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The Ultimate John Kennedy Assassination Theory [Updated]
Janitor's view ^ | May 29, 2018 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 05/29/2018 8:33:59 AM PDT by kathsua

For decades the debate over who killed President John F. Kennedy has involved one group who claims Lee Harvey Oswald did it and another blaming the CIA. They continue to ignore the possibility both claims are correct. The CIA is a spy organization. Some of its agents masquerade as supporters of the enemy so they can get inside enemy organizations.

[A few hours after posting on this subject I thought of a major reason why many of us believe Oswald might have been working for someone else instead of acting on his own. I'll add it as a post script.]

Oswald could easily have been such a covert agent. If so he would have been a logical choice to kill Kennedy. The CIA might have hoped Oswald's apparent support for Cuban President Fidel Castro would cause public opinion to demand retaliation against Castro. Oswald might have planned "to give into" expected intensive interrogation and say the Cuban government had told him to shoot Kennedy.

I don't have any information that Oswald was or wasn't associated with the CIA. Of course the CIA would never admit if he was with the CIA. His previous flirtations with Russia and Cuba might have been efforts to gain information for the CIA. The communists lack of interest in him could have indicated they were suspicious of his motives.

I have always been troubled by the fact that someone with Oswald's background was allowed to be where he was on that fateful day. The previous school year I had done a research paper on the Secret Service. My research indicated that the Secret Service would normally have prevented someone like Oswald from being in a building along the motorcade route.

One fact that wasn't known to the public at the time was that one of the last actions taken by the CIA's predecessor, the OSS, was the killing of General George Patton.

I have no interest in pursuing this theory further I'll leave that decision up to those who are more familiar with the incident than I am.

P.S. We get our beliefs about subjects such as killers from related historical events and from fiction events in television shows and movies. The assassination of John Kennedy didn't fit the pattern of other presidential assassinations and assassination attempts. Presidents Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield and William McKinley were all killed at short range. President Ronald Reagan was shot at short range. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme tried to shoot President Gerald Ford at close range. The Puerto Ricans who attempted to shoot their way into President Harry Truman's residence wanted to get close enough to kill him.

The assassination of Kennedy fits the pattern of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King who was shot by paid killer James Earl Ray from concealment at a distance with a rifle. Oswald shot Kennedy from concealment at a distance with a rifle. On television and in movies professional killers. generally fire at their intended victims from concealment at a distance with a rifle

Typical presidential assassins seem to want people to know what they have done. John Wilkes Booth killed Abraham Lincoln in front of people attending a play. Professional killers usually want to get away with their crimes so they try to avoid being identified


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: assassin; cia; jfk; johnkennedy; kennedy; leeharveyoswald
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To: gunnyg
lotsa pooh-pooh around.....ro each his own.... @PlnetWTF? Trump.45 IF> We Can Keep Him??? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Q, is that you?
41 posted on 05/29/2018 9:21:51 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: treetopsandroofs
Can you prove it wrong? :)

But sure, Dimaggio was angry over losing Monroe to JFK so he acted as the broker.

Seriously I have always felt that Jackie had a hand in it.

Or maybe it was the other way aeound. Maybe Oswald was suppose to shoot Jackie for the sympathy vote, she had already produced an heir and so was no longer needed.

That would explain why JFK insisted that the bulletproof top be left off.

Oswald was just a lousy shot.

42 posted on 05/29/2018 9:24:28 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: trebb

I wouldn’t be surprised. LBJ was a louse.


43 posted on 05/29/2018 9:27:17 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: kathsua
p07
44 posted on 05/29/2018 9:29:10 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That right there tells you enough to know who was involved...lol.


45 posted on 05/29/2018 9:29:25 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Blue House Sue
On the day of the ‘assassination,’ Oswald was aiming a Jackie, but missed.

Nonsense!

Kennedy was shot TWICE. That was on purpose!

46 posted on 05/29/2018 9:29:44 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Sans-Culotte

I was stationed in Germany and heard quite a few of the older soldiers talking about Patton getting the Wermacht to agree to assist in attacking Russia. Equipment had been prepared and units organized because Patton believed that the next step was to take out the USSR before it cold attack the US.

The idea was that he was killed to keep the US from acting on his plan. And Patton’s death was very suspicious.

MacArthur thought we would be going into China, so it was not a far stretch.


47 posted on 05/29/2018 9:32:05 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: C210N

Hah! I knew it.

Something else, the lack of proof is PROOF of how good the cover-up was. . .


48 posted on 05/29/2018 9:32:08 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: kathsua

With a $25 mail order rifle he was able to pull off successive shots in record time (for that weapon) with pinpoint accuracy on a small moving target moving away from him and slightly downhill. Yep, got it.


49 posted on 05/29/2018 9:34:20 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: kathsua
Read Disinformation by Pacepa, the former head of Romania’s Intelligence Bureau, the highest level Soviet spy who defected to the West. He says Oswald was programmed to assassinate so well he couldn’t be turned off. Immediately after JFK was killed the Soviets began a disinformation campaign blaming the CIA. This lie shifted blame away from the Soviets and weakened the perception of the CIA, an intelligence 2-fer.

He also claims Oswald was the source that gave the Soviets the flying height of the U-2 spy planes. This critical information led to the downing of one of them and capture of the pilot.

50 posted on 05/29/2018 9:36:18 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: kathsua

Someone should as Bush about this. Oh, never mind. He doesn’t remember where he was or anything else about that day.


51 posted on 05/29/2018 9:37:22 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: kathsua

“Could, if, might, maybe, might, may have”...blah, blah, blah crap. And no one landed on the moon. Sheesh.


52 posted on 05/29/2018 9:37:45 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: Wallace T.

If you believe that Oswald was a Communist, learned Russian while a Marine in Japan, and then managed to defect to the Soviet Union and return—I have some swamp land I would like to sell you.

He was part of a group of military men (claiming to be defectors) sent by the CIA to spy on the Russians. He gave the Russians info on the U2 spy plane so it could be shot down—and he could establish his bona fides.

Why would the CIA want the U2 shot down? Because Eisenhower was trying to make peace with the Soviets at the time and the military industrial complex did _not_ want that to happen—no money to be made if we are at peace.

Read Eisenhower’s last speech on the military industrial complex—he warned us about the Deep State...

P.S. Oswald _was_ a patsy, just like he said...


53 posted on 05/29/2018 9:37:57 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: pfflier

That’s not a theory, that is pure speculation.

Sounds like most of today’s presidential “news”!


54 posted on 05/29/2018 9:38:06 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: kathsua

It was Jackie who was behind the assassination. She was tired of JFK’s infidelities and Marilyn Monroe’s “Birthday Song’ was too much for her to take.

Johnson provided the button men and Onassis’s money bankrolled the whole operation.

What?

Oh, were you guys serious?


55 posted on 05/29/2018 9:39:36 AM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: bmwcyle
The patsy is very important.

Yep...Interesting choice of words from Oswald.

56 posted on 05/29/2018 9:40:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kathsua; All

Here’s an easier question:

Who did not want to kill JFK ?


57 posted on 05/29/2018 9:40:55 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: Wallace T.

I am not aware of Oswald being homosexual.

we should have asked his wife.


58 posted on 05/29/2018 9:43:56 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Vaquero
And of course former CIA head(of a different era) George HW Bush doesn’t remember where he was the day Kennedy died. That’s a big whoops.

That is too weird. I was like 8 years old and I remember exactly where I was. How could an adult not know where he was on a day like that?!

59 posted on 05/29/2018 9:45:49 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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To: cgbg

Good post. Gotta have a boogie man so “they” can protect us. Lots of people have their fortunes tied to conflict. No question.


60 posted on 05/29/2018 9:47:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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