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Posted on 01/19/2019 12:00:59 PM PST by lurked_for_a_decade

You're a man, If - Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
Ifyou can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

A little background on Rudyard Kipling, the above poem and his son.

The fate of John Kipling, rudyard Kiplings son.

My Boy Jack’ by Rudyard Kipling (c.1916)

“Have you news of my boy Jack?”
Not this tide.
“When d’you think that he’ll come back?”
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

“Has any one else had word of him?”
Not this tide.
For what is sunk will hardly swim,
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

“Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?”
None this tide,
Nor any tide,
Except he did not shame his kind —
Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide.

Then hold your head up all the more,
This tide,
And every tide;
Because he was the son you bore,
And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!

Pardon me whilst I wipe the privilege running from my eyes and collect my thoughts.

Lurked_for_a_decade


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To: lurked_for_a_decade

To me that song is man’s anthem.

And by the way a lot of people think Trump is an ass, too, but sometimes that’s exactly what the situation calls for.

A bull in a China closet full of vile and depraved idols.


21 posted on 01/19/2019 12:34:21 PM PST by aquila48
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Apparently a man is a woman with a beard.


22 posted on 01/19/2019 12:34:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Very nice first post.

Kipling Rocks.


23 posted on 01/19/2019 12:37:54 PM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

simple reply,
The Dollar Shave Club.


24 posted on 01/19/2019 12:41:29 PM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: sparklite2

‘Don’t think she had whiskers. She moustachioed though - as some takes on Shakespeare’s Sonnets posit that one of his muses therein was a man - is “engaging” shall we say?


25 posted on 01/19/2019 12:41:51 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Bon mots

fagdom


26 posted on 01/19/2019 12:42:50 PM PST by onedoug
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To: lurked_for_a_decade; All

Wow... the fad for obsessing over the Gillette ad is going viral. Let’s go put on black ski masks, yell at cops, and break Starbucks windows.


27 posted on 01/19/2019 12:59:40 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Here was a direct rebuttal to the Gillette “ad.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=x_HL0wiK4Zc


28 posted on 01/19/2019 1:01:48 PM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: lurked_for_a_decade
I grew up surrounded by men like Colonel Frances Fenton. All my friends fathers served. Just a week ago we attended the Funeral of a friends father. He serve on Guadalcanal, Tarawa and Saipan before a medical discharge ended his military career. He was awarded Two Purple Hearts and the Silver Star. He carried physical and mental scares for the rest of his life but as Kipling said, "He held on." Lived to 96 years old missing six ribs and only accepted the VA benifits he earned. It was an honor to know him.

My only none violent/socially acceptable response is to turn the Television off for the last 20 years and to leave the room when such disrespectful nonsense is spouted with an obvious disapproving shake of my head.

I think dismissive low key ridicule works best.

‘Those poor souls. They didn’t have their fathers here’.

It distrubes me to see how far we've fallen but that is exactly what they want.

So I wear my "Toxic Masculinity" with pride.

Open Doors, wait to be served last, say please and thankyou, help old ladies accross the street. etc

It's a legitmate response and it drives em nuts.

29 posted on 01/19/2019 1:02:47 PM PST by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: aquila48

The most effective people I ever worked with were total A-holes and rather crude to boot. But you had to respect them cause they got the job done. Couldn’t agree more.


30 posted on 01/19/2019 1:04:27 PM PST by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: Brilliant

Speaking of beards, if San Fran Nan - The Goddess of Gomorrah - has one more face lift she’ll be sporting a goatee!


31 posted on 01/19/2019 1:05:58 PM PST by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

What is a man? Guys who’ve been using your product for over a hundred years and will now quit using them.


32 posted on 01/19/2019 1:12:59 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Good post. Thanks.


33 posted on 01/19/2019 1:22:54 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Cobra64
I'm not obsessing. It's more like the straw that broke the camels back. I'm done. I will no longer remain silent in the face of such horse (Sxxt) manure.

The left is running a full scale assault on western values and I am no longer ceding ground. As Obama said, "Get in their face", well, two can play that game. Their leaders don't believe this crap it's merely a way to demoralize us and I refuse.

Sort of an #IRefuseMovement

34 posted on 01/19/2019 1:27:47 PM PST by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

Just saw the ad for the first time.
What’s wrong with it?
I like it.
NIKE is dead to my family.
Gillette? Well - their message is the same as mine, it seems.
Real
Men
Love
Women
and
our
Daughters.


35 posted on 01/19/2019 1:33:52 PM PST by golux
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To: lurked_for_a_decade


We live in a country in which homosexuals have invaded the BSA and are raping our boys,

in which our schools are infested with "pro-trans" messaging,

In which Che and Castro are "heroes,"

in which people of darker skin color have preference in our best schools and jobs...

And you're worried that a men's razor company wants to remind us to treat each other right?

Jeez.


36 posted on 01/19/2019 1:39:22 PM PST by golux
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

If you’re a man
You don’t need to read about how to be one
Work hard
Protect your family
Nurture your children
Be skilled in all wilderness traits
Have tools and know how to use them
Stay in shape
Learn good cooking
Be an expert in massaging your wife
Know mathematics well
Teach the truth
Love


37 posted on 01/19/2019 1:51:28 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: WashingtonFire

Well said, WashingtonFire!


38 posted on 01/19/2019 1:55:20 PM PST by poconopundit
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To: Cobra64

“Wow... the fad for obsessing over the Gillette ad is going viral. Let’s go put on black ski masks, yell at cops, and break Starbucks windows.”

I am going to laugh every time that I think about your post!

ROFL


39 posted on 01/19/2019 1:56:50 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

“It’s a legitimate response and it drives ‘em nuts.”

On occasion I have to use a walker to walk long distances. That usually involves using an elevator. Women see the walker then offer to hold the elevator door for me. I refuse and say, “No, thank you, m’am. You go first. I could not sleep knowing that I did not let a female go first. Besides, I do not want my mother to come up out of the grave and slap me in the back of the head!”

They laugh then walk in or out of the elevator first. ;-)


40 posted on 01/19/2019 2:02:33 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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