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Why is Wall Stree driving up stocks???
August 24,2020 | Hojczyk

Posted on 08/24/2020 6:59:19 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Futures are up again tonight

Is Wall Street secretly helping Trump??

Or will there be a big crash come election time?

There has been no real pull backs since the low??

Maybe time to sell before October??

This is like the virus insanity


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: anotherstupidvanity; idioticvanity
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To: Williams

Are you guys nuts? :-) the federal government just pumped six trillion dollars into the United States. Where else are they going to put it, the individuals?

if a solid market is built on $600 a week unemployment, stimulus checks out of nowhere, free money for businesses, and the FED injecting trillions then yeah we’re set


21 posted on 08/24/2020 7:43:06 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: entropy12

Bingo winner winner chicken dinner. Interest is at near zero. They could run to 4% before u might consider leaving the stock market.


22 posted on 08/24/2020 7:46:09 PM PDT by magua (It's not racism, it's just that thisBecause itÂ’s being reported that a lot of this started in 2015.)
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To: Hojczyk

The big tech stocks are driving the market averages. Take those stocks out of the mix and the market averages would look much different.


23 posted on 08/24/2020 7:49:38 PM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: Oldhunk

They all arent going up at same time. Example..goldman..up today..but because money got rotated out of some tech.


24 posted on 08/24/2020 7:51:45 PM PDT by RummyChick (Stop Apologizing for things you didn't do. Stop Demanding Apologies when refuse to forgive)
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To: untenured
Stock prices go up when people think listed-company profits will go up

Sorry, but, this is incorrect.

Profits is not the real reason for a lot of the stock market frenzy. There is not a lot of profits to be had lately and probably not in the near future.

Most people make money in the stock market by buying low and selling high, and the hope is that, a lot of other people buy into the thought that a lot of companies are experiencing good profits, and will enter the market, thereby making stock prices rise.

Example: where are the profits for Tesla. If any, they're microscopic. Is Apple worth the market cap that it's experiencing lately? I don't think so. Even if Apple is profitable, it's not worth the market cap that it's experiencing lately. And the same applies to Amazon or Alphabet or Microsoft. They're all in bubble territory.
25 posted on 08/24/2020 7:52:43 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Oldhunk

I margined the hell out of my stock account in March and April and have already cashed in a 25% return. I still have serious margin in play until January as most of my plays have only come back about 60%.

Majority of my returns have been on call options against Index ETFs (SPY mainly & QQQ a bit). My next play will be Russell ETFs as they have yet to recover.


26 posted on 08/24/2020 7:59:54 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Hojczyk

The Fed printed many trillions. It had to go somewhere fast.


27 posted on 08/24/2020 8:09:14 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (mohammed was a slaver: Burn the Koran!)
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To: Williams

I went to buy a clothes dryer Friday. Very, very limited supply. Awaiting the Whirlpool the wife chose, projected resupply date of 9/22. In any store look at the depleted stocks. Once the scam’s lockdowns are all rescinded it will be a huge quarter just filling supply holes.


28 posted on 08/24/2020 8:14:22 PM PDT by hardspunned (MAGA, now more than ever)
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To: Hojczyk
Since the so-called pandemic started, I have the following questions:

Are people eating less?
Are people consuming less goods and services?
Are people not working?

The answer to all three questions is a resounding NO

Many companies are having record profits. Nobody's going hungry. Everybody's buying stuff from Amazon.com and other online places. The delivery trucks are everywhere. Almost everybody's still working, except maybe at home instead of in the office.

Commercial real estate and restaurants are taking a beating. As well as the entertainment industry.

Most other industries are thriving.

29 posted on 08/24/2020 8:17:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Hojczyk
THIS is why the Dow futures are up big tonight:

Salesforce, Amgen and Honeywell added to Dow in major shake-up to the average

30 posted on 08/24/2020 8:33:53 PM PDT by montag813 (Nonsenze)
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To: entropy12

“If you already have long term gains, and you are afraid stocks will crater with a Biden win, why not sell now?”

That’s not free either - uncle Sam wants a piece of that action. 20% on long term gains quite a bit more on short term. And it’s always tricky trying to time when to get back in.

I didn’t sell when the plague hit, or when the subprime hit and I’m glad I didn’t. My portfolio quickly recovered to more than where it was at the start of those events.

Of course I understand that hedging costs money and the timing of buying and selling is also tricky.

But I might buy some SQQQs calls just as a bit of insurance, given the leverage involved. It’ll be nowhere near a full hedge, more of a bit of speculation. Might help relieve some of the pain if Plugs wins.


31 posted on 08/24/2020 9:02:18 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: Hojczyk

You want a crash? Vote RAT.


32 posted on 08/24/2020 9:19:54 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Hojczyk

“Maybe time to sell before October??”

only if you truly believe biden is gonna win, otherwise you’ll miss some big gains when the market explodes when donald trump is re-elected ...


33 posted on 08/24/2020 9:59:06 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: aquila48

“I’m trying to figure out how to best hedge in case the Rats win.’

by some PUT futures on one of the major indexes that expire in December or next Monday ... if Trump wins, you’ll lose the value of the PUTs, if biden wins, then you’ll make money on the PUTs to offset your stock loses ...


34 posted on 08/24/2020 10:03:14 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: RoseofTexas

“Weren’t we told Wall Street endorsed Biden? “

that came from an entirely fake wall street journal article ...


35 posted on 08/24/2020 10:04:11 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: aquila48

that expire in December or next JANUARY ...


36 posted on 08/24/2020 10:07:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Hojczyk

Hi.

Simple answer. Cheap money.

Look at your return on savings account and certs of deposit.

5.56mm


37 posted on 08/24/2020 10:09:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: catnipman

“by some PUT futures on one of the major indexes that expire in December or next january ...”

I’m leaning more toward buying at the money ($24) December calls of the SQQQ. It’s a triple inverse on QQQ. And I’d pay for the premium by selling december $10 SQQQs puts.

That means if the Qs drop 20%, in case Plugs wins, I’d make triple that (60%l. On the other hand, if Trump wins, the Q’s would have to go up by 20% in order for my puts to get exercised. I doubt that they would go up that much, since a Trump win would be an extension of the status quo.


38 posted on 08/24/2020 10:50:34 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: aquila48

What good are stock market profits if you never cash out and spend the money?
Taxes are unavoidable unless you have a Roth IRA.
I have those but can’t put millions in Roth. So most of my money is in variable annuities where money grows tax deferred and there is no RMD.


39 posted on 08/25/2020 12:23:54 AM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: Hojczyk

$10 Trillion in new money since 2008 has to go somewhere, and most of it is going into stocks and real estate. Not much going into savings accounts or CD’s that is for sure!

“Bubblicious!”

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2


40 posted on 08/25/2020 12:33:17 AM PDT by Drago
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