[CheshireTheCat]

It would be nice if some research group did a nationwide audit of death certificates and counted the number of times Covid-19 was listed as first, second, third, etc. cause or contributor to death. Bonus if this same group looked at the medical records of people to see when and under what circumstances a Covid test was done and turned up positive and compared this to a person's chronic disease state and condition, prognosis, and when they started deteriorating.

[ecomcon]

All the Covid numbers are garbage

[Rappini]

I firmly believe that the Hospitals get good money for every Covid patient.

[Skywise]

I have hope that the raw data is there to be retrieved in the future and not destroyed, marxist style, which seems to be en vogue. (The CDC may even have the actual numbers tallied and collated)

While I’m STILL tempted to believe that this was solely a scam to get Trump out of office (and in many cases was used that way) The fact that there were and are fast spikes of mass hospitalizations worldwide now causing Oxygen shortages (India, Brazil, UK, California) points to evidence that the danger is REAL.

BUT...

The world governments behave as if they know more about this then they’re letting on which lends credence to theories that this is a bioweapon either intentionally or unintentionally released.
Then there’s Biden - letting hundreds of thousands of immigrants swarm into the country and then flying them into the heartland WITHOUT COVID TESTING OR ISOLATIONIST PROTOCOLS. Not only is that a complete and total abandonment of trying to “flatten the curve” - it actively flaunts even BASIC pandemic protocols... as if the DNC doesn’t believe in the numbers they’re presenting.
TL:DR - None of this pandemic ads up and the world governments CANNOT be trusted as they are obviously corrupt or working with false data to force bad decision making and/or anti-human rights power grabs.

Dark times for the US...
Dark Times for the world.

Regardless of the dangers of this pandemic - there’s a far greater evil out there.

[fwdude]

It doesn’t take an expert to know this is a lie.

I went almost a year before I knew a single person who came down with this virus, and it amounted to a bad cold.

[RC one]

You're all a bunch of idiots. Straight up idiots. it saddens me that you're what we have to fight off the commie revolution. We are effed.

[EvilCapitalist]

One big lie “Covid death toll” helped to create another big lie “President” Biden.

[JayGalt]

This article sets out clearly specific ways death certificate fraud is being committed re COVID-19 and can clarify the situation for those who have been fooled by a broad brush treatment in the MSM.

You can imagine how many death certificates I’ve seen in my career, but you can’t imagine the number of death certificates that are being fraudulently tallied in this current pandemic. Someone in some bureaucrat’s office decided that if COVID appears anywhere on a death certificate, it is counted as a COVID death, even if it isn’t.

[george76]

On its website, the CDC says, just 6% of the people counted as COVID-19 deaths died of COVID-19 alone.

[metmom]

So the 500 k deaths the fear mongering vax pushers are freaking out about to justify the so-called “vaccine” is fraudulent.

Imagine that.

[doc maverick]

It’s even worse with the number of cases. If anyone comes in to see the doctor and has a fever OF ANY ORIGIN, that person must be counted as presumed POSITIVE, even if the fever has NOTHING TO DO WITH COVID. This is in Oregon from the state health department.
Like I said, the number of covid cases is as reliable as the voting numbers in the 2020 election.

[sauropod]

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[familyop]

New York Times: 2020 'Excess Deaths' in US Largest in History
Newsmax
By Brian Trusdell
Friday, 23 April 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/deaths-excess-covid-record/2021/04/23/id/1018815/

[Excerpt:]
"A record 3.5 million people died in the United States last year, about 10% of which — or 345,000 — was attributed to COVID-19, according to a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association Network...

In a separate study, the JAMA Network reported that 2.8 million people died in the United States between March 1, 2020, at the start of the outbreak of COVID-19, and Jan. 2, with 522,368 'excess deaths.'"

[griswold3]

Rosanna Miller, of Amanda in southeastern Ohio, who asked in April for a list of all deaths coded for COVID-19, and including people’s names, ages, county where the death occurred and whether an autopsy was performed.

The state initially said it could provide the data, then declined in the fall when Miller repeated her request.

Rosanna Miller has been battling the State of Ohio on numbers of those who died ‘with’ Covid and the number of those who died ‘From’ Covid.
Thank you, Rosanna. Still waiting for a response but it is Mike Dewine afterall.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

A couple days ago in Powerline Blog...

COVID IS NOW SAVING LIVES

By John Hinderaker, April 22, 2021.

...those who have died with covid on their death certificates would have passed away before long in any event. There were, indeed, a significant number of excess deaths over demographic predictions in the U.S. in 2020. But it seems that absent covid, most of those people would have died some months, or perhaps a year or two, later. If that hypothesis is correct, we should see a lower than demographically predicted death rate over the next year or two.

And, in fact, that is what is happening. This chart, showing total mortality in the U.S., is from the CDC web site. It shows that during 2020, a larger number of Americans than predicted died. It also shows that the mortality rate is currently plummeting, and we have entered the zone where total deaths are fewer than they would normally be. So in a sense, those Wuhan deaths are now being made up:

[joshua c]

there is a financial reward for covid deaths. not difficult to figure it out.

[joshua c]

big pharma had a good year. that is all that counts.

[TalBlack]

but you can’t imagine the number of death certificates that are being fraudulently tallied in this current pandemic.”””

Can’t imagine? Hell, I predicted it...over one year ago. When you know these people you KNOW these people.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"If COVID is on the Immediate Cause line, it is clearly a COVID death. If it is on the first Due To line, it might be a COVID death in a person with a significant comorbidity. If it is on the second or third Due To line, it may or may not have a role in the death, but if it appears in the Other Significant Conditions line, it is not a COVID death, yet it is being counted as one."

Whoever this person is clearly does not understand how a US Standard Certificate of Death works. The last line filled out (which may be the first, second, third, etc.) is the underlying cause of death. That is what's actually counted. For example, someone may die from pulmonary embolism (immediate cause of death) DUE TO lung cancer (underlying cause of death). This is a lung cancer death. Pulmonary embolism is not somehow more responsible for this death because it's listed further up in the lines on the US Standard Certificate of Death because that isn't how a US Standard Certificate of Death works.

I don't know who this author is or who they claim to be, but they have a clear misunderstanding for how a US Standard Certificate of Death is filled out, so if they are/were a medical examiner, I hope somebody goes back to check their work.

[exDemMom]

Right. So if Covid-19 is not listed first, we are supposed to only count it as a “death WITH Covid-19”? As if, suddenly, the death rates from obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, etc., suddenly, simultaneously, and inexplicably jumped by 30% this year? And that the overall death rate (all causes) jumped by 16% this year? Those are unbelievably high (statistically impossible) spontaneous increases in deaths if we are to believe the Covid-19 conspiracies.

I really wish people would apply a bit of critical thought before jumping on these Covid-19 conspiracy bandwagons. Just because a number of factors led to the fact that the person died from Covid-19 does NOT mean they died from something else. The proper interpretation here is that other people who have those same risk factors need to be extra careful to avoid catching Covid-19.

[zek157]

I don’t particularily trust the covid numbers, but one thing I have no doubt of is the covid toll Is higher than necessary.

Failure to treat symptoms until hospitalization was necessary absolutely killed people. Once the O2 saturation goes it’s too late. Simple things like using budesonide before problems occurred would have been lifesaving for many. It’s no fun at 85%. I know I bounced between 92 and 85 for about 4 days.

According to CDC data COPD patients died at the same rate in 2020 as they did in 2019. How could this be possible with this co-morbidity? Use of steroid inhalers?