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To: Talisker
Who are you working for, soldier?

I'm (trying to, failing many times) work for Jesus Christ.

He isn't the most important thing.

He's the only "thing" the only answer to all of this mess. And every single person on this planet, liberal or conservative American or non American has the exact same infinite desire for Him. He is thus the only solution for everyone's desires, because every one is a human being created in the image and likeness of God thus created with an infinite desire for Him. This desire always ends up getting twisted into a desire for other, temporal things first. Not that temporal things are bad but when out before God, as always happens when we dehumanize our "opponents", the proper order of things is perverted, and no one ever "wins"

Until and unless we all come to see this reality we will always fail. We always fail without Christ. We always fail when we put Him aside, in any situation, any discussion, and rely on our own ideas our own plans to solve a problem or "win" a debate. He should be front and center in every aspect of reality because reality (or objective data, from the word "datum" which means something given) is something given by God for our benefit. Thus only when we can not only see Christ in every situation but invite Him in to be the ruler of every NANOsecond of the day, we will fail. Period.

This is how I fail many times, by trying to "win" arguments instead of inviting Christ into situations. I fail when I dehumanize those who disagree with me (on any subject) instead of recognizing they are just like me with the same desire for Christ; the only difference (sometimes) being they haven't met Him. The true starting point isn't facts or figures but getting someone to recognize their true human nature, which is a desire for Christ. Once someone can recognize that the rest falls into line.

I'm not any better than anyone. I just know what I wrote above is fact. And this is all I've been saying to you (just in different words)

73 posted on 06/27/2016 12:44:59 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
said, "I fail when I dehumanize those who disagree with me"

Lets use Islam since it has been a proven manipulator of peoples minds.

First you and I have to agree they been manipulated.
No rightful minded person can simply disagree with executing a rape victim. Which means they're clearly manipulated. right?

Since Islam are manipulating people and have done it for 1400 years. Their methods are working. Which means it can be done in more subtle ways using the media and our schools

77 posted on 06/27/2016 12:57:54 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: FourtySeven

Okay, I’ll take you at face value.

But dehumanization is not merely the act of disagrement, or anger at someone. And I certainly did not dehumanize liberals by describing how THEY dehumanize people they disagree with. This isn’t a subtle point - liberals have become notorious for foul-mouthed, threatening and delighted and indulged in overt dehumanization behaviors against people, mainly conservatives, who are striving to find some way to have a legitimate, respecful conversation with them - and they’ve done it mockingly and in full knowledge. For many, many years now. And the result has literally ripped millions of families apart - just as they were told to do by their trainers. It’s no accident.

As well, the specific tactics of dehumanization, as practiced in communist countries and as having resulted in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people, have been carefully studied at every level. These formalized dehumanization tactics exist. They operate according to known paterrns of human behavior and response. And they are taught, just as the operation of any weapon is taught, to political supporters and allies. In other words, these leftist dehumanization tactics are objectively self-contained, and do not, in any way, consist of mere emotional dislike or anger or argument - they are much, much more effective than that, and focused towards a specific and horrifying ulterior motive.

So what does any of this have to do with working for Jesus Christ? Does Jesus command us to deny the truth of evil? To refuse to address it, to refuse to label it, to refuse to discuss it for what it is, to describe its operations? To turn a blind eye towards those who have decided to destroy us, to destroy their country, to betray their own families? Of course not.

Things have progressed in this country during the Obama years to a very serious level - and Hillary is trying to crank it up to the final level. Hillary and Obama ARE trained operatives. Real ones, with a massive support system behind them and billions of dollars. What do you think a “Community Organizer” DOES? Why WOULDN’T such operatives use time-tested communist “revolution” tactics to bring down this country?

It’s time to take the blinders off. Hillary doesn’t intend to be president - she intends to finish off America. And this isn’t dehumanizing hyperbole, either. She is stating she will get rid of our borders and completely gut the 2nd Amendment - administratively deny it from the level of the White House. She openly supports gun confiscation. She has already opened up all of the government’s top secrets at the level of Secretary of State to the entire world - all of our enemies. So where is the exaggeration here? Is it dehumanizing to point these things out? Is it dehumanizing to point out that these are the actions of an enemy of the country? Where is that an exaggeration? What part of Jesus’ teachings would stop this information from being acknowledged?

Wake up.


80 posted on 06/27/2016 1:15:37 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: FourtySeven

Beautifully stated. Thank you.
I hope Jesus wants me to protect myself from nutjobs, because I plan to do that if I ever need to.
If someone would ever hurt my family, I don’t know what I would do, but I’m fairly certain it would be illegal. I hope Jesus will guide me if that situation ever occurs. I doubt it will but things happening in the USA are much bigger then a disagreement among voters.
Jesus is long gone from our public, our schools and workplaces. This is on purpose, and it has me greatly concerned.
I blame the hippies.


82 posted on 06/27/2016 1:22:22 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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