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Medical Examiner: “The COVID Death Number Is a Lie.”
The Red Elephants ^ | April 16, 2021 | Staff

Posted on 04/24/2021 1:17:14 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

Dennis McGowan a recently retired Chief of Operations for the Fulton County Medical Examiner’s Office in Atlanta recently explained why he calls the SARS-CoV-2 death toll “a big lie.”

He writes:

“Death certificates are pretty uniform in their structure, and they call for strict accuracy in listing the relevant details. There are five critical lines...

The first (top) line is “Immediate Cause of Death.” This is where the actual terminal event is recorded. This line is followed by three more, all labeled “Due To,” where contributors to the immediate cause, in declining order, are listed. An example of this structure might be Immediate Cause listed as Cerebral Hemorrhage, and the first Due To line might be Gunshot Wound. Very direct. In the event that there are other contributors in the cascade of Due To notations, they would follow, in descending order. Finally, there is a line called “Other Significant Conditions,” which serves as a catch-all for relevant, non-fatal items...

You can imagine how many death certificates I’ve seen in my career, but you can’t imagine the number of death certificates that are being fraudulently tallied in this current pandemic. Someone in some bureaucrat’s office decided that if COVID appears anywhere on a death certificate, it is counted as a COVID death, even if it isn’t. If COVID is on the Immediate Cause line, it is clearly a COVID death. If it is on the first Due To line, it might be a COVID death in a person with a significant comorbidity. If it is on the second or third Due To line, it may or may not have a role in the death, but if it appears in the Other Significant Conditions line, it is not a COVID death, yet it is being counted as one....

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; mortality; wuhan
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To: Robert A Cook PE

you can probably bet that the normal 250,000 deaths that are reported every year from medical mal-practice were counted as covid deaths to save hospitals and doctors legal expenses this year.


41 posted on 04/24/2021 2:25:03 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: CheshireTheCat

there is a financial reward for covid deaths. not difficult to figure it out.


42 posted on 04/24/2021 2:27:46 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: metmom
So the 500 k deaths the fear mongering vax pushers are freaking out about to justify the so-called “vaccine” is fraudulent.

Even if they are not fraudulent, the intentional withholding of early&home based therapeutics cost at least 375,000 lives. Imagine how many more would have been lost, had Trump not promoted zinc and HCQ in the early days. There's no conventional messaging which excuses the medical neglect. A century since Spanish flu, we are supposed to believe that there are no simple, safe and effective antivirals?
43 posted on 04/24/2021 2:28:08 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Drawsing
deaths from Covid have not been near as much as the deaths from secondary factors brought on by the societal disruption.

There were 479,050 excess deaths in the US in 2020. There were 352,000 deaths attributed to Covid. That leaves 127,050 unexplained excess deaths. So you expect me to believe that "secondary factors brought on by societal disruption" accounts for not just the 127,050 unexplained excess deaths but also an, as of yet, unspecified by you percentage of the 352,000 reported Covid deaths? is that it?

And you expect me to believe that pretty much every country on earth conspired with the U.S. to maintain this ruse?

And you expect me to not call that a bunch of BS?

Just what were these societal disruptions that lead to the death of 127,050+ mostly elderly Americans btw?

44 posted on 04/24/2021 2:30:24 PM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

What does your mask say?


45 posted on 04/24/2021 2:31:39 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Skywise

46 posted on 04/24/2021 2:32:52 PM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: CheshireTheCat

big pharma had a good year. that is all that counts.


47 posted on 04/24/2021 2:35:38 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: CheshireTheCat

but you can’t imagine the number of death certificates that are being fraudulently tallied in this current pandemic.”””

Can’t imagine? Hell, I predicted it...over one year ago. When you know these people you KNOW these people.


48 posted on 04/24/2021 2:38:02 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: BiglyCommentary

That’s right. So follow the links to the Journal instead of simply believing the NY Times.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778361


49 posted on 04/24/2021 2:40:03 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: metmom

Yeah.......imagine THAT!


50 posted on 04/24/2021 2:43:00 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Skywise

“I have hope that the raw data is there to be retrieved in the future and not destroyed...”

I foresee thousands of coincidental unexplained record room fires and database disappearnces in the future!


51 posted on 04/24/2021 2:45:26 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: familyop

The mouthpiece of ESTABLISHMENT types, i.e. The Wall Street Journal would never push establishment tripe. Noooo. They claimed the 2020 election was honest.


52 posted on 04/24/2021 2:51:53 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Skywise

Truly


53 posted on 04/24/2021 2:52:01 PM PDT by combat_boots (Hi God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! )
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To: CheshireTheCat
"If COVID is on the Immediate Cause line, it is clearly a COVID death. If it is on the first Due To line, it might be a COVID death in a person with a significant comorbidity. If it is on the second or third Due To line, it may or may not have a role in the death, but if it appears in the Other Significant Conditions line, it is not a COVID death, yet it is being counted as one."

Whoever this person is clearly does not understand how a US Standard Certificate of Death works. The last line filled out (which may be the first, second, third, etc.) is the underlying cause of death. That is what's actually counted. For example, someone may die from pulmonary embolism (immediate cause of death) DUE TO lung cancer (underlying cause of death). This is a lung cancer death. Pulmonary embolism is not somehow more responsible for this death because it's listed further up in the lines on the US Standard Certificate of Death because that isn't how a US Standard Certificate of Death works.

I don't know who this author is or who they claim to be, but they have a clear misunderstanding for how a US Standard Certificate of Death is filled out, so if they are/were a medical examiner, I hope somebody goes back to check their work.

54 posted on 04/24/2021 2:55:56 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: fwdude

For quite a few months, St Louis and KC were the only two places covid existed. I live in a place where a lot of people from St Louis own recreational property and they came down pretty much every weekend last Spring and a lot of them came here for our three week lockdown. They don’t wear masks here. The shop at grocery stores here. They mingle with locals. Yet for months, not a single one brought covid here. People go to St Louis from other places on a regular basis yet none of them brought covid home to their rural county.

Dems lie and our two cities were the only place where covid was for months. And yes, there was financial incentive. $13k per case and $39k if the patient went on a ventilator.

Plus last year, the insanity reflected on Trump in part so left leaning hospital admins, coroners, medical examiners etc got to make Trump look bad and get paid doing it. Win, win for a Vote Early and Often leftist.


55 posted on 04/24/2021 3:11:20 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: CheshireTheCat

Right. So if Covid-19 is not listed first, we are supposed to only count it as a “death WITH Covid-19”? As if, suddenly, the death rates from obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, etc., suddenly, simultaneously, and inexplicably jumped by 30% this year? And that the overall death rate (all causes) jumped by 16% this year? Those are unbelievably high (statistically impossible) spontaneous increases in deaths if we are to believe the Covid-19 conspiracies.

I really wish people would apply a bit of critical thought before jumping on these Covid-19 conspiracy bandwagons. Just because a number of factors led to the fact that the person died from Covid-19 does NOT mean they died from something else. The proper interpretation here is that other people who have those same risk factors need to be extra careful to avoid catching Covid-19.


56 posted on 04/24/2021 3:19:43 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: JayGalt

See my tagline. Mr. Clemens had the psychology figured out long ago.


57 posted on 04/24/2021 3:47:14 PM PDT by JennysCool ( "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ― Mark Twain )
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To: CheshireTheCat

I don’t particularily trust the covid numbers, but one thing I have no doubt of is the covid toll Is higher than necessary.

Failure to treat symptoms until hospitalization was necessary absolutely killed people. Once the O2 saturation goes it’s too late. Simple things like using budesonide before problems occurred would have been lifesaving for many. It’s no fun at 85%. I know I bounced between 92 and 85 for about 4 days.

According to CDC data COPD patients died at the same rate in 2020 as they did in 2019. How could this be possible with this co-morbidity? Use of steroid inhalers?


58 posted on 04/24/2021 4:00:22 PM PDT by zek157
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To: JennysCool

So much truth in Samuel Clemens observations.


59 posted on 04/24/2021 4:03:35 PM PDT by JayGalt (Nation under Assault )
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To: ecomcon

Everything about Covid was a lie.


60 posted on 04/24/2021 4:03:42 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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