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Fmr Facebook executive: Society will COLLAPSE within 30 years as robots put half out of work
The Sun ^ | August 4, 2017 | Jasper Hamill

Posted on 08/04/2017 9:41:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Antonio Garcia Martinez fears revolution and armed conflict will erupt in America in the coming decades

A former Facebook executive has quit his job and now lives as a recluse in the wilderness – because he is convinced that machines will take over the world.

Antonio Garcia Martinez worked as a project manager for the social media giant in Silicon Valley but became terrified by the relentless march of technology.

He reckons that machines will have taken half of humanity’s jobs within 30 years, sparking revolt and armed conflict.

So he quit his job, fled his home and now lives in woodland north of Seattle with a gun for protection.

He spoke to new two-part BBC2 documentary “Secrets of Silicon Valley”, which explores the growing influence of the tech hub on global development.

Mr Martinez said: “If the world really does end, there aren’t going to be many places to run.

“Within 30 years, half of humanity won’t have a job. It could get ugly. There could be a revolution.

“I’ve seen what the world will look like in five to 10 years.

"You may not believe it but it's coming, and it's coming in the form of a self-driving truck that's going to run you over.

"There are 300 million guns in this country, one for every man, woman and child, and they're mostly in the hands of those who are getting economically displaced. There could be a revolt.

"You don't realise it but we're in a race between technology and politics, and technologists are winning. They're way ahead.

"They will destroy jobs and disrupt economies before we even react to them and we really should be thinking about that."

He said other ex-Silicon Valley employees had also resigned and were living on land isolated from society because they were equally frightened of what the future held.

Programme host Jamie Bartlett, director of the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media, said: "The tech gods are selling us all a better future but Silicon Valley's promise to build a better world relies on tearing up the world as it is. They call it 'disruption'.

"The mantra of Silicon Valley is that disruption is always good, and through smartphones and digital technology we can create more efficient, more convenient, faster services and everyone wins from that.

"But behind that beautifully designed app or that slick platform there's a quite brutal form of capitalism unfolding and it's leaving some of the poorest people in society behind.

"There's a risk Silicon Valley's promise to build a better world could inflict a nightmare future on millions of us.

"The big secret in Silicon Valley is that the next wave of disruption could tear apart the way capitalism works, and as a result the way we live our lives could be utterly transformed. "

Artificial intelligence pioneer Jeremy Howard said: "People aren't scared enough. "They're saying 'Don't worry about it, there will always be more jobs'.

"And it's founded on this purely historical thing of there has been a revolution before, it was called the Industrial Revolution, and after it there were still enough jobs, therefore this new, totally different, totally unrelated revolution will also have enough jobs.

"It's a ludicrously short-sighted, meaningless argument which incredibly smart people are making."

He said if society did nothing, a "tiny class of society" would own "all of the capital and all of the data and everybody else adds no economic value, is despised by the class that has things because they're worthless" creating "massive social unrest".


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: automation; banglist; cw2; cwii; jobs; preppers; prepping; robots
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To: rightwingcrazy

A socialist society institutionalizes a widely split two class system with only the government clerks being between.


61 posted on 08/04/2017 11:16:19 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would suspect Mr. Martinez has other problems besides fear of the end of the world due to robots. Sounds like he has a severe case of anti-social behavior.

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So, which is going to end the world first? Robot take over or global climate change leading to all land being flooded or global change leading to all the land being frozen?


62 posted on 08/04/2017 11:16:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: cradle of freedom
Working with your hands is for stupid people?

Not necessarily, a lot of jobs involving working with your hands do take a lot of skill and training. But there are a lot of jobs that didn't exactly require a lot of thinking, and those are the jobs that are being replaced.

63 posted on 08/04/2017 11:21:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: arthurus
Just as society “collapsed” in the 17-1800s in England as it industrialized.

If anything, industrialization gave opportunities to the lower classes to make a living. It still required a lot of manpower in those days.

64 posted on 08/04/2017 11:23:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lee martell

For a lot of reasons, I believe the Lord will not wait that long.

I remember as a kid in the 60’s I imagined a utopia where people didn’t have to work at all to get a “living” wage. It would mean people could enjoy life and just work to make any extra money if they wanted more stuff.

Then I realized a few years ago that we have entered that utopia. People that get that Living wage for free are called Welfare Recipients, and they live off welfare, section 8, snap, etc.

It is not utopia.

And if we end up in a world where people get enough to live, but can not be productive, it will be a hell on earth. Though it will seem great at first. Kinda like that 21 year old I saw walk into a liquor store and say, “I’ve died and gone to heaven.”

No. Not really.


65 posted on 08/04/2017 11:24:10 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: rightwingcrazy

Check out the real Rats of NIMH. While the researcher attributed the decline to many things, the one constant was no material lack.

Utopia kills!


66 posted on 08/04/2017 11:34:13 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not the robots that will rule the world, it’s the ones who build (and program) the robots.

The same human greed will still be prevalent, just using nearly invincible robots as their preferred weapon to complete hitler’s quest to take over the world.

So long as greed, laziness, and dumbed down snowflakes are grown and groomed, worker output (thus jobs) will falter. Some one has to do the work, build the cars, etc...it’s will be robots (aka computers with mobility and weapons).


67 posted on 08/04/2017 11:37:29 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: cradle of freedom
First said by Michelangelo while suffering from a terrific back ache.
68 posted on 08/04/2017 11:54:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lee martell

The ultimate communism resolve.


69 posted on 08/04/2017 11:56:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: FrankR

We have “robots” at the Duracell plant where I work. But they are really just automatic crane arms. And they break down or malfunction and so two electricians go have a look. When the “robot” finishes moving battery trays to a pallet and the pallet is full then an old fashioned forklift comes along to move it to the warehouse. All the digital systems, sensors, alarms, and modern stuff breaks down. Murphy’s law still applies.


70 posted on 08/04/2017 11:58:24 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: antidisestablishment

Looks like a good pick for my young’ns. Thanks!


71 posted on 08/04/2017 12:10:39 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone’s watched way too many dystopian movies.


72 posted on 08/04/2017 12:10:49 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: a fool in paradise


Silence! It is time to put the Humans to death!
73 posted on 08/04/2017 12:14:30 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: dfwgator

“Smart people will always have jobs.”

Uh ? Seems that has been proven wrong by Mr.Gates and his like ‘importing brains’ from abroad already...No??

My favorite example to my son was telling him bout going to the architects office for a project and seeing ‘back room’ full of youngsters producing reams of paper prints outs etc etc ...TODAY, no such rooms full of employed young ones...
All done by Mr.Puter now, and he demands nuttin much....


74 posted on 08/04/2017 12:29:08 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: litehaus
Paralegal was gonna be a great career path for the future, but now computers can be programmed to scan through reams and reams of old cases to find information that attorneys need to plead cases.
75 posted on 08/04/2017 5:06:19 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dfwgator

I have an idea: let’s take a large portion of society that accounts for 90% of all crime and criminal activity, give them ample amounts of drugs, little or no actual education, make sure that they have completely abandoned western religion and western values, break up the concept of the nuclear family completely, and then - yank the only jobs they qualify for right out from under them.

Most of these steps are already completed.

awesome fun times ahead.


76 posted on 08/04/2017 8:06:23 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

“Most of these steps are already completed.
awesome fun times ahead.”

See St.Louis, Chicago,Baltimore,Detroit etc etc etc All democrat run for decades, all ready to explode the first week the “food Stamp” computer goes down....


77 posted on 08/05/2017 7:30:23 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: Noamie

Exactly. This is what has me sweating. They go from at least having *something* semi-productive to do and spending *some* of their time not fighting or f*cking to being a 100% drain whose full-time, lifelong ‘career’ is to be trouble.

Keep that up long enough and we’re going to have to choose between culling them like mad dogs, walling ourselves in (AKA gated communities) or something like The Purge for real.


78 posted on 09/12/2017 6:03:03 PM PDT by ALongRoadAhead
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