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What the Coming Uncivil War Is Really About
Return to Order ^ | July 2018 | John Horvat II

Posted on 10/30/2019 6:34:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is talk of a new American civil war. Indeed, the vitriol of opposing parties is reaching levels heretofore unseen. It is especially vicious now over the retirement of Justice Anthony Kennedy. There is nothing civil about this coming war. For now, it is still a culture battle, but it might be better labeled as an uncivil war.

This new uncivil war is different from America’s last fratricidal conflict. At least back then there were social units involved that united against other social units. Everything was defined leaving no room for doubt one way or the other. It was territorial. Whole states fought against other states. Families and communities united to back one party or the other.

A Distorted Vision of Liberty

In today’s uncivil war none of these factors exist. There are no social units or territorial claims. There are instead collections of individuals scattered all about. Perhaps more disconcerting is the fact that the two sides are fragmented and inseparably intermingled.

Civil wars are generally fought as a way to define the future course of events. What defines this uncivil war is a lack of definition or even a desire to define. It thrives on a great dissatisfaction at nothing specific, but rather everything in general.

However, at the center of this uncivil war is a distorted vision of liberty that was ironically articulated by the departing Justice Anthony Kennedy.

In his now infamous “mystery of life” passage of the 1992 Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey decision, he declared that “At the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History; Miscellaneous; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: america; anarchy; christianity; civilwar; classicalliberalism; god; order; religion; thefifties; thesixties; uncivilwar
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1 posted on 10/30/2019 6:34:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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From 2018.

PING!


2 posted on 10/30/2019 6:35:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Who do I see about being a warrant officer? What will the uniforms look like?


3 posted on 10/30/2019 6:39:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Coming? It’s been going on for 4-5 years now.

It’s a cyberwar, being fought online.


4 posted on 10/30/2019 6:39:30 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Democrats are a growing evil.


5 posted on 10/30/2019 6:43:51 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I really don't see it happening soon. In CWI, it was basically a block of States vs a block of States. Just how is this CWII supposed to work?

The supply lines to the Archipelago will be cut off asap. Not to mention that the Archipelagans may be long on bodies, but short on ordnance.

Of course people should be prepared. But I think this is a whole lotta talk by a whole lotta woke Dems who have no idea what they're really pondering.

6 posted on 10/30/2019 6:56:31 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Marxist revolution. Same as the Communist publications in America have always made clear.


7 posted on 10/30/2019 6:57:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The left is making it unavoidable, we can submit or fight, same as Islam.


8 posted on 10/30/2019 6:58:08 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DoodleBob

California is already largely in open revolt (sanctuary cities), allowing illegals to hold public office, entering into illegal treaties with Red China.

The question will be how difficult will it be for the New United States to subjugate California and will the Red Chinese intervene militarily on the side of California?

On flip side, a few incendiary bombs would probably burn the whole state down.


9 posted on 10/30/2019 7:02:18 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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I’m told that’s what the Chilean unrest is all about.


10 posted on 10/30/2019 7:06:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In my estimation, the differences between the last civil war and the coming civil war is this:

In the first civil war the two sides had a difference of opinion on two issues, States Rights and Slavery. However, their foundation, a belief in a Christian God and His rule over their lives.

In the coming civil war the two sides no longer share that foundation.

The chasm that exists between the two sides can only be fixed by either the miracle of true Holy Spirit driven Christian revival, or, a bloody civil war or both.

We are in much, much worse scenario now then we were before the last civil war.


11 posted on 10/30/2019 7:10:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The liberal “elite” doesn’t understand that President Trump is the only thing between them and certain death. They should encourage all dems to vote for Trump.


12 posted on 10/30/2019 7:15:16 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Shallow analysis. Steaming pile.


13 posted on 10/30/2019 7:16:32 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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bkmk


14 posted on 10/30/2019 7:16:44 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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I’m tired of reading this sort of stuff! Just wake me up when the shooting starts, fer chrissakes! Let’s just get it on and get it over with!


15 posted on 10/30/2019 7:22:21 PM PDT by DrPretorius
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It will start when they come for our guns.

The next step is the cattle cars, so might as well turn them in bullets-first.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

16 posted on 10/30/2019 7:28:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: SoConPubbie

So I guess that giving the other side’s wounded care after a battle (like CWI) is right out, then?


17 posted on 10/30/2019 7:29:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not sure what your point is or how you arrived at it from my analysis.


18 posted on 10/30/2019 7:31:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If it was Justice Roberts, I might read the article. Old.


19 posted on 10/30/2019 7:42:58 PM PDT by Lopeover (Patriots Fight)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

1) it won’t happen. The Socialist will take over and enslav us withoutt a shot fired, because of #2
2) the right has no desire to fight off these assholes. We may have to he guns, but the only Sparticus we have is Trump, and outside of rallies, I see very few people organizing to support them. The left on the other hand has terrorist organizations that can show up a moments notice. We don’t. That’s why they will win. We will allow it to happen because the only fighting we do is on a keyboard. These Commies don’t care about rules of civility and laws. We just talk a big game.


20 posted on 10/30/2019 8:10:44 PM PDT by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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