Medical Examiner: “The COVID Death Number Is a Lie.”

The Red Elephants ^ | April 16, 2021 | Staff

[CheshireTheCat]

Dennis McGowan a recently retired Chief of Operations for the Fulton County Medical Examiner’s Office in Atlanta recently explained why he calls the SARS-CoV-2 death toll “a big lie.”

He writes:

“Death certificates are pretty uniform in their structure, and they call for strict accuracy in listing the relevant details. There are five critical lines...

The first (top) line is “Immediate Cause of Death.” This is where the actual terminal event is recorded. This line is followed by three more, all labeled “Due To,” where contributors to the immediate cause, in declining order, are listed. An example of this structure might be Immediate Cause listed as Cerebral Hemorrhage, and the first Due To line might be Gunshot Wound. Very direct. In the event that there are other contributors in the cascade of Due To notations, they would follow, in descending order. Finally, there is a line called “Other Significant Conditions,” which serves as a catch-all for relevant, non-fatal items...

You can imagine how many death certificates I’ve seen in my career, but you can’t imagine the number of death certificates that are being fraudulently tallied in this current pandemic. Someone in some bureaucrat’s office decided that if COVID appears anywhere on a death certificate, it is counted as a COVID death, even if it isn’t. If COVID is on the Immediate Cause line, it is clearly a COVID death. If it is on the first Due To line, it might be a COVID death in a person with a significant comorbidity. If it is on the second or third Due To line, it may or may not have a role in the death, but if it appears in the Other Significant Conditions line, it is not a COVID death, yet it is being counted as one....

[JayGalt]

I’d love to see it. We need honesty.
There is so much smoke flying all I know for sure is there is lots of chicanery.

[RC one]

I provide links and sources to refute your BS all day long. Your guys are just idiots.

[JoSixChip]

Eat lead paint much?

Not lately, why?

[goodnesswins]

I have my opinion based upon information. ..you have yours...but I don’t call people “idiots”...

[metmom]

So the 500 k deaths the fear mongering vax pushers are freaking out about to justify the so-called “vaccine” is fraudulent.

Imagine that.

[JayGalt]

LOL.

[RC one]

I provided you a link to a WSJ article that asserts that the Covid numbers are actually higher than reported, not lower. You wanna refute it?

[metmom]

You're all a bunch of idiots. Straight up idiots. it saddens me that you're what we have to fight off the commie revolution. We are effed.

Such a compelling argument to support your position.

It just makes everyone want to run and join you.

And yes, we are being f’ed, by the likes of people like you who push this thing as if it were the Black Death or Ebola.

[doc maverick]

It’s even worse with the number of cases. If anyone comes in to see the doctor and has a fever OF ANY ORIGIN, that person must be counted as presumed POSITIVE, even if the fever has NOTHING TO DO WITH COVID. This is in Oregon from the state health department.
Like I said, the number of covid cases is as reliable as the voting numbers in the 2020 election.

[familyop]

"I have my opinion based upon information. ..you have yours...but I don’t call people 'idiots'"

That's right, RC one. No name calling allowed, unless you're a Qult member. ;)

[sauropod]

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[lizma2]

I read awhile back hospitals were paid an extra $50,000+ dollars for a Covid patient on a vent.

Would like to see if there is a difference in the percentage of Covid diagnosis rate between cooperate hospitals and religious based hospitals.

[familyop]

New York Times: 2020 'Excess Deaths' in US Largest in History
Newsmax
By Brian Trusdell
Friday, 23 April 2021
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/deaths-excess-covid-record/2021/04/23/id/1018815/

[Excerpt:]
"A record 3.5 million people died in the United States last year, about 10% of which — or 345,000 — was attributed to COVID-19, according to a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association Network...

In a separate study, the JAMA Network reported that 2.8 million people died in the United States between March 1, 2020, at the start of the outbreak of COVID-19, and Jan. 2, with 522,368 'excess deaths.'"

[ConsCA]

“They are probably only a tenth of what they are accounted to be.”

I would guess not even that since there is no covid. It’s a flu!

[Drawsing]

I clicked on your link. It contained the following paragraph. If read carefully it tends to corroborate the idea that direct deaths from Covid have not been near as much as the deaths from secondary factors brought on by the societal disruption.

Less than two-thirds of that surge has been attributed directly to Covid-19. Public-health experts believe that many, if not most, of the additional deaths were directly linked to the disease, particularly early in the pandemic when testing was sparse. Some of those excess deaths came from indirect fallout, from health-care disruptions, people avoiding the hospital and other issues.

[griswold3]

Rosanna Miller, of Amanda in southeastern Ohio, who asked in April for a list of all deaths coded for COVID-19, and including people’s names, ages, county where the death occurred and whether an autopsy was performed.

The state initially said it could provide the data, then declined in the fall when Miller repeated her request.

Rosanna Miller has been battling the State of Ohio on numbers of those who died ‘with’ Covid and the number of those who died ‘From’ Covid.
Thank you, Rosanna. Still waiting for a response but it is Mike Dewine afterall.

[goodnesswins]

The article of this thread refutes it

[ProtectOurFreedom]

A couple days ago in Powerline Blog...

COVID IS NOW SAVING LIVES

By John Hinderaker, April 22, 2021.

...those who have died with covid on their death certificates would have passed away before long in any event. There were, indeed, a significant number of excess deaths over demographic predictions in the U.S. in 2020. But it seems that absent covid, most of those people would have died some months, or perhaps a year or two, later. If that hypothesis is correct, we should see a lower than demographically predicted death rate over the next year or two.

And, in fact, that is what is happening. This chart, showing total mortality in the U.S., is from the CDC web site. It shows that during 2020, a larger number of Americans than predicted died. It also shows that the mortality rate is currently plummeting, and we have entered the zone where total deaths are fewer than they would normally be. So in a sense, those Wuhan deaths are now being made up:

[BiglyCommentary]

Awesome souces. The NY SLIMES or Establishment Medicine would NEVER LIE OR DECEIVE or push propaganda. Noooo...

[Skywise]

So... do you believe Dr. Fauci now - after he claimed he lied about masks not working that masks work and what he says is factual and that 2 masks will prevent the virus.

or did you believe Dr. Fauci THEN when he claimed that masks would not prevent the virus because the virus was 10 times smaller than the porus materials of all paper and cloth masks?