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My unvaxxed 82 year old friend (Dave) caught the virus. (V A N I T Y)
11/08/2021

Posted on 11/08/2021 8:11:11 PM PST by Az Joe

This is an open letter I wrote to our mutual circle of friends and acquaintances after hearing a few things a didn't like. (My friend was in the hospital 12 days and is now further recuperating at home cared for by his daughter). I got mad at what I had been hearing from certain corners of our group.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 82; unvaxxed; virus
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MY OPEN LETTER

Our FRIEND, Dave...has survived and is surviving his ordeal with the virus. At his age health can be fragile anyway just under normal circumstances. Many people are felled in their 80s just walking around and going about their daily lives without going through what he just went through and is still going through. That shows how strong his physical and mental constitution is and how good the man's genes are. I can't wait to welcome him back to our everyday lineup.

Now, for me, personally, I am vaxxed 3 times. As I've said to many of you, I have nothing to lose with my current health conditions. (Fat, diabetis, hypertension, 67) I believe in vaxes, although this one IS, undoubtedly, the most risky of all. I love science. I love book learnin'.

I love freedom more.

Dave chose not to be vaxxed. That was HIS RIGHT as a free man. I respect his choice. There is no one walking planet Earth who can definitively and scientifically say that if he had been vaxxed none of what is happening to him would not have happened to him. It doesn't matter anyway! Statistics can be cited, studies can be pointed referenced but, our friend,(remember that) is not a statistic, he is not a weapon to be used to bolster one's point of view or used to score "political" points or used to forward a personal social or political agenda.

Now if he had been vaxxed the chances of him having a much less severe case of the virus MAY have been enhanced.

NO ONE CAN SAY THAT WITH ABSOLUTELY CERTAINTY IN HIS CASE....!! Not Fauci, not Biden, not Harris, not you, not me....NO ONE! Would the odds be better if he had been vaxxed? Yes, I believe so. But our friend is not a set of odds. He is a real, live, thinking human being, a person,... and a friend of ours. He had every right to choose his path on this without being questioned or denigrated by anyone else for choosing it!

I find it warped and perverted that those who are most strident, most adamant about people taking the vax seem to enjoy it the most and with glee when people who do not get vaxxed are fired, kicked out of school, banished from the public square,...and they seem especially happy when that person falls ill to the virus. All one has to do is surf the many political forums online to see this sick phenomena. The real pandemic is the darkness and perversion in the hearts and souls of these types of people. There is only ONE side of the political spectrum that does this. We ALL know it! THAT is a stone cold FACT! They make me sick to my stomach and I am repulsed by people like that.

Our friend Dave served his nation in uniform for over 30 years. From all accounts he has been an honorable man with his family and has done his duty as a man, father and grandfather. He doesn't owe anyone ANY explanation about his personal health choices. He doesn't owe anyone ANY explanation about ANYTHING!

Long live our friend!!

Joe

P.S. if what I have said and offered in this rant does not apply to you then you may, and will, simply ignore it of course. You know better than anyone if it does.

1 posted on 11/08/2021 8:11:11 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

I send a Prayer up for your friend Dave.


2 posted on 11/08/2021 8:15:04 PM PST by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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To: Az Joe

Bump.


3 posted on 11/08/2021 8:16:16 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Az Joe

I pray for the best for your friend. I’m max-vaxxwd, my wife is max-vaxxwd, but that doesn’t mean your friend deserves to die for choosing differently. I hope that he recovers, and lives a full life.


4 posted on 11/08/2021 8:27:48 PM PST by untenured
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To: Az Joe

This may sound trite, but science supports folk medicine: Feed a Cold but Starve a Fever (virus). According to Dr. Henry Beiler, if a person eat starch, protein and sugar once a common cold progresses to a fever, it will create a virus and viral pneumonia. This is because the liver is infected and cannot handle protein, carbohydrate and sugar. Fasting, water with lemon, maybe some fat, walking where possible, zine, lysine and quercetin are better early interventions.


5 posted on 11/08/2021 8:28:09 PM PST by WLusvardi
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To: Az Joe

For one, a true and valued friend, he deserves freedom because he chose freedom. God bless you for standing by his side. I pray for a quick and speedy recovery for your friend. As well, I also pray Blessings to you for having a caring heart. God Bless, may your days be long and fruitful.


6 posted on 11/08/2021 8:29:45 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: CJ Wolf

If Dave’s MD won’t prescribe HZA or Ivermectin; I would humbly suggest doing what my wife and I do. Horse Pastr, the 1.68% Ivermectin and the Apple flavored is best. If it has any other active ingredients, you don’t want it

The disease is by weight. If he is just diagnosed take 1 dose a day for not more than 5 days. Zinc lozenges and Vitamins C and D. Quecertin will allow your body to absorb more zinc than normal.

This is what has worked in Japan, Africa, Mexico, India and elsewhere. The best would be to get the Rx from your MD. But early treatment is always best

I not an MD. Thiis is what my wife and I have done. We take a single dose of ivermectin monthly as a prophylactic to prevent infection. There are a lot of online resources.


7 posted on 11/08/2021 8:30:28 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Az Joe

This isn’t a rant but your friend Dave having survived even at his age is very likely to be better protected by natural antibodies now than you being 3X vaxxed. CDC isn’t really arguing that point; they just don’t mention it..


8 posted on 11/08/2021 8:35:55 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: patriot torch

Thx!


9 posted on 11/08/2021 8:39:13 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: Gaffer

True


10 posted on 11/08/2021 8:39:37 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: untenured

Thx


11 posted on 11/08/2021 8:40:15 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: Gaffer

And if he does get the bug again, he will probably be less sick than someone who is vaxxed & sick with Covid.


12 posted on 11/08/2021 8:40:21 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Hodar

Very well said, we have saved a number of lives using this dosage.


13 posted on 11/08/2021 8:47:37 PM PST by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: Az Joe
Everyone has the right to decide what kind of medical treatment they should have. You are not a statistic, you are a person and what works for one may not work for another.

I support the right to try and I support the right to refuse certain medical treatments as you wish.

Have subjected you to my rant on the matter I would like to add that I am glad your friend is doing better.

Friends are precious.

14 posted on 11/08/2021 8:47:55 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: Az Joe
I would like to know what percentage of the folks who end up in the hospital are simply those who experience real difficulty breathing for the first time in their lives, and then start to panic?

As a veteran of severe childhood asthma, and also a life long runner and a one time skin diver, I am completely familiar with oxygen debt and controlling the panic.

I am wondering how many people ended up on ventilators and died just because they were frightened, and the attending physicians thought they had to "do something?"

My understanding of the ventilator decision is that doctors severely frighten patients by claiming that their blood oxygen level has reached a level where brain damage is possible.

If you have no experience with oxygen debt, I will guess it is very easy to get stampeded onto a ventilator by an over zealous physician.

For me - if I am conscious and speaking rationally, there is ZERO risk of brain damage, no matter what the blood gas test says.

15 posted on 11/08/2021 8:49:13 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Az Joe

My conclusion is, Covid is real, but its threat has been greatly exaggerated, used and abused for a fascist power grab.

Your 82 old friend is in the worst hit group, but even then, his chances of dying from Covid are about 2 in 100.

If he recovers, he will be protected naturally until probably the end of his life.


16 posted on 11/08/2021 8:53:25 PM PST by PGR88
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To: bray

My humble thanks

I hope this friendly advice finds its way to others who seek alternatives

My local farm and ranch store sells the tubes for $10/tube for the paste. Each tube treats 1.250 lbs. So treat your favorite “horse” to this. My horses like it with Reese’s mini peanut butter cups. I cut one in half and scoop the peanut butter out of one side, add the paste and chew it up with a Dt Coke chaser. Then we feed the horsies the other half of the peanut butter cup; because those need never go to waste


17 posted on 11/08/2021 8:54:48 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Az Joe

👍


18 posted on 11/08/2021 8:59:20 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Az Joe

Prayers for Dave. God bless him 🙏


19 posted on 11/08/2021 9:00:21 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thx


20 posted on 11/08/2021 9:00:35 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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