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Hello. I am looking to purchase a new CRV-EX, modern steel metallic (dark gray) finish, gray (preferred) or black interior, and no options. I am very familiar with the specs and features of this model, so you don't need to do a sales pitch for me, which would waste both your time and mine. (Though I will want to do a test drive at the dealer I choose.)

I want a fair deal. If you send me your out-the-door pricing, a copy of the Monroney label, and the invoice you paid from the factory, that will go a long way toward helping me choose the best dealer.

Honda's website has the MSRP for the CRV-EX at 27,860 -- your dealership's website has the MSRP listed at ____.

I would like to know your best price -- based on DEALER price plus your markup, not MSRP -- for a 2021 CRV-EX in the standard factory configuration (i.e., I'm not looking for any options). I would like your best TOTAL price, including all fees and taxes, and broken down by line items. Your offer will be competing against a number of other Honda dealers, so please give me your best honest offer.

I am looking to make a purchase toward the end of May and plan to bring my own financing. If there are any end-of-month or Memorial Day specials/incentives, you can inform me of those too.

If Honda offers any corporate incentives, please note that I am a college graduate and a military veteran.

I really do look forward to a reply from you with your best firm offer for the vehicle I've described above. Thank you

1 posted on 05/06/2021 6:05:29 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe
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Whatever you do, don’t tell them you’re paying cash.

They don’t make any money on the vehicle.

The financing is where they gig you.


2 posted on 05/06/2021 6:12:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
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Right now is a bad time to be shopping for a vehicle... shortage of computer chips causing supply to be low and demand to be high.

If you are a Costco member, go through their car buying website and see what you get.


3 posted on 05/06/2021 6:15:02 PM PDT by adamjeeps
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your problem is that you do not know how much the car should cost.

there are a bunch of websites that will tell you what people purchased the exact car have paid.

since it will be a bell curve pick a price in the lowest 25% as a fair price.

Then send a letter to the dealers with what you will pay them for the car.

also if you let them put together financing they may give you a better deal because they get kickbacks. (you can pay off the loan any time with your own financing)


4 posted on 05/06/2021 6:16:32 PM PDT by algore
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Buy a Toyota/Lexus. My niece owns what you’re purchasing a couple of years older. Already had a recall and it’s been in the shop several times for problems and she’s had it. Trading in on a Toyota minivan instead.


5 posted on 05/06/2021 6:20:53 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. )
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I assume by your name that you live in New Jersey, the worse market for buying a car right now. New cars, used cars, junk up heaps of crap are all in high demand right now. NJ is worse because of the high population density. Right now, you will be lucky if you can that thing for $500 below sticker.

Cause if you don’t buy, the next guy that day will.

NJ car dealers don’t even have try to sell, they are pretty much ready to write you up and get you on your way.

I was at a toyota dealer on a main highway last week, the place was nearly empty, giant lot and hardly any cars on it. I asked the sales guy if they were going out of business, he said, no, we sell them as fast as they come in, and that is if they come in. They are having problems getting new cars, used cars, anything to sell.

At this point, just be lucky you have an opportunity to buy a new CRV....


6 posted on 05/06/2021 6:24:10 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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I'm afraid the tone of your email will be a put-off. I suspect none of the dealers will reply.

Put yourself in their shoes: how do you think they'll react to your email? With enthusiasm to give a prospect the best experience ever, with a hope of return business?

Or "I'll let someone else deal with this guy"?

Honest people are trying to make a living. Companies love customers. Your email creates an adversarial situation off the bat.

Honey, not vinegar, always wins.

7 posted on 05/06/2021 6:24:13 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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Unless you special order, you are very unlikely to get the vehicle equipped the way you want. Dealers pre-order and equip vehicles with option packages that aid in the bottom line. They consider it to be their job to convince you what they want is what you want


9 posted on 05/06/2021 6:26:45 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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Buy one a year or 2 old instead.


10 posted on 05/06/2021 6:28:09 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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Dunno but I’ve really enjoyed my Hondas since the gas crunches in the ‘80’s. Every one has gone well over 200,000 miles. I highly recommend them. Great cars. I did have a 20 year career in automotive and am familiar with 6-sigma. Korean (South) were also very high sigma in QUALITY. German technology also terrific.


11 posted on 05/06/2021 6:29:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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Unless you come in with George Washington’s talking head in a jar, nothing is going to impress a car salesman these days.


14 posted on 05/06/2021 6:34:23 PM PDT by Gman
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In your situation, a CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) vehicle would be your best bet. Like another poster said, finding a stripped-down bare-bones vehicle will be a major issue. Rarely do dealers order such cars for their lots.
You can search Autotrader for low mileage CPO’s in your area and use their Good Deal and Great Deal selections to see what’s available. You can also adjust the search area to expand beyond your city/town to see what’s available.


16 posted on 05/06/2021 6:36:45 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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I wouldn’t do that if I were you. Five out of 10 dealers will not respond at all. The other dealers will have some salesman call you and tell you to come in. You’re not going to get the best price via email.

Cargurus. This is where you want to go find the Honda that you’re looking for. All the dealers have their Inventory online and car gurus mines that data and puts it on this website.


17 posted on 05/06/2021 6:37:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Actual FR Quote: “I ain’t getting no Covid Vaccine. I’d rather get Covid and DIE before I get a jab.)
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I love all my options.

If you’re just looking for a no options transportation vehicle, go used. They have terrible resale value.


19 posted on 05/06/2021 6:38:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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Gonna tell you straight up: you do not want a Honda CRV with that puny 1.5L 4cyl Turbo.

The highway pickup is terrible, it's noisy, the turbo lag sucks and it's under-powered. I know several people who had 2019's and 2020's. None owned them for more than 6-8 months because they just couldn't stand the horrible lack of power. There's a reason there are so many 1-2 year old CRV's sitting on the lots as trade-in's.

21 posted on 05/06/2021 6:40:10 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Around here the dealers cannot get enough cars to keep their salesmen paid. They are actually laying off sales people. The cars they do get sell immediately for a premium over MSRP. If you snooze, you lose. There are no "fair deals".

Two-year old used cars are going for original list price now. The dealers have trouble getting them too.

If you do buy anything, let the dealer finance it. You may get a slightly better sale price. Then pay off the note right away with a credit union loan or similar financing. Dealer financing is usually a bad deal.

23 posted on 05/06/2021 6:44:06 PM PDT by flamberge (Time has run out. Work with what you've got.)
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Bad time to buy. Dealers aren’t budging on prices. Had word from some astute shoppers. Best prices were 13 months ago, Prices have been rising steadily since January. Been watching but don’t have a need right now. Not worth it given the current sellers market.


24 posted on 05/06/2021 6:45:11 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Buy on the very last day of the quarter when the sales reps are all eager to make their nut. We once bought a Jetta at 11 PM on a Friday which was the last day of the quarter. They all wanted to go home and get me out of there, but they wanted that last sale.

We also used a broker friend of my brother in law. He got us the best possible price on a Volvo in the late 80s and had it delivered. I don’t think we could have possibly beaten his negotiating skills and price. He had connections with dealers all over the West and had a large volume, hence getting good prices. His fee was reasonable. I don’t know if such guys are still around.


25 posted on 05/06/2021 6:46:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“No man’s life, liberty or property are safe while the Legislature is in session" - Gideon J. Tucker)
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First off, you can start by getting the model of the vehicle right. It is not a CRV-EX. It is a CR-V EX.

Second, right now new cars are at a premium because of a Chip shortage that has manufacturers storing cars that roll off their assembly lines until they can get the parts required to complete them. Here is just one article about the problems that Rental car companies are having in trying to buy new cars for their rental fleets:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/40439/hertz-feeling-the-pain-as-rental-companies-look-to-used-market-for-cars

Third, you're trying to haggle down the price of a base, stripped down, no options model that not many dealers carry in the first place. And you're being specific on color. I took all of your specifications (CR-V EX, 2WD, Modern Steel Metallic exterior, Gray interior, zero options) and there isn't one at any dealership in Metro Detroit, Lansing, or Grand Rapids. So you're trying to find a Unicorn model.

Your best bet on getting close to what you want is to first find a dealer that has what you want on their lot, then go haggle with the salesman on the last day of the month. February is the best month because of the fewer days, but at the end of each month, the dealership needs to make their monthly quota of sales and are much more willing to cut a deal as the clock runs out.

30 posted on 05/06/2021 6:50:40 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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A used one in Virginia is selling for about the MSRP in your post.

https://www.carmax.com/car/20314866


32 posted on 05/06/2021 6:52:47 PM PDT by Cecily
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Buy a low miles 97 Buick Park Avenue for $3000 and drive it for the next 15 years.


40 posted on 05/06/2021 7:00:55 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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