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USMC Adopts New Open-tip ‘SOST’ 5.56 Ammo
Accurate Shooter ^ | 2/17/2010 | unknown

Posted on 06/30/2010 11:26:53 AM PDT by Joe Brower

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1 posted on 06/30/2010 11:27:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...

This ammo looks like an adaptation of the 5.45x39 ammo cooked up by the Soviets in the 1980s for the AK-74.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

BTW, posting this article was a royal, time-consuming PITA. First, I get it all typed in only to be told that the Marine Corps Times imparts copyright restrictions. Then I type this whole article in only to be told that it should go into "Bloggers". As a software engineer for over 25 years now, here's a suggestion to the FR webmasters: Warn people at the start of an op, not at the end.

2 posted on 06/30/2010 11:29:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

“This thread is useless without pictures”

I want to see these bullets!


3 posted on 06/30/2010 11:32:24 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Joe Brower

Ah. I should have refreshed before I hit reply


4 posted on 06/30/2010 11:33:13 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Joe Brower
"The new bullet, with a lead core (in the top half) and solid copper bottom half, is similar to hunting bullets such as Federal’s Trophy Bonded Bear Claw."

"When you care enough to send only your very best", make it a MK 318 MOD 0. Ahem, apologies to FTD...
5 posted on 06/30/2010 11:35:52 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will work for ammo)
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To: Joe Brower

Yee Haw! Hollow points for use on the ragheads! About darn time1


6 posted on 06/30/2010 11:36:40 AM PDT by Afisra
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To: Joe Brower

Yee Haw! Hollow points for use on the ragheads! About darn time!


7 posted on 06/30/2010 11:36:50 AM PDT by Afisra
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WE have been sneaking in “Remington soft-points” for our 308’s for a long time. Nothing pushes through armor and bullet proof vests faster than a knife through butter than a soft tip bullet.

Many of my fellow soldiers are using hollow points for their M-4’s (5.56mm) that really improves the drop rate on enemy with first rounds!

eight deuce on the loose!

God Bless America!

8 posted on 06/30/2010 11:38:05 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: Joe Brower

I hope this means XM193 and M885 will become more available (and less expensive)....but I know better.


9 posted on 06/30/2010 11:39:26 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (When in doubt, choose FREEDOM!)
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To: Joe Brower
...62mm bullet.

Millimeter, grain. Same thing, right?

10 posted on 06/30/2010 11:40:47 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: Niteranger68

bfl


11 posted on 06/30/2010 11:41:00 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Afisra
Roughly equivalent to soft point, hollow point is against the Geneva convention, or at least that's what I remember from when I was in.
12 posted on 06/30/2010 12:07:49 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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I thought it had to be solid ball to be legal with respect to the Geneva Conventions, e.g. no dum dums, which this bullet appears to be an update thereof.


13 posted on 06/30/2010 12:19:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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"I thought it had to be solid ball to be legal with respect to the Geneva Conventions, e.g. no dum dums, which this bullet appears to be an update thereof."

I would guess this is because the Taliban are not signatories of the Geneva Convention, and as un-uniformed troops are not entitled to any of its protections.

14 posted on 06/30/2010 12:23:13 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe Brower

Sounds like they updated the round with faster burning powder as well.


15 posted on 06/30/2010 12:36:54 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If I don't like you, it's most likely your culture or your ideology that pissed me off.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

see the bullets here:

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2010/06/02/military-tech-action/?test=faces#slide=1


16 posted on 06/30/2010 1:17:31 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Joe 6-pack

While I was in the military, I asked why snipers use Match King hollow point bullets. It was explained to me that JAG ruled that military shooters cannot use a hollow point designed specifically to increase wounding but they can use a hollow point designed to increase accuracy. I was told that the hollow point manufacturing results in more uniform jacket thickness, better ballistic coefficient by moving bullet center to the rear and other factors that make them more accurate than FMJ rounds. This is why US military snipers have been allowed to use hollow point bullets for years. The better terminal ballistics are just a side benny of using the design which is supposed to be for accuracy. I do not know if this is true or not but it sounded good enough for me to believe it.


17 posted on 06/30/2010 1:25:15 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: neverdem

The free world are the only one stupid enough to obey the legalities with respect to the Geneva Conventions, the ragheads sure don’t.


18 posted on 06/30/2010 1:33:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left.)
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To: jospehm20
Sounds good to me!

I know that military and paramilitary forces of other nations (who are Geneva signatories) have used frangible munitions for their counterterrorist forces for a long time. I assumed that this was because non-uniformed combatants were not afforded Geneva protections, but the info you present may be the justification. IIRC, the Blitz Action Trauma (BAT) was designed for GSG9...it had a plastic tip that allowed smooth feeding in weapons designed for FMJ ammo, but the tip merely covered a gaping hollow-point...


19 posted on 06/30/2010 1:37:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe Brower
I LOVE this ...

pen-tip bullets have been approved for use by U.S. forces for decades, but are sometimes confused with hollow-point rounds, which expand in human tissue after impact, causing unnecessary suffering, according to widely accepted international treaties signed following the Hague peace conventions held in the Netherlands in 1899 and 1907.

Unnecessary suffering? Are you fricking kidding me?!?!?!ANYone hit by a 5.56 bullet traveling at high speeds is gonna have "suffering".

Unnecessary?!?! Stay outta the way of the bullet!

20 posted on 06/30/2010 1:39:57 PM PDT by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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