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Delta Variant Death Rate Among Vaccinated Over 5 Times HIGHER Than the Unvaccinated in England
NoQ Report ^ | 3 September 2021 | Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

A new report with detailed data from Public Health England provides some startling numbers.

For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.

In the first group of vaccinated people there were a total of 402 deaths, and in the second much larger group of unvaccinated people there were 253 deaths. To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.

That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated. That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.

In other words, unvaccinated people who got infected were enormously safer from death. How can we explain this huge difference in terms of medical science? It should also be noted that it was determined that the measured viral load in both groups was the same.

So, why are vaccinated people dying more frequently than the unvaccinated. Here are some plausible explanations.

First, there is something very dangerous and unsafe in the COVID vaccines associated with spike proteins that are causing people to die at a higher rate. For example, as discussed elsewhere, all current vaccines have been associated with serious blood problems, notably both large and microscopic blood clots. Many people have died from brain bleeds and strokes, for example.

There are also many, many other types of adverse side effects causing a host of medical problems. Two famous virologists warned against using the current vaccines because they are fundamentally unsafe and could be killing people. They loudly proclaimed that the mass vaccination program should be halted. Instead, they advocated use of treatments using generic medicines like ivermectin, as detailed in Pandemic Blunder.

Second, it is reasonable to believe that most unvaccinated people have acquired natural immunity from some prior COVID infection. And that natural immunity is far more protective than the artificial or vaccine immunity obtained from jabs. Yet the US, like many other countries, does not give credit for natural immunity on a par with vaccine immunity when it comes to COVID passports and mandates. Very few nations do the right thing by honestly following the science.

Third, vaccinated people are susceptible to breakthrough infections, which means that they are not protected against infection after they have been originally infected. Phony and dangerous COVID vaccines do not destroy the virus, nor prevent transmitting it to others.

Conclusion The new data from England involving very large numbers of people should be headline news. But the biased and dishonest big media suppress this kind of critical data. Why? Clearly, if vaccinated people die at a much higher rate than unvaccinated people, then why should people be enthusiastic about being vaccinated? They should not. This is especially true for the millions of people who have natural immunity.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
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To: buwaya

“ But Israel also has a very low death rate from covid.”

………

Man jumps from 43rd floor window.

As he passes the 30th floor he says, “So far it’s going great!”


101 posted on 09/04/2021 7:53:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: wardaddy

If you can hold out for the Novavax...good health, low exposure...do so.

If not find the J&J.


102 posted on 09/04/2021 7:54:33 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: freespirit2012

“Either way you look at it, the vaccine doesn’t seem to be helping much.”

See post #50 in this thread.


103 posted on 09/04/2021 8:02:25 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Travis McGee

Anything produced on video alone is suspect, at BEST.


104 posted on 09/04/2021 8:03:30 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

If a disease kills a trivial number, then it does not require society-wide lockdowns and other wasteful policies, does it? We do not shut down countries because of the risk of dying of lupus or hepatitis, do we?


105 posted on 09/04/2021 8:05:31 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: enumerated

“When is some smart person going to sort through all these conflicting stories, put them on equal terms, and weight them according to statistical relevance?”

WHO would THAT person be?

Why would you believe THEM?

Fact #1:
You are being lied to.

Fact #2:
You can’t trust ANYONE.

Fact #3:
YOU have to decide for YOURSELF what to believe and what to disbelieve. The more informed you are, the more accurate your position will be. Maybe 51/49 is the best you will get.


106 posted on 09/04/2021 8:08:31 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: faucetman

“Why would ANYONE get the jab? WHY?”

To reduce the risk of dying of Covid of course.
Compare British death rate of Covid waves pre-jab vs post jab.
Note that the actually vulnerable are, by now, nearly 100% jabbed.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Peak deaths from Covid in the current wave were on Sept 2, 178; compare to the peak of the last wave, Jan 20, 1,824. That’s over 10:1

Reduction of chances of dying by 90% overall is pretty darn worthwhile. Just my IMHO.


107 posted on 09/04/2021 8:14:16 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: ETCM
...670 of the 742...

The numbers don't even add up. The <50 count is 71 and the ≥50 count is 670. Total should be 741

108 posted on 09/04/2021 8:18:28 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: faucetman

“Fact #2: You can’t trust ANYONE.”

Not necessarily.

Let’s take the stolen election for example.

You have lot’s of people insisting it wasn’t stolen.
You have lot’s of people insisting it was stolen.

You have people on each side cherry picking and offering anecdotal support for their position.

But, along come these whistleblowers, witnesses, statisticians, cyber experts, patriots and lawyers - testifying under oath exactly where and how it was done, and pulling together the evidence and the receipts.

Do I know who to believe? Damn straight I do. I believe the ones saying it was stolen.

Now we need the same caliber people to cone forward and tell the truth about covid and the vaccines.


109 posted on 09/04/2021 9:58:13 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: Fractal Trader

this is silly.... as most of the unvaxxed may be healthy and young, while many of the vaxxed are old and sickly.


110 posted on 09/04/2021 11:46:43 AM PDT by Katya (lacking in the feelings department, )
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To: gitmo

Sorry....just saw your reply....

RSVs are annual respiratory viruses that kids get.

https://www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/topic/default?id=respiratory-syncytial-virus-rsv-in-children-90-P02409&sid=

Hubby and I were JUST talking about this, day before yesterday.

I wonder where the RSVs went, this year?

Kind of like....where did the flu go, last year?

Here’s a scare story.....

https://www.verywellhealth.com/rsv-and-covid-19-what-is-the-difference-5199226


111 posted on 09/04/2021 6:00:27 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Toad of Toad Hall

i have prepared doc tax returns...mid to high six figures


112 posted on 09/04/2021 6:19:33 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Fractal Trader

“the vaxxed population had significantly higher mortality.”

I don’t find a % mortality rate in the charts so I’m not sure where you are seeing that.


113 posted on 09/04/2021 6:50:57 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Videos aren’t studies. When you find a PubMed paper I’ll be interested.


114 posted on 09/04/2021 6:52:56 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Pelham

When you find a PubMed paper I’ll be interested

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I doubt it. There has been many published studies and reports over the last several months that have been posted here at Free Republic. By credible doctors, scientists and medical schools.

If you haven’t seen them, then Freep more. I suspect you have seen them and just like this video, you don’t believe them.


115 posted on 09/04/2021 7:15:27 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“There has been many published studies and reports over the last several months that have been posted here at Free Republic. “

Then it should be real easy for you to find the studies and provide links. Let’s see those links.


116 posted on 09/04/2021 8:00:07 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Pelham

https://freerepublic.com/tag/*/index

I know you’re not lazy. Do your own research.


117 posted on 09/04/2021 8:19:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: TECTopcat; ransomnote

Hey, there, dear BranchCovidian,

At the bottom of page 35 they have a chart of mean Ct values over time for each of the following groups:

xNotes
This Figure shows the Ct values (higher count for lower viral loads) in people who catch the Alpha variant
(referred to as SGTF, shown in red, yellow and brown), or Delta variant (Delta compatible referred to as
All3P or S+, shown in green, blue and purple). For each variant, a comparison is shown between Ct values
of unvaccinated cases, cases with 1 vaccination dose more than 21 days ago, and cases with 2 vaccination
doses more than 21 days ago. Since May 2021 the average Ct values for Delta cases overall in the NHSTT
case data (using the S gene as a proxy), have decreased (meaning average viral loads have become
higher), which is a known pattern in an increasing epidemic (and was previously seen when the original ‘wild
type’ virus was no longer prevalent).

So for Ct testing they are able to distinguish between (just jabbed) and (jabbed awhile ago).

How come they don’t make any such distinction in the death counts?

I smell stuff getting swept under the rug, like these public health liars always do (”two weeks to slow the spread”).


118 posted on 09/11/2021 9:26:58 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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