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Their argument: ‘We must marry the same sex to each other because gays can’t control their feelings’
me | 3/10/2015 | SOL

Posted on 03/10/2015 9:17:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Why are so many conservatives, not just Republicans but I mean social-conservatives, unable to form communicate a coherent argument against this logic in interviews and debates?

The latest was Ben Carson’s meltdown where he was asked on CNN if being gay was ‘a choice’ and he replied absolutely, then he offered up prisoners who engage in same sex as his example, then later repudiated and apologized for his response, Ben Carson :
I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended”

I mean just because some small fraction of Americans have sexual desires or ‘feelings’ (that sounds so much more sensitive) that differ from the majority’s(us) ; why do we have to be forced to change our behavior to make it look normal and validate it(against our wills) .

A perfect example is Christian bakers and wedding photographers forced to certify gay weddings with their services which is a result of gay weddings for marriage’s in many states forced upon them by liberal judges.

The whole premise is because they ‘feel’ differently than we feel, we must change OUR behavior.

Why cant those like Ben Carson who disagree with gay marriage form a coherent argument against this?


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: gay; gays; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; samesexmarriage; ssm
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To: sickoflibs

This crap is moving very fast. I half expect that in a not very long time all marriages to be legally valid will have to have an LGBT component.


41 posted on 03/10/2015 11:00:33 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: arthurus
RE :”This crap is moving very fast. I half expect that in a not very long time all marriages to be legally valid will have to have an LGBT component.”

NAW,,,,More likely, churches will be forced to marry same sex couples.

42 posted on 03/10/2015 11:02:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

That will come on the way.


43 posted on 03/10/2015 11:05:50 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: sickoflibs

No, not everyone has to be a Christian to oppose homosexual behavior. That is not what I said. I suspect Thomas Jefferson was not a Christian. Certainly, Ben Franklin was not. But, the preponderance of the citizenry has to acknowledge that we need some kind of moral foundation from which to craft law. And, the original foundation was the Scriptures of the Torah, w’nebiim, w’kethubim and the letters and books of the New Testament. Without these, you will have a hard time arguing with Muslims that their Koran is not the US Standard. Nor the wiccans, nor the Scientologists, nor the Flying Spaghetti Machine group.

The reason that PETA is incorrect is that they do not accept the view of Scripture that animals are here specifically for us to eat. They are not be revered, they do not possess spirits, they are not equivalent to humans. PETA is using their “feelings”, just as you are, since you have no real reason to argue back with them. I do. I am arguing that they are categorically wrong because they ignore the clear statements of the foundation of truth...the Scriptures.


44 posted on 03/10/2015 11:14:07 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
RE:” No, not everyone has to be a Christian to oppose homosexual behavior. That is not what I said......But, the preponderance of the citizenry has to acknowledge that we need some kind of moral foundation from which to craft law.”

You are making a case for Sharia law.

Are you Mus-Islam by chance? I am NOT.

45 posted on 03/10/2015 11:16:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: SaxxonWoods
Just wait until gay marriage has gone on for a decade. The divorce rate will be hysterical to behold.

And a lot of divorce lawyers are going to be very very rich.

46 posted on 03/10/2015 11:18:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sickoflibs

What I’m saying is “don’t answer the fools in their folly”.

Arguing about what’s best for society is getting down in the pig wallow with them.

The way to handle this is to outright accuse them.
They don’t give a hoot about homos. Not at all.
Homos are just a convenient means to the left’s real goal of criminalizing Christianity,
so that they can fulfill their wet dream of
using the power of the state to punish and exterminate
their political opposition.


47 posted on 03/10/2015 11:20:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sickoflibs
"Are you Mus-Islam by chance? I am NOT."

The same blindness that has overwhelmed the US has overwhelmed you. If you believe I am a Muslim, you cannot read plain English, my FRiend

48 posted on 03/10/2015 11:21:09 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
RE :”The same blindness that has overwhelmed the US has overwhelmed you. If you believe I am a Muslim, you cannot read plain English, my FRiend “

Do you kill your daughters for their honor because Allah says?

I don't agree with doing that.

49 posted on 03/10/2015 11:23:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg

I can confirm some of your points from firsthand experience.

The two “married” poofs I know are ALWAYS going to this doctor or that doctor. I don’t ask for what because I don’t care, I’ll most likely get ill listening to details and I can pretty much figure it out anyways.

They (supposedly) cut down in their drinking as well. I can hold my booze (not that I get blitzed that often, I don’t), but either one of those two could make me look like a rookie sipping their first beer.

Even if you were to subtract out their plague, you can see the other lifestyle choices poofs indulge in that kill them off quicker than normal/semi normal people, as STB pointed out.


50 posted on 03/10/2015 11:24:05 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: MrB
RE :”arguing about what’s best for society is getting down in the pig wallow with them.”

That's the same sort of logic that got us Obama for two terms, its surrender.

51 posted on 03/10/2015 11:25:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg
RE :”Even if you were to subtract out their plague, you can see the other lifestyle choices poofs indulge in that kill them off quicker than normal/semi normal people, as STB pointed out.”

is it possible that Obamacare could make them healthier?
Or do we have to ban sugar drinks?

52 posted on 03/10/2015 11:27:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

You must have missed the next line of my post.
I don’t see how you could have gotten “surrender” out of my post.

Do you understand Proverbs 26:4-5?


53 posted on 03/10/2015 11:28:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sickoflibs

Both!

/s


54 posted on 03/10/2015 11:34:58 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I am for banning anything that is even suspected to hurt any minority group through their VOLUNTARY use no matter how small the group is...... even five

After all we know that political ads force people to change their votes, clearly we have no free will and need protection from ourselves....

OHH, except for voting, abortions and gay marriage, those are rights....


55 posted on 03/10/2015 11:39:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Dutchboy88

I am pretty sure animals feel some pain. But then again, I end an animal’s life pretty #$%^# fast before I eat them.


56 posted on 03/10/2015 11:41:59 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg

Every conservative is a

1) racist

2) sexist

3) homophobe.

Next....


57 posted on 03/10/2015 11:42:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: sickoflibs

Preaching to the choir, FRiend!


58 posted on 03/10/2015 12:10:31 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs

Even liberal sex therapist Dr. Ruth admits that the ass was designed for output only.


59 posted on 03/10/2015 12:37:08 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

LOL!


60 posted on 03/10/2015 12:38:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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