Posted on 05/18/2011 4:27:35 PM PDT by joeclarke
No, Family Radio/Harold Camping, which has been hearkening the Return of Christ, and the Rapture for several years has not delayed the Big Day, but the Lord has not intended to return at this time. Nor, according to Camping will Armageddon and the Last Judgment occur in October of this year as prophesied. COGWRITER explains fairly well Harold Camping's errors both Biblically and mathematically.
It is unfortunate that such a nice group of people at Family Stations Inc, worth over $150,000,000 could be AGAIN hornswoggled by their Pastor-President Harold Camping, who strongly suggested earlier, that 1994 was most possibly THE DATE. He did leave a little wiggle room back then, but his followers, who I consider Christians then and now, continued to uphold a man who has been defiant to scripture, "No man knows the day or the hour." Yet, the Bible does say there would be signs. . . which have not, as of yet, prophetically occurred.
Even so, none of us have been free from getting Biblical doctrines wrong, yet the Lord in His mercy freely forgave us - and then may have even chastened us for being too trusting in ourselves or a mere man. And, all of us have at one time or another been shepherded by mortal pastors who were so proud that they could not repent or apologize for wrong doing and wrong preaching - as they would just bully the flock for their own gratification. I hope this is not the case with Harold Camping as he finds himself still on earth with mud on his face for depending too much on his own "special revelation" and knowledge, come Monday morning, May 22, 2011.
This sort of errant prophecy has occurred many times in church history. Of note, might be the Jehovah Witnesses, who I studied with until their projection that 1976 was THE END proved to be untrue, as well as the Millerites who were the progenitors of the modern day Seventh Day Adventists. They prophesied that 1844 was THE DAY, but Oops! it, of course, didn't happen, so they postponed the Second Coming to several other months in 1845. First April, then July, and finally October. When Christ did not return by the end of October, they finally gave up.
Below is one of several faxes I have been sending to Family Radio HQ, hoping that there are some there, who will not give up on the Lord because their man Camping blundered again. Feel free to fax them, or if you know anyone caught up in a May 21 Catching Up May 21, persuade them to encourage Mr. Camping, nearly 90 years of age, to just fade away for the greater good of Family Stations Inc. And, to repent.
FAX TO Family Radio Personnel FAX # 15106337983 "Even as I have enjoyed the Bible readings, music, and some of the sermons and bible expositions from Family Radio over the years, I am saddened as you will be that Judgment Day will not occur on May 21.
President Camping has again erred in regard to this, and he has also misled us on a number of other doctrines, including: No "hell" as the Bible clearly describes, Satan is in charge of ALL the churches (except his), Satan is responsible for all modern day signs and wonders, Jesus did not die on Calvary, but that was merely a "manifestation" 2000 years ago.
I pray that the vast number of Family Radio listeners will not be so disheartened that they would blame the Lord for Camping's grievous misstatements.
I am sure that there is forgiveness for Brother Camping, for many in the past 2000 years have also been seduced into believing that they had "special revelation" above and beyond their brethren, which is the chief fault possessed by Harold Camping, and so many other church leaders.
May your ministry continue to teach more pure, Biblical doctrine." Sincerely
I am sure that there is forgiveness for Brother Camping"
Uh, I doubt it, if he truly said the above. We are saved by our faith. Kooky idea don't cut it.
“Why would you ask a man who is already lost to lead you? Why then are you surprised when he leads you nowhere?”
Duncan Idaho
“A Thousand Lives”
Dang, and I was all packed... I guess I’ll have to buy my house back.
OH NOES!
The illustrations (such as the one above) for the booklet were done by Basil Wolverton who also did cartoons for "MAD Magazine":
Damn! And I was all packed too.
Wouldn’t this be close to, if not the same as, the “seeming man” theory called docetism? This is one of the tenets of mainstream Christendom: that Jesus Christ is accepted to have come into the world as a genuine man (without ceasing to be genuinely God) who died a genuine death upon a cross as narrated in all four biblical gospels. This death was needed to work a salvific atonement. One might point out that it was “more” than an ordinary death but it certainly was not less.
Well, how eclectic of Camping: "Jesus did not die on Calvary, but that was merely a "manifestation" -- is similar to Muslim teaching...as some say the "manifestation" was a disciple "substitute" in Jesus' place...
No "hell" as the Bible clearly describes...well, that's the cults of Mormonism and Seventh-day Adventism...
As for date-setting, well that belong to the cults of Seventh-day Adventism (Ellen White in the 19th century) and the Jehovah's Witnesses (several dates given by the Witnesses thru the years...)
As for "Satan is in charge of all the churches except his" -- well, that's a host of cults, including Mormonism--specifically the Book of Mormon. In 1 Nephi 14:9-10, the BoM says there's only TWO churches...Satan's and the Lamb of God. (And guess who the Mormon church says is the church of the Lamb of God? That's right...ONLY the Mormon church...which in Doctrines & Covenant 1:30 claims to be the "only true and living church on the face of the earth."
So, just call Camping a Mormo-Muz-Adventist-Witness!
You may say to yourselves, How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. Deut.18:21-22
Wait, I am a little confused by the article. Camping didn’t cancel the rapture did he? We’re still on for May 21st?
Darn...I went for that full living room of furniture with no payments until May 22, 2011. I’m screwed.
“Jesus did not die on Calvary, but that was merely a “manifestation” 2000 years ago....
I am sure that there is forgiveness for Brother Camping”
Uh, I doubt it, if he truly said the above. We are saved by our faith. Kooky idea don’t cut it.”
Discussion of Camping’s “Christ did not really die 2000 years ago” here http://www.scionofzion.com/how_many_times_did_christ_die.htm
I used to read Garner Ted’s magazine in the 70’s. Plain Truth?
It was free.
My wife and I were on a road trip this past weekend, and we noted SEVERAL billboard signs advertising “The Rapture” coming on 5.21.
I’m don’t consider myself a ‘practicing’ religious person, but I hope it happens. That would be so cool to see during our lifetimes!
Well, many interpreters of things Bible suggest that if you weren’t a “practicing religious person” before seeing the rapture, you probably will be (if you believe, that will always make a difference in what you would otherwise do) once you do see it. That is, if you don’t just plain die first which anybody could do at any moment, and to put it mildly there don’t seem to be a lot of hints for a second chance following that event.
I hate Apocalypse interruptus.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God, born a man through a virgin birth, and crucified for our salvation. His resurrection becomes our own renewal in a life in Heaven with Him after we are gone from this sinful world. Thus, He is the promise God made to Israel, that one will come who justifies us in God’s eyes.
Anything short of a firm belief in His death and resurrection belittles His purpose on earth, and falls short of salvation.
I’d agree it falls short of an adequate description of how salvation was worked. I don’t want to go out on a limb to the point of saying that individuals can’t put an efficacious personal salvation trust in Jesus Christ while not quite understanding how Jesus Christ worked it. But it certainly is unseemly for a whole church, like Camping’s, to be in such ignorance.
it would seem if you don’t know heresy, you are doomed to repeat it...
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