Posted on 06/27/2016 10:47:22 AM PDT by Talisker
Edited on 06/27/2016 11:20:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I was verbally assaulted - and “assaulted” is, I think, the proper word here - by a middle-aged female Hillary supporter yesterday. It was quite a remarkable experience, like witnessing someone having a psychotic break, complete with rolling eyes, waving hands, rapid wall-talking, fantastical discussion positions and plenty of snarling personal insults - all while I barely said a word except to indicate, initially, that I was a Trump supporter.
I thought about it for a long time afterwards, because she was truly bat**** crazy, yet gave no indication of it until she suddenly shifted the discussion to politics.
And I’ve come to believe that what I was seeing in her behavior is best described by the word “panic.” She was literally acting out panic. Whatever she is a part of, that is linked to supporting Hillary, KNOWS the Bitch is going down. And so, the general feeling amongst her secret sorority is the level of alarm that hits when people realize that their entire building is on fire. She wasn’t just “supporting” Hillary - she was demanding, beseeching, pleading, raging and commanding I support Hillary, flying from talking point to talking point so fast I had no time for comment, nor did she care if I did. And all the while, she repeatedly claimed to "hate" Hillary.
Something very, very weird is going on. I saw it with my own eyes today. The rank and file are starting to panic. I would say that she actually wasn’t all that far from becoming violent - and at the same time, she would have been hardly aware of being so. This was not a normally demonstrative woman, yet she hadn’t a clue as to how completely out of control she had become - nor any idea that I was literally backing up as she ranted.
I predict ever increasing meltdowns as the months go by. I don’t advise arguing - just get away. Eventually, these people WILL become dangerous.
ADDENDUM: I've re-posted the above thread reply as a thread because I've realized I was looking at a trained technique, as well as panic. The woman I was witnessing was, and has been, a longtime Hillary supporter. But she was openly and emphatically stating she "hated" Hillary - but was going to vote for her. She claimed that she "loved Bernie," but now that he lost, Trump is so vile, so despicable, that she is "forced" to vote for Hillary even though she "hates" her, and - get this - anyone who is conflicted over Bernie losing, or Trump as the GOP candidate, SHOULDN'T VOTE AT ALL.
This is pretty extraordinary, not even counting the outrageous rudeness of it. It's an extremely calculated message, created by political and psychological analysists, and then dumped into soundbite traing sessions for common liberal idiots to regurgitate by the millions. Hillary's people know she is loathed, even by Democrats and especially by Berniebots, so first of all, her supporters are told NOT to openly support her. But they also know that millions of republicans don't like Trump. So what they've come up with is basically a reversal of what is actually going on - millions will vote for Trump to stop Hillary, because she will destroy the country and is simply not acceptable for any reason, not even mentioning all the vast crimes she dragging around. So - that's what they accuse Trump of. And they hit all of his strengths - he's not a busness success, but a failed businessman. The wall won't work and can't be financed. Muslims are being enraged by hims and so he's causing terrorism. Everything reversed, and logic and reality be damned. But, at the same time, nothing is ever said about Hillary, NOT by defending her, but rather by claiming to HATE her, and dismiss her.
Pretty slick, eh? They never have to defend Hillary. They just reject her, hate her, but dump tons and tons of slander on Trump, defend none of it (because they are merely listing talking points they've memorized). I was told, for example, that the Great Wall of China "proves" that the Mexican wall could never work. What?! But then motormouth moved on to the next "point," rapidfire. Because what they are trained to do is a braindump - NOT a discussion, and NEVER a defense of Hillary. What they do is work themselves into a yelling froth against Trump, wistfully weep for Bernie, profess hatred for Hillary and then... then... conclude that they have two choices "forced" on them - to not vote at all, or vote "against" Trump by voting for Hillary. Both of which, of course, serving Hillary's purposes, depending on who they are talking to.
And if you indicate you've read up on issues, you will be immediately rejected. Finally, for example, I made a comment to refute one of her talking points with some deeper facts and knowledge, specifically that Trump was NOT, in fact a "racist and misogynist." Rather, I said that he pointed where people claimed their own race as backing for their actions, and he specifically decried cultures which enslave women as property. She immediately stopped, gazed at me and then said, "well, if you're a Fox News Republican, I can't talk to you" - and suddenly walked away!
Now, I'm not a Fox News anything, nor Republican, really, given that the entire party has been outed as RINOs. But that's not the point - her phrase, "Fox News Republican" is what THEY are trained to call anyone who has accessed and considered Non-Democrat-Approved Media. And of course, that means such people can recognize their bullshit AS bullshit, and so the entire screed, acting job and effort is pointless.
So, in such cases, they are taught to dehumanize such people, and they do it in two ways - 1st, LABEL them. It's an Alinsky tactic to create the "other" as against the "group." 2nd - REJECT them, utterly, completely, suddenly and totally. And lest you think I'm being overly dramatic here, this is exactly the first two stages of what communist countries use before they actually destroy human beings - the third stage, of course, being arrest and/or simply being killed. Read up on Soviet Russia and China - this is no exaggeration. It's just that it's never been deplayed by the millions here, so Americans aren't used to recognizing what they are seeing. But conservative who comes across one of these members of "Hillary's Army" will have no doubt that that person could, and would, easily send them to a concentration camp if they had the power. No doubt at all - because they WANT you to know it. To them, you're either IN, or OUT, and they want to know, RIGHT NOW, which one you are.
Even without the final stage, though, it's a psychologically brutal tactic, even from someone I found revolting, because it's a sudden and dramatically enacted effect that is derived from the tactic itself. I'm telling you, these people are TRAINED by real bastards - and they are dedicated as any Chekist ever was. In fact, EXACTLY as Chekists were, which is why Eastern Europeans shudder at what they're seeing here.
And that's why I'm writing this - because this is ALL calculated stuff, folks. So don't be fooled by the wild-eyed maniac in front of you - they've sat in training sessions. They've memorized talking points and practiced their deliveries. Yes, her. Yes, him. The mild-mannered neighbor, the casual acquaintance, the workers you know, family members - all of them. THIS is how Hillary's money is being used: mind and behavior control.
With one exception - right now, they are afraid. Something is wrong, and they feel it, and they know it, because their handlers, their trainers, their superiors are SCARED. And so THEY are scared, too - even, as I observed, panicked. Because Hillary was never, ever supposed to face Trump, or anyone like Trump, ever. And while they are all getting as dirty as they can, they are still scared, because they have to fight now - for real. And that wasn't supposed to happen - ever.
So walk away from them. Don't engage. In THEIR minds they are cornered animals and YOU are threatening them just by existing. Yes, that is madness. But that is what they are - insane.
The Brexit vote in the UK was NOT primarily about leaving the EU. It shows how much control their media has over their population. It was a clear vote to never have a meaningful election again in politics.
They where able to get 48% of the vote based on media driving their fears. They where shocked they didn't get the majority.
This is why they import voters voters legally and illegally. The media control is weakening and these people vote with them.
I have a mild learning defect. A disability, almost.
Simply put, I am sorta retarded in certain areas, like interpersonal communication, and complex concepts.
However, there is one thing I can do, and do passably. The 5-7-5 pattern known as the haiku.
It’s short, it’s pithy, and I can usually fit the entire thought into 3 lines. However, all that art stuff found in real, actualy Japanese haikus are lost on me.
I went to public school.
Yes, and pointing out that Islam teaches Muslims to murder people causes terrorism because otherwise they'd be peaceful like us.
No, liberals and leftists are NOT like "us." They DO hate America, they DO sit in on training sessions, they DO group practice talking points, and they ARE led by people trained not only in mind control techniques, but very specific mind control techniques developed in Soviet Bloc countries and China, to the detriment and loss of lives of millions of people. NO, we are not "all the same." NO, being all "human" is NOT enough. Your lack of understanding of psychology, of history, and of communism is shameful. We want freedom, THEY want US DEAD. And they can and do SAY SO - this isn't a "conspiracy theory." A hundred million dead people in communist countries are screaming "BEWARE" from their graves. Mock that if you dare - I don't. Because what we are seeing in America now, from liberals, is how it started in their countries, too.
So NO, conservatives are NOT like liberals, an they DON'T argue the same way. In fact, the approach of liberals and conservatives to political discussions are diametrically opposed in procedure, not just content. And those liberals who have sat in on training sessions are mimicked - on purpose, consciously and deliberately - by other liberals, because liberals are addicted to group acceptance. They literally do not care what the facts are, they only care that the position statements they are spouting are the current accepted group position statements. Conservatives have political opinons. Liberals have their collectivist secular religion - only part of which is fronting political talking points.
Your efforts to normalize the two sides are nothing less than an attempt to keep hidden what I wrote to expose. It is exactly the same thing as telling people Muslims are the same as us in appreciating the preciousness of life and freedom. Liberals are just as addicted to obedience as Muslims, except they worship - worship - political gods such as Obama and Hillary, rather than Allah. But like Muslims, history has shown that their single, unifying belief is that all unbelievers must be killed. And history has also shown that they can and will commit those murders by the hundreds of millions. And THAT comes from how they THINK - which is exactly what I am talking about - and what you are in denial about.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AS US: THEY WANT US DEAD.
The only way to stop the insanity is to ignore or contain it. If it becomes violent stop it, hard.
I am a red neck
Hillary is a green neck
So we disagree
Leftys committing suicide? Is that reall a bad thing?
Ok if you say so...
No, you said so by decontextualizing my quote.
Who are you working for, soldier?
And do you really believe they'll protect you?
Read up on some history of that.
My father is horrible at interpersonal communication he had a hard time with complex concepts. He was exceptional with details. Sounds as though the issue is based on something from the left side of the brain.
Bravo! It is what I keep saying. There are camps in our future, to be sure. We just have to decide which side of the fence we are gonna be on.
Lets take something that should be obvious to anyone. They claimed after WWII that National Socialism had nothing to do with Socialism. Or today they're claiming Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
How could any thinking mind persom come to the conclusion that Islam has nothing to do with Islam unless you're being manipulated?
I would love to hear an answer for that.
“Frick” brother of “Frack”
Watches his back, snickety snack
Going for gold that’s black ;)
I'm (trying to, failing many times) work for Jesus Christ.
He isn't the most important thing.
He's the only "thing" the only answer to all of this mess. And every single person on this planet, liberal or conservative American or non American has the exact same infinite desire for Him. He is thus the only solution for everyone's desires, because every one is a human being created in the image and likeness of God thus created with an infinite desire for Him. This desire always ends up getting twisted into a desire for other, temporal things first. Not that temporal things are bad but when out before God, as always happens when we dehumanize our "opponents", the proper order of things is perverted, and no one ever "wins"
Until and unless we all come to see this reality we will always fail. We always fail without Christ. We always fail when we put Him aside, in any situation, any discussion, and rely on our own ideas our own plans to solve a problem or "win" a debate. He should be front and center in every aspect of reality because reality (or objective data, from the word "datum" which means something given) is something given by God for our benefit. Thus only when we can not only see Christ in every situation but invite Him in to be the ruler of every NANOsecond of the day, we will fail. Period.
This is how I fail many times, by trying to "win" arguments instead of inviting Christ into situations. I fail when I dehumanize those who disagree with me (on any subject) instead of recognizing they are just like me with the same desire for Christ; the only difference (sometimes) being they haven't met Him. The true starting point isn't facts or figures but getting someone to recognize their true human nature, which is a desire for Christ. Once someone can recognize that the rest falls into line.
I'm not any better than anyone. I just know what I wrote above is fact. And this is all I've been saying to you (just in different words)
Bingo.
Few really rest in such an explanation, however, but it is spiritual. We were warned. Where is it, in Luke 24, or was it 23? We don’t win this battle. At least in any earthly sense. We are graced to recognize it, though.
Fabulous ending, there. Great little story. Thanks.
What does that mean? Haiku? A hiatus from kooks?
Lets use Islam since it has been a proven manipulator of peoples minds.
First you and I have to agree they been manipulated.
No rightful minded person can simply disagree with executing a rape victim. Which means they're clearly manipulated. right?
Since Islam are manipulating people and have done it for 1400 years. Their methods are working. Which means it can be done in more subtle ways using the media and our schools
General prophetic chapters in the Synoptic Gospels are Mark 13, Luke chapters 17 and 21 and Matthew chapter 24.
For those looking at the prophecies of Daniel - Chapters 9, 11 and 12 are quite significant. Specifically 9:26-27 and 11:34-39 really stand out to me.
For those looking at the Revelation (no ‘s’) of Jesus Christ, chapters 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, and 19 are coming up. Though chapter 12 is a summation of history and future.
Yes million are manipulated by worldly systems not just Islamic fundamentalism but as you said the godless public schools etc.
My only objection has been that suggesting this is some conscious effort by some cabal of “mind control” classes or something deliberately organized like that.
There is brain washing of course but done on a subconscious level, by people to whom Christ is NOT first. That is my point the solution is not to replace leftist brainwashing with our own brainwashing no matter how well-intentioned. The “solution” is Christ, period He’s not the best solution or the most important He’s the ONLY SOLUTION.
Step ONE in inviting Christ in, in making Him ruler of every situation no mater how seemingly banal, is to recognize that He is the desire of everyone you meet. Every one you disagree with has the exact same desire as you do (which is a desire for Him) only in starting with this reality first can any real “change” be effected otherwise He is just another worldly idea to be thrown on the scrap heap of argument. If every person you meet isn’t as human to you as you are to yourself He will never be a solution, because that’s what He came to do, He came to save everyone not just Republicans. He came to save human beings from their own fallen humanity, this is the only solution this is the only thing that will work. Not claiming that the “opposing side” are mindless automatons bent on worldly domination.
Okay, I’ll take you at face value.
But dehumanization is not merely the act of disagrement, or anger at someone. And I certainly did not dehumanize liberals by describing how THEY dehumanize people they disagree with. This isn’t a subtle point - liberals have become notorious for foul-mouthed, threatening and delighted and indulged in overt dehumanization behaviors against people, mainly conservatives, who are striving to find some way to have a legitimate, respecful conversation with them - and they’ve done it mockingly and in full knowledge. For many, many years now. And the result has literally ripped millions of families apart - just as they were told to do by their trainers. It’s no accident.
As well, the specific tactics of dehumanization, as practiced in communist countries and as having resulted in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people, have been carefully studied at every level. These formalized dehumanization tactics exist. They operate according to known paterrns of human behavior and response. And they are taught, just as the operation of any weapon is taught, to political supporters and allies. In other words, these leftist dehumanization tactics are objectively self-contained, and do not, in any way, consist of mere emotional dislike or anger or argument - they are much, much more effective than that, and focused towards a specific and horrifying ulterior motive.
So what does any of this have to do with working for Jesus Christ? Does Jesus command us to deny the truth of evil? To refuse to address it, to refuse to label it, to refuse to discuss it for what it is, to describe its operations? To turn a blind eye towards those who have decided to destroy us, to destroy their country, to betray their own families? Of course not.
Things have progressed in this country during the Obama years to a very serious level - and Hillary is trying to crank it up to the final level. Hillary and Obama ARE trained operatives. Real ones, with a massive support system behind them and billions of dollars. What do you think a “Community Organizer” DOES? Why WOULDN’T such operatives use time-tested communist “revolution” tactics to bring down this country?
It’s time to take the blinders off. Hillary doesn’t intend to be president - she intends to finish off America. And this isn’t dehumanizing hyperbole, either. She is stating she will get rid of our borders and completely gut the 2nd Amendment - administratively deny it from the level of the White House. She openly supports gun confiscation. She has already opened up all of the government’s top secrets at the level of Secretary of State to the entire world - all of our enemies. So where is the exaggeration here? Is it dehumanizing to point these things out? Is it dehumanizing to point out that these are the actions of an enemy of the country? Where is that an exaggeration? What part of Jesus’ teachings would stop this information from being acknowledged?
Wake up.
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