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Crunching the 380 – a ballistics analysis (Part I)
Self (own blog post) ^ | 1/14/2020 | No.6

Posted on 01/15/2020 6:42:22 PM PST by No.6

After too long of a delay, I've finally started grinding out the words behind the study I've done of .380 ACP rounds, and posted part one.

Yes, this is a bit of a blog pimping, but as I have no ads or monetization, one can hardly call it self-serving … it's just that there's too many words to make a good forum post.

A short excerpt: ----- Our ideal round is not necessarily the same as the officer’s – but there are many similarities. If we’re forced to shoot in self-defense (presuming our threat doesn’t quit, run away, or hide) we very much need our action to stop the threat – maybe more so, as we may not have an armed partner and government behind us. Accordingly, on ammunition sites and YouTube vloggers alike the barrier tests are usually not replicated, and you’ll find tests largely involving bare gel or denim/cloth/fleece “heavy clothing” (and the occasional bag of oranges). This set of articles uses the 12″-18″ FBI standard, not because the .380 ACP is a duty round, but because some objective standard is better than none. When making your own choice, keep in mind this is about personal defense, not duty.

...this study doesn’t “trust” or “distrust” Shooting the Bull 410, Lucky Gunner, or any other author. It pulls together 330+ rounds from 12 different authors, 12 different firearms, and 29 different types of ammunition, all in .380 ACP. -----

Full article at https://www.wereratgames.com along with a prior bit I'd posted, which has nothing at all to do with arms but is a data science item about simulation racing.

Anyway enjoy, and I'm looking forward to cranking the rest of it out in intervals of less than a week each so this wordy intro doesn't get stale.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 380; ballistics; banglist; blog; firearms; learnhowtopost
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To: No.6

You really wrote a lot of words to say nothing.


21 posted on 01/15/2020 7:57:05 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Well the thread is about .380s, so...


22 posted on 01/15/2020 8:50:42 PM PST by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: BenLurkin
HA!

Just do it right.


23 posted on 01/15/2020 8:52:43 PM PST by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: No.6

I’ll keep my Colt Commander in .45 ACP thanks.


24 posted on 01/15/2020 9:17:08 PM PST by wjcsux (Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.)
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To: mylife; digger48
"S&W MP Shield in 9mm rocks."

~~~~~~~

For her birthday present, my wife picked the S&W M&P Shield in 9mm. She tried several (mostly .380s) But when she gripped and aimed the Shield, she exclaimed, "That's it!"

Took it back to our range -- and the trigger pull was so hard, I honestly thought I'd left the safety on!

After several evenings of careful stoning and dry-fring it with 3M "Finesse-It" polishing compound on rough spots, it smoothed out, and lightened up -- and it now has a nice trigger pull.

It now shoots just fine, and I must admit that I enjoy shooting & carrying it -- even if doing so makes my HK P7 a mite jealous... '-)

25 posted on 01/15/2020 9:45:55 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias | "Islam": Allah's useful idiots | Brennan & 0b0z0: Islam's useful idiots)
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To: TXnMA

Mine has an excellent trigger pull, 3 lbs?

Small and light, compact, positive safety.


26 posted on 01/15/2020 9:56:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: No.6

Gavrilo Princip assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife with one shot each from a .380. Both died within minutes.

Anyone who considers it a “nothing gun” should volunteer to try being shot with it. Same goes for .25 ACP, for that matter.

I had a Colt Mustang. Fun gun, easily carried in a pants pocket.


27 posted on 01/16/2020 12:44:46 AM PST by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: No.6

Check out Paul Harrel’s channel on YouTube, it is excellent. Especially if you like meat targets and high tech fleece backstops.


28 posted on 01/16/2020 4:07:32 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's no coincidence that the Democrat/media complex always sides with America's enemies.)
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To: wjcsux; Mariner

Cool! This isn’t “caliber wars” tho and somewhere in there (Mariner’s right, I wrote too much for an intro) is a paragraph stating that the duty calibers don’t have a question about hitting the FBI spec.

‘This is about what does work for .380s for those who carry them as primary or BUG.


29 posted on 01/16/2020 4:26:16 AM PST by No.6
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To: Rio
.380? Give me .308

I vote both. The .380 conceals beautifully but is a little weak on stopping power. The .308 has better stopping power but doesn't fit in my pocket as well as I'd like.

30 posted on 01/16/2020 5:16:41 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: CodeToad

I agree, I love my .380 (Ruger also).
My daughter carries a .380 as well after she Shot mine and fell in love with
the caliber. I don’t recall what brand she ended up buying, but it came with
a “hot pink” handle, and she used that as the tie-breaker with the two brands she tried out. (She is fashion conscious).


31 posted on 01/16/2020 6:27:17 AM PST by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: digger48

Take a look at the CZ2075 RAMI


32 posted on 01/16/2020 6:29:20 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: digger48
"Decent little gun for $279"

Sig P-365 is the way to go.

33 posted on 01/16/2020 6:36:47 AM PST by mosaicwolf
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To: Pollster1

Good plan. Here’s a pocket .308 if you ever need one:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/11/heizer-defense-pocket-ak-pocket-sniper-308-due-soon/


34 posted on 01/16/2020 6:54:17 AM PST by Rio
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“...and the occasional bag of oranges...” :)


35 posted on 01/16/2020 9:17:10 AM PST by No.6
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To: Delta 21

Love the BDA!!


36 posted on 01/16/2020 9:55:18 AM PST by Icuhaji (Enjoy The Show!)
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To: No.6

Mossberg Shockwave review. Clint Smith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM_sqSTg2v8

Just sayin...


37 posted on 01/16/2020 9:21:55 PM PST by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: No.6; Brooklyn Attitude

“Pardon the Shatneresque pauses...”

:)


38 posted on 01/16/2020 9:23:14 PM PST by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: Rio

That is silly. I would never buy one, but I like it!


39 posted on 01/17/2020 3:34:46 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: mosaicwolf
Sig P-365 is the way to go.

Bought one today. Sweet little gun for $450

Dark by the time I got home, so couldn't fire it yet.

Thank you for the tip!

40 posted on 01/19/2020 10:58:12 PM PST by digger48
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