. People die, all the time.. for LOTS of reasons. We have no way of knowing how many of these people WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAY, without getting vaccinated.

But, let’s just say...for argument’s sake, that EVERY ONE was directly caused by the vaccine. In the 29 European Union countries, there have been 817,566,123 vaccines given.

https://vaccinetracker.ecdc.europa.eu/public/extensions/COVID-19/vaccine-tracker.html#uptake-tab

If EVERY ONE of these deaths were caused by the vaccine (and, surely.. they were NOT), that would be a death rate of 0.0037%. That’s still LOWER than the death rate from Covid, without vaccination, BY FAR.

To the great people on FR:

I am giving you a warning. We are UNDER ATTACK on this site from people who continually post false or mis-leading information about Covid and vaccinations.

I have followed this disease and the vaccinations VERY closely for the past 21 months. I’ve read dozens, if not hundreds of scientific studies. I’ve read ALL the available data I could from here, and other sources about the vaccines.

I’m not a virologist. I don’t even play one on TV. But, I am a Chemical Engineer, and I’ve spent a lifetime studying and analyzing data.

The data is VERY CLEAR: For MOST Americans, these vaccines tremendously improve your chances of surviving Covid.

Fortunately, for MOST Americans, your chances of surviving Covid without vaccines is also VERY high. But, for many other, like people over 50, people who are obese, or people have other serious medical issues, these vaccines are potential LIFE SAVERS for you.

Anyone telling you otherwise is FLAT OUT LYING. You should ask yourselves: Why?

What do they have to gain from having MORE of us die?


15 posted on 11/20/2021 12:14:22 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

You are a vax hack, period.


18 posted on 11/20/2021 12:23:42 PM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. Doktor FauxiMengeleGates to aTerreHaute gurney now)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
re: "The data is VERY CLEAR: For MOST Americans, these vaccines tremendously improve your chances of surviving Covid."

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I GUESS it just doesn't work that way if you are in Africa, or certain provinces in India ... AmIright?

You ARE aware of the success they are having with actual treatments, NOT mRNA 'shots', in foreign countries, are you not?

20 posted on 11/20/2021 12:25:23 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

So, Tim, if I may call you Tim as some do, if these shots are so grand then why are all of the pharmaceutical companies insulated from any and all liability?

They are making untold billions of dollars in profits from the shots. If the adverse reactions are so rare, the cost of compensation would be a veritable drop in the overflowing cash bucket, wouldn’t it?


25 posted on 11/20/2021 12:30:13 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I have followed this disease and the vaccinations VERY closely for the past 21 months. I’ve read dozens, if not hundreds of scientific studies. I’ve read ALL the available data I could from here, and other sources about the vaccines.
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No you didn’t. Just reading data from pro shot government produced sources isn’t looking at all the data.


29 posted on 11/20/2021 12:36:22 PM PST by roving
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Can’t disagree but where you are wrong is the context and individual risk factors. The context is the virus has a 99.6 survival rate - even before the vax. We know who it negatively affects the worst - the obese, old and very sick. There’s no meaningful reason for healthy people and especially kids to take the vaccine.


33 posted on 11/20/2021 12:41:10 PM PST by Treeless Branch
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To: SomeCallMeTim
—You write, “The data is VERY CLEAR: For MOST Americans, these vaccines tremendously improve your chances of surviving Covid.”

Given that these mRNA preparations have been administered for a relatively short period of time, the assertion you make remains an assertion, heightened by the adverb of choice — “tremendously.” But any assertion can be made, and you do not cite sources for that “very clear” data. Given that these responses to data collated and displayed showing deaths far above the “normal” deaths associated with vaccines historically, your obligation is not to assert, but to cite data.

—You write, “Fortunately, for MOST Americans, your chances of surviving Covid without vaccines is also VERY high. But, for many other, like people over 50, people who are obese, or people have other serious medical issues, these vaccines are potential LIFE SAVERS for you.”

Global deaths as a percentage of population through 23 months — ( 5,105,270 / 7,906,949,863 ) x 100 = 0.0645 % (JHU Coronavirus Resource Center)

The data is very clear, as I read it. To me it says the deaths as a function of population worldwide is small, compared to the hysteria and governmental mandates and quasi-martial law we are seeing. If the number of deaths related to the administration of a “vaccine” now numbers in the tens of thousands in Europe, and perhaps similar numbers in the US,, then one can as easily write that the mRNA technology — experimental according to the FDA — kills in the tens of thousands. Prior to 2019, no vaccine with such lethality was continued, much less lauded. And prior to this “pandemic” whole nations were not locked down as “medically” recommended.

40 posted on 11/20/2021 12:57:17 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Basic math is simple. Real science open to proof and validation. Fear porn theater is a fine phrase/)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

—> The data is VERY CLEAR: For MOST Americans, these vaccines tremendously improve your chances of surviving Covid.

This needs a fix…

The data is VERY CLEAR: For MOST Americans, there is a >99.5% chance of surviving Covid.

The vaxx *may* help anyone in the <.5% survival category to avoid hospitalization or death.

Or it may not.

You can still get vaxxed and die, or live with the side effects.

And for every person “saved” from a Covid death because they were vaxxed, another +45 die of vaxx related causes.

And no one knows yet the long-term results regarding autoimmune diseases, cancer, or ADE.

By avoiding the vaxx, you have a *100 guarantee* of avoiding ALL vaxx side effects now and in the future.

… AND a ~ 99.5% chance of surviving Covid.

Darn good odds!


50 posted on 11/20/2021 1:39:15 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: SomeCallMeTim

No matter what your age the vax does far more than kill you immediately. It destroys your immune system which will never be repaired. Not to mention it does not stop the virus from spreading or keep you from getting it.


53 posted on 11/20/2021 1:49:20 PM PST by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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