Posted on 04/21/2011 8:38:18 PM PDT by Kartographer
Apparently that’s what a survival expert is saying.
My opinion? Unless there’s a real threat to you, leaving your safe, stocked, defensible home, where you know your neighbors, where you have a job and means to support yourself in a complicated economic time, lets say its not the smartest thing to do.
(Excerpt) Read more at ferfal.blogspot.com ...
Darn right. We have a whole network set up. This is not the time to be just starting, but if anyone hasn’t, do it now. A whole lot of people still can’t see what’s coming and they are going to panic. Good people will do insane things. I really fear that more than anything...because it will be horrible to tell them no and at some point, no will mean no and they just won’t understand. I shudder to think....
You have to start with some common ground in terms of seeing what’s going on in the world. Me, my brother, my friend, and a few others in the loop are Christian and conservative. We were talking about what we see might be coming down the pike and how to prepare. Our friend said he was selling his house and buying a farm with a well. One reason is that he was financially secure and was tired of the rat race. Another reason was “what if the SHTF.” We’ve gone to the range together, share moral and religious values, and know each other. From there, it wasn’t “can we come over if the SHTF,” it was “how do we work together.”
The key is common ground and awareness. Otherwise, there’s no real point in trying to have those conversations. At least, that’s how I see it...
Sheltering in place, where you know people and have the possibility of real support, is preferable to taking yourself and your family into the country, unless the collapse literally comes to your door and drives you out. Unless you live in a city now. Sheltering in place within a city will be akin to having a picnic on an active artillery range.
It is good to have a stocked survival retreat, just in case, if one can afford it and if it is easily reachable when EVERYONE has the idea to get out of the cities at the same time, clogging up the interstates.
This will be the case in most cities; those people really ought to relocate as far from the city as is possible. Mayhem is going to ensue in the cities when it all goes to shit.
If I lived in a city, something that would never happen anyway, I would be moving out RIGHT NOW to a non-urban location, even if it means some hardship in the near term.
Thank you. I have plans to move in the next few months...off the beaten path much more than I am now, Which is right in this small city. You could call it rural suburbs sort of where I’ll be moving and the best I can do.. But the residence is not noticable unless you know that it is there. Also has a garden area which is a plus.
I try not to get too alarmed mesta...but do the best I can whith what I’ve got available to do with. I started adding food stuff a few months ago....and the place I’m moving to has a garden area I intend to use though I’ve never gardened before.Have talked with the folks on the gun threads and that will be forthcoming as well. It’s late for me but I had anticapated family members would be more receptive, which is a not so far. My one son has plans to jet out I understand...but how will people get from place to place?
I’m looking forward to this move....same landlord too and it was he who recommended the place. Nice area and off the beaten path. I’m also considering other plans...B and C just in case this doesn’t work for the long run.
You sound set for whatever might come. Thank God you knew enough to plan and had others also awake to form your network.
I suggest an open ended question: “How do you feel about this ObamaCare?” “How do you feel about the national debt?” “What do you think about the rising price of gasoline?”
Then I suggest you listen. People like to be heard, not ranted at.
After you listen, then respond with your honest opinion. Give your reasons for what you think. If you are unsure about one thing or another, admit it. You don’t need to be a know-it-all.
If they keep talking, you keep talking. If not, then, you are done talking about it.
I recommend you don’t raise your voice or interrupt or get personal.
Hope these tips help. Open ended questions are the best. Asking people yes or no questions: “Are you worried about Obamacare?” “Do you care about the national debt?” “Does the price of gas these days worry you?” don’t let the conversation unfold. Ask the open ended questions: the how and the why.
Excellant sound advice Persevro. I will certainly take it in how I approach this. My son is visiting tomorrow so this came in perfect timing..thank you!
CW
Would you please adopt me....I’m old and don’t eat much but can shear a goat, skin it with an air compressor and am a retired nurse....:O)
Did you and your granddaughter ever get your tats?
A good friend who does not mind you showing up with your hand out during what will be a very troubling time for them too...not likely.
Have you even talked to this friend about this possibility?
I agree as well.
I have one problem though. I have prepared for almost every contigency on the home defense front should TSHTF except for one; Fire.
An 'undesirable' who wishes to force me out could simply lob a Molotov cocktail at my abode and I would be powerless to address that. If I leave the house to extinguish the fire, I could be shot...or worse. I have yet to develop a viable defense against that other than eliminating all possible threats from long range...which is less than an ideal solution.
The only problem with stockpiling choclate is that it has a very (relatively) short shelf life. Maybe a year. I have a bunch vacuum sealed and frozen but that goes out the window if/when the lights go out. Maybe it's time to get that generator.
Hey, it’s chocolate. Stockpiling or not, chocolate always has a very short shelf life here, munch munch yummmmmm all gone!
Hmmmf. When Bush was in office they were all "out there" with it. There was nothing private about it. Funny how Libtards don't like to admit when they are wrong. According to Lincoln, that is the true measure of a man.
Ha! Too true. It’s really hard when I go to the freezer to dig for a roast or a shoulder to smoke.....and there’s that Hershey’s Dark just sitting there....whispering my name...over and over and over.
Ferfal story ping.
Depending on the SHTF situation a generator would be like calling SUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYY... to the hogs.
How did you open the conversation in the beginning?
In my neighborhood, I mention the earthquake in Sendai Japan and how the effects were felt 230 miles away in Tokyo - food shortages, gas shortages etc. From there, a benign comment about being prepared will usually give you a good idea about how your neighbors feel about a lot of things. And also, who to keep an eye on when TSHTF.
Of course, you NEVER want to give TOO much detail on your vast stores of food and ammo...
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