Posted on 04/01/2017 11:53:28 AM PDT by Trump20162020
New data shows that Ryan's job approval rating has dropped below 50% among both Republicans and Trump voters
The American Health Care Act, the GOP replacement for Obamacare, is — at least for now — just a memory. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan himself has admitted that "Obamacare is the law of the land … for the foreseeable future."
The latest Economist/YouGov Poll suggests that opinions of Ryan and the House Republicans, but not President Trump, have diminished after the GOP-majority House of Representatives failed to vote on the proposed health care legislation. And that loss of support comes almost entirely from Republicans and Trump voters — not Democrats.
Last week, 59% of Republicans and 55% of Trump voters approved of the way Paul Ryan was handling his job as Speaker of the House. This week, approval dropped 12 points among both groups. In fact, as of now, slightly more Trump voters disapprove of Ryan’s performance than approve.
(Excerpt) Read more at today.yougov.com ...
I see you’re still having difficulties with the Cruz loss.
I believe Trump used the HFC as a foil to manipulate Ryan and McConnell now or in the near future.
Trump could lambaste me in the media and I’d be happy with it, as long as it furthered good goals.
If Trump gets even half of his agenda enacted, he’ll be one of the greatest presidents in history.
Desperate to do what? Make Ryan look bad?
The public knows that President Trump’s biggest problem is Paul Ryan, not the Freedom Caucus.This poll proves it.
1)Ryan is bought and paid for by his wife whose estate is worth 6.5 million dollars , she and her family are democrats.
2)Secondly Ryan is bought by the Insurance and Big Pharm Lobbies.In Particular Northwestern Mutual, a Milwaukee-based insurance company that also offers financial services. All but eight of Ryan’s 20 biggest backers are in the financial, insurance, or health sectors, CRP data shows.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/08/14/the-big-money-behind-paul-ryans-political-career
Paul Ryan tried to screw the People on Health Care, and he will keep trying to screw the people on Health Care.He wants massive profits for his backers.The Freedom Caucus stopped Ryan and exposed him to the People and also exposed Ryan’s agenda to President Trump.Ryan does not care one wit for the People.Ryan is a man made by his wife’s fortune, not from his own effort or intelligence, or popular support from the electorate. He bought his way through lobbyists.
President Trump needs to turn that Ryan rig around, or he will become the lamest duck in presidential history.All the president has to do is rely on the People. It wouldn’t take much.
God Bless the Freedom Caucus.
Just as I said last week.
I think you need to go back and re-evaluate your analysis of conservatism. Trump’s first 70 days have been outstanding. He’s been outstandingly conservative and he is more conservative than Reagan. I loved Reagan but in retrospect he was not as conservative as Trump will be. To say Trump is on a scale of HW and Nixon is just lunacy.
Republicans and Independents don’t like the individual mandate
Republicans and Independents don’t like the individual mandate
Republicans and Independents don’t like the individual mandate
Republicans and Independents don’t like the individual mandate
Republicans and Independents don’t like the individual mandate
That’s what this poll means.
The soul of a man can often be transparent.
People know in their heart that Trump is a patriot and doing his best. He doesn’t get everything right but no man does. Humans are fragile and can err, it’s the way it has always been.
The only 3 questions are:
1. Why did Trump hitch his wagon to Lyin’ Ryan knowing he was 100% #nevertrump?
2. Why did Trump support RyanCare aka ObozoCareLite knowing it did NOT repeal and did NOT replace?
3. Will Trump FINALLY walk away from Lyin’ Ryan’s RyanCare and support Mo Brooks’ bill to simply REPEAL and pass a new separate bill to implement Free Market & Tort Reform reforms?
Trump doesn’t play 64D chess
Naah RummyChick informed me Trump plays 38DD chess. ;-)
Would you like what I think are the answers to those questions, or were they just rhetorical?
Given that polls in general are faked all the time and Yougov is no different from the rest this is very good news. Not unexpected but very good nonetheless.
Trump is operating on a different plane, Ryan doesn’t realize Trump set him up. October behavior has consequences.
Do tell.....but why not post your answer in your original post?
Frankly, if Trump wasn’t setting up Ryan to force him to step down as speaker, I’ll be quite disappointed in Trump.
Absolutely!
Just didn’t feel like typing out a more lengthy response if your questions were just rhetorical.
Anyways, here’s what my view is on this:
Trump is a businessman, and as such, he knows that you have to deal with people that you don’t agree with, don’t like, and sometimes may even loathe in order to get the job done.
In business, one of the dominant strategies is known as Tough but Fair. That is, as long as the other factions cooperate, you cooperate, and then whatever they do to you, you do back to them afterwards. Trump has been in business for a long time, and I’ll bet that he’s so seeped in this kind of thing that it’s natural for him.
And despite the fact that Ryan and his ilk are proposing really stupid legislation, they’re still being outwardly cooperative. In Tough but Fair business strategy, the proper tactic when dealing with these, even if you hate them and they hate you, is to outwardly cooperate with them too, because compromise instead of confrontation is the best way to move your own agenda forward.
As for the Freedom Caucus, they weren’t playing the proverbial game in a cooperative manner, but were instead being confrontational and so according to the strategy, it’s best to be confrontational back.
(I posted a vanity about this a few days ago. If you feel like reading it, I can link you.)
So if Trump is doing what I think he’s doing, then he believes that the best way to get Obamacare repealed is to do compromises and get it repealed bit by bit with each iteration of the bill that comes before Congress. But if he’s outwardly confrontational with Ryan and the RINOs before they’re outwardly confrontational with him, he loses a lot of leverage to force compromises out of them.
I imagine that he knows well that they’re trying to sabotage him, but that he believes that the best way to get as much as he can done is to outwardly cooperate while wearing a proverbial kevlar vest for the inevitable backstab attempt.
"So if Trump is doing what I think he’s doing, then he believes that the best way to get Obamacare repealed is to do compromises and get it repealed bit by bit with each iteration of the bill"
I disagree.
As a former officer in a $400M corp (construction company that built office towers and interstate highways) who reported directly to the chairman and currently an entrepreneur with business partners in Europe and Far East, I understand Trump's business skills and tactics.
Trump, at the very least, miscalculated and trusted Lyin' Ryan a bit too much. His continued attacks on the HFC was a mistake. Bigly!
It is HIGHLY unlikely the "bit-by-bit" repeal would ever occur - i.e. "Step2 and Step3" - it's all talk and no action.
If Trump REALLY wants to repeal ObozoCare, simply have Ryan/McConnell pass Mo Brooks' bill that repealed the whole mess.
EFF ANYBODY who doesn’t just want a STRAIGHT REPEAL.
Like the republicans voted for 50 times before play time was over and they were the majority.
I Love Trump but this isn’t TrumpRepublic.
It’s FreeRepublic
As in freedom from federal overreach and for being FOR the constitution/state power.
Don’t remember the “healthcare for all” part in the constitution.
Nor is it listed as a right.
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