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RED ALERT: Deputy A.G. behind 'Fast & Furious' met with Obama four times during height of operation
Director Blue ^ | 11/28/2011 | Doug Ross

Posted on 11/29/2011 8:22:08 AM PST by Qbert

Item 1: In March of 2011, President Obama denied knowledge of 'Operation Fast and Furious' -- the Justice Department program that sent thousands of murder weapons to Mexican drug cartels.

25 March 2011 - Under fire for an operation that allowed smuggling of U.S. weapons across the nation’s border with Mexico, President Obama said in an interview that neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder authorized the controversial “Operation Fast and Furious.”

...Obama told Univision‘s Jorge Ramos that President Felipe Calderon wasn’t informed of the operation because he — the president of the United States — wasn’t informed either. When asked whether he knew of the weapon smuggling plan, Obama responded that it is “a pretty big government” with “a lot of moving parts.”

...President Obama said ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms enforcement) was behind "Operation Fast and Furious."

Item 2: According to documents obtained by the House Judiciary Committee, Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler was keenly aware of all aspects of Operation Fast and Furious as early as March 2010. In a letter to A.G. Holder, Chairman Issa wrote:

Gary Grindler, the then-Deputy Attorney General and currently your Chief of Staff, received an extremely detailed briefing on Operation Fast and Furious on March 12, 2010. In this briefing, Grindler learned such minutiae as the number of times that Uriel Patino, a straw purchaser on food stamps who ultimately acquired 720 firearms, went in to a cooperating gun store and the amount of guns that he had bought. When former Acting ATF Director Ken Melson, a career federal prosecutor, learned similar information, he became sick to his stomach...

Item 3: Newly released White House Visitor Logs list Grindler as having visited the White House 40 times, but only four times with the President himself. All four meetings with the President occurred over a two-week period, between 7 May 2010 and 19 May 2010.

According to The Los Angeles Times, these dates just so happened to represent the run-up to "the height of [Operation] Fast and Furious":

In the U.S., intelligence officials consider the Sinaloa cartel the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world. Weekly reports from U.S. intelligence authorities to the Justice Department in the summer of 2010, at the height of Fast and Furious, warned about the proliferation of guns reaching the Sinaloa cartel... Under Fast and Furious, begun in fall 2009, the ATF allowed illegal buyers to walk away with weapons in the hope that agents in Phoenix could track the guns and arrest cartel leaders.

Summary: In early 2010, Gary Grindler was intimately involved in all aspects of Operation Fast and Furious. During the height of the operation, Grindler visited the President on four separate occasions in only two weeks -- his only documented meetings with the president at the White House.

So my question is this:

What did President Obama know -- and when did he know it?

Hat tip: Michelle Malkin.


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To: Qbert
From Issa's Letter to Holder and perjury in front of Congress, May 3, 2011

Issa to Holder: “You Own Fast and Furious”

......Gary Grindler, the then-Deputy Attorney General and currently your Chief of Staff, received an extremely detailed briefing on Operation Fast and Furious on March 12, 2010...

...At the time of his briefing in March of last year, Grindler knew that Patino had purchased 313 weapons and paid for all of them in cash. Unlike Melson, Grindler clearly saw nothing wrong with this. If Grindler had had the sense to shut this investigation down right then, he could have prevented the purchase of an additional 407 weapons by Patino alone. Instead, Grindler did nothing to stop the program.

Following this briefing, it is clear that Grindler did one of two things. Either, he alerted you to the name and operational details of Fast and Furious, in which case your May 3, 2011 testimony in front of Congress was false; or, he failed to inform you of the name and the operational details of Fast and Furious, in which case Grindler engaged in gross dereliction of his duties as Acting Deputy Attorney General. It is fair to infer from the fact that Grindler remains as your Chief of Staff that he did not engage in gross dereliction of his duties and told you about the program as far back as March of 2010.

21 posted on 11/29/2011 10:35:30 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Qbert

He knew everything and right from the beginning, “under the radar.”


22 posted on 11/29/2011 10:38:24 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: opentalk
"BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: "Eric Holder has -- the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this. We had assigned an I.G., inspector general, to investigate it."

The President lies once again: Holder knew about Fast and Furious as early as July, 2010:

"Senator Chuck Grassley and Congressman Darrell Issa today said that Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five weekly memos beginning in July 2010, including four weeks in a row, describing the ill-advised strategy known as Operation Fast and Furious. The memos were to Holder from Michael Walther, the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center."

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/10/06/holder-received-at-least-5-memos-on-fast-and-furious/

23 posted on 11/29/2011 10:39:37 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
Obama went to court and also tried to Change the FOIA rules last month, to keep these records hidden. They should all be scrutinized. I hope Grassely and Issa are looking at them.
24 posted on 11/29/2011 11:18:08 AM PST by opentalk
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Qbert
"...Comments as to why the silence???..."

It's early. Issa and Grassley have done the groundwork, but the real Political Season doesn't start until January, 2012.

The last few months of debate-bullshitting was just posturing ............................... FRegards, sweetie

25 posted on 11/29/2011 11:59:37 AM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Qbert

BTTT!


26 posted on 11/29/2011 12:17:18 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Comments as to why the silence???

The Dem part of Congress was probably briefed on it and in on the deal. Could probably throw a few RINOs in the bunch too.

It's a freaking Dem collusion conspiracy.

27 posted on 11/29/2011 12:23:37 PM PST by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

51 Congress critters are now calling for Holder’s resignation. Up from 13 about a month ago. This whole thing is teetering on the edge of snowballing into an avalanche.


28 posted on 11/29/2011 12:55:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: joe fonebone

100% agreement. bump


29 posted on 11/29/2011 1:02:11 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: joe fonebone

Is there anywhere that one could look for the very most recent updates ? Perhaps Issa’s website?

Do you happen to know when the next “move” will be made ? Whether that would be a hearing or a meeting or anything like that ?

Thanks FRiend~


30 posted on 11/29/2011 3:00:12 PM PST by simplesimon (You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own "facts"...........)
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To: Cicero; MestaMachine; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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RED ALERT: Deputy A.G. behind 'Fast & Furious' met with 0bama four times during height of operation

. . . . Check out article, and # 13.

[Thanks Cicero and MestaMachine.]

31 posted on 11/29/2011 3:32:05 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Qbert

One month before....

4/10/2010 Obama sneaks out of White House supposedly to go to daughters soccer game.

“Reporters and photographers didn’t have a chance to see him or his vehicle to verify his presence at any location.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/10/obama-leaves-white-house-_n_532919.html

And....

6/26/2010 Obama sneaks away from press in Toronto.

“Holed up with seven other global leaders in the woods of Muskoka, Canada, President Barack Obama gave the White House press corps the slip last night….It is highly unusual for the president to shun his permanent media detail that way, particularly at a high-profile event in a remote location.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/06/26/g-20-obama-gives-press-the-slip/

Where there people he needed to meet that he did not want at the White House? Are these sneak-aways related to F&F?


32 posted on 11/29/2011 4:09:28 PM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Cicero

Republicans = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhArU1sE2o&feature=related (”A Bug’s Life” outtakes)


33 posted on 11/29/2011 4:44:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Qbert

Looks like we have our fall guy. It will be Grindler and who knows how much he will benefit once out of govt.”service”.
These bastards are super slick and should never be taken for granted.Zero and “hold this” will skate just as planned.


34 posted on 11/29/2011 5:51:15 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: LucyT; All

Apparently they talked about the weather or something, not about illegal gunrunning over international borders to drug cartels...


35 posted on 11/29/2011 7:44:07 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: joe fonebone; All

because the only way to impeach a communist president with a communist senate is to have such an airtight case that to not impeach would be seen as treason.... this case is being built, all exits have been blocked, it is just a matter of time now... patience is needed here


Could an October surprise include the indictment of a sitting president?


36 posted on 11/29/2011 7:46:57 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Qbert

As I’ve said many times, there’s something every day with Obama. It’s mentally overwhelming to me the thousands of things he’s done, said, inferred - or not done - and he gets a total pass from the LSM. Can you even imagine if Obama was Nixon? Would he still be in the White House? Never forget Nixon resigned because of a botched cover up of a third rate burglary. And we had to put up with Clinton’s crimes. . what was it, something like 100 years of indictable offenses?, . . and now Obama. Is there an American alive who’s not starting to ‘get it?’ Let’s hope at least they get it by November 6, 2012.


37 posted on 11/29/2011 7:58:21 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Qbert

Watergate anyone?


38 posted on 11/30/2011 1:40:10 AM PST by BOBWADE
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To: Hotlanta Mike; joe fonebone

“...it is just a matter of time now... patience is needed here”

I’m fourth or fifth down the list seconding this, but I second, third, fourth and fifth this idea.

One caveat: Impeachment is for a lawfully seated President. The current Occupant of our White House is likely not eligible to be there in the first place. At the very least, his birth and life narrative are so scrubbed and obfuscated as to make his eligibility an open question, given currently available information. The Justiagate/Cornell tampering revelations surrounding the *Holding* of Minor vs Happersett would seem to indicate that the “Obama” cabal know at a minimum that the declared narrative of Barky’s having been born of a union between SAD and BHO Sr. renders him ineligible. Either he’s telling the truth about his origins and is therefore not eligible vis a vis Minor vs Happersett, or he’s eligible via a hitherto untold origins-story and his entire life story is then shown to be a fabrication.


39 posted on 11/30/2011 3:18:18 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Bawney Fwank: Leaving Congress to Spend More Time With Freddie's Fannie)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Comments as to why the silence???

Simple.....they are POLITICIANS!!!

40 posted on 12/03/2011 5:37:35 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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