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Darwinists Wrong Again on Human Evolution
The Christian Diarist ^ | August 16, 2012 | JP

Posted on 08/16/2012 9:41:05 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Paging Nicholas Wade. He’s the New York Times science writer who worships at the altar of Darwinism.

Two years ago, he reported that biologists, led by Svante Paabo of Germany’s Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, had determined that Neanderthals mated with modern humans.

That “scientific” finding provided a convenient explanation for what happened to humanity’s supposed ancestor: We interbred with them until they disappeared.

Now comes a new study, reported this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, that the finding reported by Wade, were wrong. There was no mating, no “hybridization,” between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens (us).

The study’s authors, Andrea Manica and Anders Eriksson, scientists with the Evolutionary Ecology Group at Britain’s Cambridge University, say that modern humans have no Neanderthal DNA.

Whatever DNA modern humans and Neanderthals share in common came not from interbreeding, the scientists concluded, but from a common, unknown ancestor (a chimpanzee, maybe?).

This is a stunning scientific turnabout in the prevailing wisdom about human evolution. Yet Wade has yet to weigh in on what it all means.

Are we never to know what happened to Neanderthals? Shall we never discover the “missing link,” proving that man evolved from monkey?

Could the proponents of “intelligent design” actually be right, that man did not begin existence as a simple, one-cell organism in this planet’s primordial ooze, but as the fully-formed creation of Almighty God?

Of course, Wade is not going to concede anything to those of us who dare to question his god, Darwin.

He sneers, “To many biologists and others (meaning enlightened journalists like Wade himself), it is a source of amazement and embarrassment that many Americans repudiate Darwin’s theory and that some even espouse counter-theories like creationism or intelligent design.”

“How,” he asks, “can such willful ignorance thrive in today’s seas of knowledge?”

Wade’s attack on evolution doubters, like yours truly, is nothing new for the New York Times.

All the way back in 1906, the “Gray Lady,” as the Times is affectionately known in some quarters, published an editorial supporting a decision by the Bronx Zoo to put an African pygmy named Ota Benga on display in its Monkey House – a putative live exhibit of human evolution..

“We do not quite understand all the emotion which others are expressing in the matter,” the Times harrumphed. “It is absurd to make moan over the imagined humiliation and degradation Benga is suffering. The pygmies … are very low in the human scale.”

The Times was wrong on human evolution then. And its pro-Darwin reporting is no less wrong today.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: evolution; intelligentdesign; media; neanderthal; notasciencetopic; ntsa; realscience; truescience
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To: allmendream

My sources says YES, in recently divergent species, this works (they believe) exceptionally well to keep species separated. Read more closely.


41 posted on 08/16/2012 1:52:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Horses and donkeys produce mules. Mules do not reproduce, but they are useful animals and men keep breeding them. Let’s imagine that, thousands of years from now, no one remembers how mules were made, and all the records were lost from our glorious technological age.

Mules appear to have been around for quite a while, and then, for some reason, disappeared.... Will scientists of that time say that mules look to be the common ancestor of horses and donkeys in the evolutionary chain?

I’m just wondering if Neanderthals were “mules” of a sort. I know, I know. It’s a stretch, but I’ve always wondered if man and apes got together at some point.

“When all logical possibilities have been eliminated, whatever remains, no matter how illogical, must be the truth.” - Spock

I hate to light a fire and run, but I’m going on vacation in an hour - gotta go.


42 posted on 08/16/2012 1:57:21 PM PDT by HeadOn (With my last breath, I will pull the lever against the liberals. NEVER GIVE UP.)
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To: allmendream
The theory of evolution through natural selection, and the theory of common descent of species both are quite satisfactory in this regard.

Indeed - but not necessarily the answer - eh?
8^)

43 posted on 08/16/2012 2:07:12 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: jonno

They are currently the ONLY useful scientific answer.

Until a more useful model replaces them - they are the ‘working model’; and they explain and help to predict a ton of useful information.


44 posted on 08/16/2012 2:50:13 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: muawiyah
They would help keep the species separated, just as the fact that mules are (usually) infertile helps to keep donkey and horse species separate.

But it would NOT in ANY way shape or form - prevent the production of a hybrid ‘mule’ between the species. A sterile mule is a dead end that cannot ‘blend’ the two species (like coyote and wolf hybrids can and do blend the two species).

In a male - meiosis doesn't even take place until adulthood - so how could a barrier to successful meiosis in a hybrid prevent the production of a viable hybrid? Answer - it could not.

45 posted on 08/16/2012 2:55:20 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream; jonno
Until a more useful model replaces them - they are the ‘working model’; and they explain and help to predict a ton of useful information.

Ha ha ha ha. Look at virtually any paper in molecular biology and you'll find only the merest genuflection toward evolution. It's function is mostly that of the shibboleth or a commonplace reference point one uses to assure oneself that one is in the proper orientation with the rest of the community, even though such references points back through the past 150 years are so radically different that anyone in previous times would regard those of later eras to be fanciful and even heretical and those of the current era to claim that there is no way real scientists believed anything so ludicrous in times past and that bringing it up now is just a lame attempt to discredit the general idea which has been such a cornerstone, not just of biology, but of all science (and that's pretty funny, too).
46 posted on 08/16/2012 3:05:13 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

The papers I read in molecular biology use evolution to explain and predict useful information all the time. They are the ONLY useful and scientific explanations for the data.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 4:09:05 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: aruanan

The papers I read in molecular biology use evolution to explain and predict useful information all the time. They are the ONLY useful and scientific explanations for the data.


48 posted on 08/16/2012 4:09:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream; Hayride
Just because you are apparently unable to understand

I think he just Alinsky'd you.

49 posted on 08/16/2012 5:30:54 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: allmendream
The nature of science is extrapolation. The weights dropped by Galileo off the tower of Pisa were not said to be relevant only to those weights at that location - but extrapolated into a system whereby one could accurately predict the rate at which ANY object would fall at ANY location

The extrapolation to "ANY location" includes the moon and Mars right?

50 posted on 08/16/2012 5:34:15 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: allmendream
Actually I can do better than my last question.

haven’t looked at or for the evidence doesn’t make it nonexistent or missing or fraudulent. Look at the university library at the volumes of the publication “Evolution” alone ... The nature of science is extrapolation."

Your implication is that the evidence is the existence of the books on evolution. So may I extrapolate the existence of 100s of thousands of books in the library make them evidence of their fact too?

51 posted on 08/16/2012 5:55:26 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: SwankyC

According to the system it could be predicted that each would fall at the same rate as the other, but slower than on earth. F=ma^2.


52 posted on 08/16/2012 5:58:15 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SwankyC

Wrong. My implications is that if he thinks we are not “drowning “ in information on the subject it is because he has FAILED to look.


53 posted on 08/16/2012 6:07:19 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SwankyC

Wrong. My implications is that if he thinks we are not “drowning “ in information on the subject it is because he has FAILED to look.


54 posted on 08/16/2012 6:07:56 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
Wrong. My implications is that if he thinks we are not “drowning “ in information on the subject it is because he has FAILED to look.

I was trying to more eloquently say that the existence of the information doesn't automatically mean it's worth more than the paper it's printed on. In the end, macroevolution is nothing beyong hypothesis, theory and extrapolation buried under a bunch of fabulous word play. Just go read all the religious based books we're drowing in that say so.

55 posted on 08/16/2012 7:59:40 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: allmendream
Wrong. My implications is that if he thinks we are not “drowning “ in information on the subject it is because he has FAILED to look.

I was trying to more eloquently say that the existence of the information doesn't automatically mean it's worth more than the paper it's printed on. In the end, macroevolution is nothing beyong hypothesis, theory and extrapolation buried under a bunch of fabulous word play. Just go read all the religious based books we're drowing in that say so. :)

56 posted on 08/16/2012 7:59:56 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: SwankyC

Sure nothing beyond a well supported theory that explains billions of facts. That you think ‘just a theory’ is a slam only shows your ignorance of science.


57 posted on 08/16/2012 10:07:39 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
*yawn* A well supported theory, absent the proof is still just a plain ol theory. I guess that's 'science' enuf for you and I guess I'll just be ignorant, Alinsky.
58 posted on 08/17/2012 8:20:03 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: SwankyC
There is no “proof” in science - only evidence. Gravity is not a “proven” theory - it is still just a theory - albeit a very well supported theory that explains (mostly -see “dark matter”) the evidence.

If something had “proof” then it would no longer be subject to debate and refinement - which is one of the hallmarks of the scientific method you so clearly do not understand.

59 posted on 08/17/2012 8:26:29 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
There is no “proof” in science

uuhhkay, utter BS. You already lost the argument Alinsky.

60 posted on 08/17/2012 9:42:30 AM PDT by SwankyC
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