Posted on 11/20/2021 11:29:38 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Hardly... I 100% oppose mandates.
I think MOST people, especially children, do NOT need to take them.
I am aware of the “success” in Africa. I think there are probably two reasons:
1) The DON’T TEST people at anywhere near the rate that we do, and
2) They take Ivermectin widely for Malaria protection. That very well might be protecting them.
Ad to that, Africa, in general, is much YOUNGER on average than Western countries.. and, people with serious medical issues are already dead.
It’s the OLD, and ILL who are most affected in the West. Africa doesn’t have as many of those.
Yet you apologize for them and mock all evidence of their harm/ lethality.
Especially that evidence which shows that these (not)vaccines are more lethal than all other vaccines for the last 20 years combined.
So, Tim, if I may call you Tim as some do, if these shots are so grand then why are all of the pharmaceutical companies insulated from any and all liability?
They are making untold billions of dollars in profits from the shots. If the adverse reactions are so rare, the cost of compensation would be a veritable drop in the overflowing cash bucket, wouldn’t it?
NOW do India ...
I don’t mock evidence, I try to put it in perspective.
Never, in history, have we vaccinated SO MANY people, so quickly. more than 7 BILLION doses have been given. There will ALWAYS be some who are negatively impacted.
You have to look at the BIGGER picture.
MORE people, FAR more.. are helped rather than hurt
That website could use some serious editing in their comments section.
I have followed this disease and the vaccinations VERY closely for the past 21 months. I’ve read dozens, if not hundreds of scientific studies. I’ve read ALL the available data I could from here, and other sources about the vaccines.
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No you didn’t. Just reading data from pro shot government produced sources isn’t looking at all the data.
Trump was convinced that it was so important to get the vaccines rolled out quickly that he set up rules to protect them from liability. Essentially, since it was GOVERNMENT that wanted the shots to go out, GOVERNMENT accepted the liability.
It was a judgement call. I also have concerns about the money going to these companies... and, the tremendous potential for abuse. But, we have LOTS of data now. From ALL OVER THE WORLD. Unless the whole world is lying, we know... If you're GOING to get Covid, your chances of surviving are MUCH better if you've been vaccinated.
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LOL I've read data and studies from EVERYWHERE. Many, if not most, from HERE!
Can’t disagree but where you are wrong is the context and individual risk factors. The context is the virus has a 99.6 survival rate - even before the vax. We know who it negatively affects the worst - the obese, old and very sick. There’s no meaningful reason for healthy people and especially kids to take the vaccine.
Many of the same reasons go for India, a place that I have visited MANY times.
They are YOUNGER, by far.
They have VERY ROBUST immune systems.. since most live in filth, daily.
They applied Ivermectin broadly, and effectively (from what I can tell).
Still, they were eventually hit pretty hard. There is NO ESCAPING this disease.
“The BIGGER picture.
MORE people, FAR more.. are helped rather than hurt”
HerrDoktor FauxiMengeleGates said the EXACT same thing a couple days ago.
I completely agree with you. Nearly everyone under the age of 50 need not worry about this stupid disease.
I'm 62, generally healthy but technically "obese". My chances of surviving COVID, if I got it, were likely close to 99%.
WITH The vax, that rate goes to >99.9%. When we're talking about DYING as the consequence, I thought taking the vax was worth the risk.
I have not recommended it for my 31 and 32 year old, VERY healthy sons.. and, I am adamantly OPPOSED to giving it to my 2 and 4 year old grand daughters.
Look.. you can believe what you want.
I’m definitely NOT a “vax shill”. I think most people don’t need it.
I’m simply calling “BS” on a bunch of crap I see on this site that is trying to SCARE people with fake data.
The OVERALL rate varies quite a lot from country to country. But, I don't know ANY that has a 99.6% survival rate. Most are somewhere between 96% and 99%.
The chances of dying go UP, very quickly for people over the age of 65.
If you were 70, and have a few issues... you'd be gambling your life on a 10-15 chance. I like gambling. But, NO THANKS on that one.
And of course the CDC does not know how many of us are self immune to the virus like we had a mild case of it.
Given that these mRNA preparations have been administered for a relatively short period of time, the assertion you make remains an assertion, heightened by the adverb of choice — “tremendously.” But any assertion can be made, and you do not cite sources for that “very clear” data. Given that these responses to data collated and displayed showing deaths far above the “normal” deaths associated with vaccines historically, your obligation is not to assert, but to cite data.
—You write, “Fortunately, for MOST Americans, your chances of surviving Covid without vaccines is also VERY high. But, for many other, like people over 50, people who are obese, or people have other serious medical issues, these vaccines are potential LIFE SAVERS for you.”
Global deaths as a percentage of population through 23 months — ( 5,105,270 / 7,906,949,863 ) x 100 = 0.0645 % (JHU Coronavirus Resource Center)
The data is very clear, as I read it. To me it says the deaths as a function of population worldwide is small, compared to the hysteria and governmental mandates and quasi-martial law we are seeing. If the number of deaths related to the administration of a “vaccine” now numbers in the tens of thousands in Europe, and perhaps similar numbers in the US,, then one can as easily write that the mRNA technology — experimental according to the FDA — kills in the tens of thousands. Prior to 2019, no vaccine with such lethality was continued, much less lauded. And prior to this “pandemic” whole nations were not locked down as “medically” recommended.
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