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The Durham Indictment Is in and It's Big After All: Yes, It's Tied to the Hillary Campaign!
Red State ^ | 09/16/2021 | Nick Arama

Posted on 09/16/2021 8:29:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

We reported yesterday word that an indictment might be coming in the Durham investigation and that it would be a person of some significance — Michael Sussman, who worked for Perkins Coie, the firm that represented both Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.

Now the indictment is in from the federal grand jury. The charge is that he lied to the FBI, telling them that he wasn’t representing the Clinton 2016 campaign when he was spreading the false stories about the Trump Organization and a Russian bank. In other words, the very charge is saying that, yes, he indeed was working for the Clinton campaign in spreading these false stories — saying officially (although we’ve obviously always known it) that the Clinton campaign was behind it. So that declaration is in itself is big.

Durham needed to get the indictment in under the wire because there was a five-year statute of limitations on the charge of making a false statement to federal authorities that was about to run out within three days.

From The NY Post:

According to the indictment, Sussmann met with then-FBI General Counsel James A. Baker on that date to pass along allegations that servers at the Trump Organization were connected to servers at Alfa-Bank, a Moscow-based financial institution. During their conversation, Sussmann allegedly told Baker that “he was not acting on behalf of any client, which led the FBI General Counsel to understand that Sussmann was conveying the allegations as a good citizen and not as an advocate”.

“In fact….” the indictment states, “in assembling and conveying these allegations, Sussmann acted on behalf of specific clients,” including the Clinton campaign. [….]

The indictment also claims that Sussmann had “coordinated and communicated” about the Alfa-Bank allegations “during telephone calls and meetings” with an unidentified tech executive who had passed him the purported server data in the summer of 2016 and the Clinton campaign’s general counsel, Marc Elias — then a Perkins Coie partner.

Those calls and meetings, the document alleges, were billed by Sussmann to the Clinton campaign.

That sounds like dead-to-rights to me. And they finally drop the name of Marc Elias. Can we expect to hear more there, as well?

You had stuff like this coming full circle — Hillary Clinton then using the information that she allegedly paid for against Donald Trump, pushing the myth of Russia collusion.

Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.


pic.twitter.com/8f8n9xMzUU

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) November 1, 2016

Sussman then allegedly pressed reporters to write about the Alfa Bank allegation and accused a NY Times reporter of not thoroughly investigating Trump.

The FBI found the Alfa Bank claim was nonsense — that the server in question “was not owned or operated by the Trump Organization, but, rather, had been administered by a mass marketing email company that sent advertisements for Trump’s hotels and hundreds of other clients.”

Then there was this fascinating bit of information in the indictment — that they may have accessed “non-public information” about Trump and coordinated with the Clinton campaign. The “tech executive” was, according to the indictment, promised a job in the Clinton administration that never came to be.

Tik tok:


https://t.co/30EYk3Vw6C

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) September 16, 2021

As was clear from the beginning, the wrong was all on the side of the folks trying to push the Russia collusion hoax. They allegedly did what they were trying to accuse Trump of doing.

What will be interesting is to see what else, if anything, they might have coming, if they are picking off a fish this close to the Clintons.

Jonathan Turley has a great breakdown of some of the connect-the-dot highlights that have already been reported of late:

Even for those of us who followed and wrote on the Russia investigation for five years, much has been revealed in the last year. It was disclosed in October, for instance, that President Obama was briefed by his CIA director, John Brennan, on July 28, 2016, on intelligence suggesting that Hillary Clinton planned to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” [….]

Throughout the campaign, the Clinton campaign denied any involvement in the creation of the so-called Steele dossier’s allegations of Trump-Russia connections. However, weeks after the election, journalists discovered that the Clinton campaign hid payments for the dossier made to a research firm, Fusion GPS, as “legal fees” among the $5.6 million paid to the campaign’s law firm. New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said at the time that Clinton lawyer Marc Elias, with the law firm of Perkins Coie, denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said, Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”

It was not just reporters who asked the Clinton campaign about its role in the Steele dossier. John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, was questioned by Congress and denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Sitting beside him was Elias, who reportedly said nothing to correct the misleading information given to Congress.

So there’s a lot there that they could yet pursue with a lot of names in the mix. But this indictment today, I have to admit, I had given up hope that we might ever see something that consequential that really tied the Clinton people into the collusion. So I have to admit to being pleasantly surprised and hopeful that more may yet be in the offing.



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2020election; again; alfabank; arkancide; clintoncrimefamily; collusion; democrats; durham; election2016; election2020; elias; futurearkancide; hillaryclinton; indictment; liars; marcelias; perkinscoie; perkinscouie; russia; sussman
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1 posted on 09/16/2021 8:29:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And if this is true, Sussman has a choice to make:

Cooperate and beg for protection.

Take the ride and pray he wins.

He’s a dead man walking.

All depends on how strong a case he has and what he’s looking at punishment wise. If he falls on the sword with the promise that his family will be taken care of, no harm to any of them, and he’ll be set for life when he gets out, he just might survive.

Anything short of that and he’s toast.

But again, all depends on the case, just how guilty he really is and who tries it.


2 posted on 09/16/2021 8:34:17 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

Sussmann did not kill himself.


3 posted on 09/16/2021 8:35:09 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Those asswipes did Russia Russia for three long years. Trying to tie up trump

I hate them for that. The lying sacks of shiite in the media and their politicians


4 posted on 09/16/2021 8:36:30 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! I could )
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To: qaz123

Nothing will percolate. He will take the fall, die prison by some unfortunate incident and the scum will continue.


5 posted on 09/16/2021 8:41:19 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: rfp1234

“Democrat Party hates for people to make their own decisions.”

yet.


6 posted on 09/16/2021 8:42:10 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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To: qaz123
I wish I had your optimism.

Nothing will become of this.

Sussman will either a) get away with it, or b) get suicided.

He will choose a).

The Clinton machine will protect him as long as he protects them. Otherwise, he's fried.

A person with a conscience does not survive long around the Clintons.

7 posted on 09/16/2021 8:43:19 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: All

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My opinion: no FBi, No DoJ, No family members used by the aforementioned groups.

The Statute of Limitations didn’t matter a bill of beans with the Trump Associates they were trying to get because they simply asked Judges to suspend the Statute of Limitations, and they did.

Marc Elias wouldn’t of had like 15 Partners follow him if he was about to be indicted. Why would they do that?

The Protected Pact people were Comey, McCabe, Page. Strzok, Halper, Ohr, Somma, and so on. The peeps that made it happen.

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8 posted on 09/16/2021 8:46:23 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: Jess Kitting

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What if he gets Clinesmith’s deal - hours of community service, and he’s allowed to practice Law.

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9 posted on 09/16/2021 8:47:52 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: Jess Kitting; Manly Warrior

I’m not disagreeing with either of you. But it all depends on the case. Indictments are easy to get. There’s no one challenging what is said by the prosecution.

And just because there’s an indictment, it doesn’t mean that it’ll make it past the first hearing.

I’m betting that his defense if paid for, so he doesn’t have to worry about 2-4 lawyers, plus staff, charging anywhere from $500-1000 an hour, or more.

He’ll have a corrupt DC judge and a jury that likes to let Democrats and their operatives walk away, innocent of all charges. So there’s that.

But, one would think they haven’t seen the case file yet. If it’s strong, they know it, they’ll take a plea. Then it depends on his sentence and where he serves it. If he goes minimum security, who knows. Maximum security, no telling what he’ll do.

But, I do agree that there’s a very good chance he ends up in Ft Marcy Park. Not one of these folks thought they’d ever get caught or held accountable for what they did. So, it’s easy to talk about it, at happy hour. Different when you’re sitting at the defense table.


10 posted on 09/16/2021 8:50:16 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

A complete nothing burger. Nothing to see here. The Rats are above the law.


11 posted on 09/16/2021 9:00:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: SeekAndFind

what is needed is public pressure, not defeatism.


12 posted on 09/16/2021 9:11:02 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: SeekAndFind

When that alleged dossier was brought out I viewed it as someones idea of a satirical piece to be submitted to UK’s Daily Mail or other lefty publication which was rejected probably because of this.
Frankly Trump strikes me as a guy who knows the value of a buck and wouldn’t waste it on a bunch of hookers urinating on a bed just to get even .


13 posted on 09/16/2021 9:13:59 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet AKA Lee J Keslin posting in the hopes comments get passed around )
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To: AnthonySoprano
Marc Elias wouldn’t of had ...

Kind of hard to take you seriously.

14 posted on 09/16/2021 9:29:58 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: AnthonySoprano

That’s exactly what I’m expecting. The “trial” will take years, and when he’s forgotten, the case will quietly be dropped.


15 posted on 09/16/2021 9:41:26 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: SeekAndFind

Durham could read Lee Smith’s 2 books...the coup against Trump is outlined rigorously.


16 posted on 09/16/2021 9:52:08 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: FrankRizzo890

At most he does 6 months in a Club Fed.


17 posted on 09/16/2021 11:07:47 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, with the whole Russiagate scam, all they come up with is a dinky process crime?


18 posted on 09/17/2021 12:29:18 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: qaz123

Important statement: “ Durham needed to get the indictment in under the wire because there was a five-year statute of limitations on the charge of making a false statement to federal authorities that was about to run out within three days.”

How many people are going to escape prosecution because Durham slow walked the investigation? This way, Durham becomes the winner. He lets practically all of the Democrats walk, but he can say, “I got an indictment.” In the meantime, he and his staff have made lots of money over the past few years.


19 posted on 09/17/2021 3:24:37 AM PDT by djpg
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw the importance of this yesterday and was shocked to see many anchors on Newsmax make light of it.

I thought they were smarter.

Starting with the blonde on American Agenda, then Greg Kelly, then Stinchfield...that’s when I turned them off.

I hope they see that this is the beginning and patience for just a little while longer might help.


20 posted on 09/17/2021 3:45:41 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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