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They’re Out There
MOTUS A.D. ^ | 5-29-19 | MOTUS

Posted on 05/29/2019 5:24:08 AM PDT by NOBO2012

Oh, they’re out there all right. Raj and I saw one with our own eyes at dusk one summer day over 40 years ago. And no, there were no chemicals involved.

Our sovereignty is being violated by vehicles of unknown origin.” – Christopher Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence during the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations

The U.S. military has seen them.

   The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds (5000 mph!). – NYT

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Daily invasions from the summer of 2014 to March of 2015? Why is anybody surprised? That was at the height of the Obama open door, open border years. Aliens from every corner of the earth arrived on our southern border; what made us think it would stop with that? Apparently America is not just the best place on earth to live and word spreads fast. It doesn’t really matter where these invaders are coming from, since we know nothing about them they pose a threat that we seem committed to ignore.

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(The) growing number of such sightings in sensitive military contexts—reported by highly trained, highly credible witnesses and corroborated by some of the world’s most sophisticated technology, including several infrared videos shot from fighter jets…To him, they signal a potential high-level strategic threat of unknown origin—one the nation would be foolish to ignore. - History Channel

These UFOs perform maneuvers that are, shall we say, challenging to mere human pilots:

What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.

“Speed doesn’t kill you,” Lieutenant Graves said. “Stopping does. Or acceleration.” – NYT

But I don’t want you to jump to conclusions, this is not evidence of visitors from a galaxy far, far away. As Christopher Mellon explains:

A UFO is not necessarily an alien from another planet. It is simply a flying object that cannot be explained away through conventional means.

That’s the first thing I’ve read about UFOs that makes sense.  Keep in mind that most flying objects can still be explained through conventional means.

Side note: As a rule I’d never recommend anything from the NYT, but the UFO article is quite eye-opening. Also note that a six-part History Channel series, 'Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation' premieres Friday 5/31 at 10/9c. You might want to set your DVR.

Posted from: MOTUS A.D


TOPICS: Astronomy; Humor; Politics; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; aliens; astronomy; fringe; hillaryclinton; immigration; ohsomysteriouso; science; ufo; ufos; usnavy
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1 posted on 05/29/2019 5:24:08 AM PDT by NOBO2012
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The Hellary vid was sweet. Crack problem no doubt and I do not mean the one on the airplane.


2 posted on 05/29/2019 5:34:29 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: NOBO2012

Ok requesting the picture of History Channel Alien Expert.


3 posted on 05/29/2019 5:35:49 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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4 posted on 05/29/2019 5:45:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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Thanks, I needed that :-)


5 posted on 05/29/2019 6:33:50 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: NOBO2012

Most of these “anomalies are detected with late generation sensors, not visually, perhaps they are electromagnetic, particle or other heretofore unobserved/undetected phenomenoma, but not aliens. Occam’s razor applied.


6 posted on 05/29/2019 6:53:31 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: NOBO2012
They are using Reagan against us - below is part of Reagan's speech to the UN

In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.


Globalism is failing and they are getting desperate. "Climate Change" hasn't become scary enough to herd us into the New World Order, next up is imminent alien invasion!
7 posted on 05/29/2019 6:53:46 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: NOBO2012

Maybe we’re getting closer to the truth being revealed.


8 posted on 05/29/2019 8:35:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Drake’s Equation- the number of technically advanced sentient beings in other words is a function of infinitely unknown variables that either predicts untold millions of such, or, none. Take your time, pick wisely. If any variable is zero..like maybe evolution..
It takes more religion to believe in little green men than in a loving Creator.....


9 posted on 05/29/2019 12:43:21 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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So with all the billions of planets orbiting billions of stars in this galaxy with billions of observable galaxies, better odds are we’re alone?


10 posted on 05/29/2019 3:43:07 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Well, did you look at Drake’s equation? If one variable is a zero, then the equation is null. If none of the variables are zero, then where are they? I think some really smart scientists have agreed that there is likely no one else out there, else by now we ought to have heard about it.

The equation would only work if indeed there have been billions of years for evolution to have occurred here or elsewhere- an assumption ( remember, the “theory” of evolution) not in fact. Not good math let alone good science. See, in evolution the operative is time, not God ( but that still begs the question of “why?”; things do not happen without impetus, an action by an actor). Hawking or Dawkins or some such guy states that the universe came into existence because “it had to”. That is a silly argument, unless the universe is alive and self determinant....more akin to scifi.

Now, on the other hand, if indeed the prime actor/cause in the universe is outside of it all ( as in bigger than the creation) then we indeed can be the sole occupants of that system.

If little green men from some distant planet arrived tomorrow, I would still place my trust and eternal hope in the Lord Jesus.


11 posted on 05/29/2019 6:53:37 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: wastedyears

I should have mentioned the “Fermi Paradox”- since the logic of the math ( still assuming evolutionary theory of origins as the basis) and the scale of the universe demands there be other life, but the fact that there is no evidence of any such ET life argues the contrary- that there is no life out there.

So Fermi paradox seems to answer Drakes Equation- one or more of the variables may be zero- and therefore the product of the variables otherwise is Zero as well. What’s the probability of the probability since we have no evidence, only anecdote or unexplainable that there is life other than ours? If this is where we are at, then we have left math and science and now are solidly in the realm of philosophy- and a version of philosophy that apparently is w/o rational basis.


12 posted on 05/29/2019 7:03:25 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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but the fact that there is no evidence of any such ET life argues the contrary- that there is no life out there.


The distances in the Milky Way, not to mention extra galactic distance, are so enormous, it’s foolish to expect ET to show up here and even more foolish to think there isn’t more intelligent life out there.


13 posted on 05/29/2019 7:15:49 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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There is intelligent life out there. They are to smart to stop off at this rock - galactic slum full of crazies armed with nukes.


14 posted on 05/29/2019 7:23:30 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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It’s not like we’d be hard to find. With TV signals and radio radiating out in space, we stick out like a sparkler. Sixty light years out, Lucy is stompin’ grapes.


15 posted on 05/29/2019 7:26:28 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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Actually 84 years since War of the Worlds first broadcast. It has hit about 125 solar systems. Mice nuts. Of course a stray ship might pick it up. Not clear to me how hyper or warp drive ships in transit would intercept radio waves. Of course things being the way they are they will intercept Lucy and keep on going.


16 posted on 05/29/2019 7:33:07 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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17 posted on 05/29/2019 7:35:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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18 posted on 05/29/2019 7:53:06 PM PDT by TianaHighrider
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To: sparklite2

Sparklite2- that’s what the Fermi Paradox begs- why if so much scale, no evidence? So, if it is foolish, then some really smart folks like Fermi Hart et al wondered the same thing....

Personally I think it as all built on a false premise- that everything is bazaillion of eons old....

Genesis states that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth....and gave it to man to manage.

Darwin, Hawking, Dawkins et al say “over the passage of untold eons, all of this popped up on its own accord for no known reason and then random chance accidents brought forth life and humans are the culmination on this small rock, o obviously there must be more like ( sic) us, yay...”

We have to choose, wisely...


19 posted on 05/29/2019 7:54:26 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior
Sparklite2- that’s what the Fermi Paradox begs- why if so much scale, no evidence? So, if it is foolish, then some really smart folks like Fermi Hart et al wondered the same thing....

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If we could leave religion out of it (I know, I know), it's because of the unimaginably large scale and distances that it would be amazing to find any evidence of intelligent life looking out from this planet

If Drake and Fermi could have seen this Hubble image of galaxies in deep space, and still deny the possibility of extra terrestrial life, then, yeah, I'd call it foolish. And anthropomorphic to a fault. Those little specks are not stars, they're galaxies.


20 posted on 05/29/2019 8:13:40 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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