Army Birther Doc’s Lawyer: ‘Mounting Evidence’ Obama an Illegal Alien (Barf Alert)

Chattah Box ^ | May 10, 2010 | "Sue"

[2ndDivisionVet]

This is just plain nuts. Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a highly-decorated Army surgeon, with 18-years of service behind him, is willingly throwing his career and reputation away, because be believes in the birther conspiracy nonsense that President Obama is not a natural born citizen. The Army has instituted court martial proceedings against him for refusing to obey deployment orders to Afghanistan, which Lakin says are illegal orders from an illegal alien. The birther doctor appeared on CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s 360 program Friday evening with his lawyer. And the interview soon turn heated, as Cooper attempted to inject some fact-based reality into the conversation.

Lakin’s lawyer Paul Jensen, obtained by the birther conspiracy groups American Patriot Foundation/Safeguard Our Constitution, continually jumped in to answer Cooper’s questions posed to Lakin. The basis of Jensen’s arguments all center on his rejection of Obama’s Certificate of Live birth issued by the state of Hawaii. He contends it’s not proof of Obama’s birth in the United States, because it’s merely an “abstract” of the original document on file. Lakin through his lawyer, is demanding to see the original document.

Jensen couldn’t explain Obama’s two birth notices in local Hawaii newspapers. And he refuses to accept the determination made by the Republican governor of Hawaii, who examined the original birth certificate on file, declaring it valid.

Despite all of the evidence to the contrary, Jensen falsely declared there was “mounting evidence” that Obama is an illegal alien.

When Cooper asked Lakin if he believes that all members of the military from Hawaii are also illegal aliens and not eligible to serve, he mumbled something about the President being required to be a “natural born citizen”

After Jensen continued to jump in with his birther conspiracy theories, Cooper asked: “Can the colonel not talk for himself? The guy’s an adult.”

Finally, Lakin offered a general response, explaining why he is subjecting himself to a court martial:

“It’s a fundamental of the Constitution, and my oath of office is to the Constitution, and I believe we need truth on this matter.”

The remainder of the interview is being shown tonight. What a truly sad and pathetic spectacle.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

[stuartcr]

Whether it was a legit order or not, he is depriving our troops of an experienced combat doctor when they need him. I have nothing good to say about the LTC.

[hosepipe]

[ If Obama was born in the USA, then his stay in Indonesia as a child could not rob him of US citizenship. ]

Then it should be very easy to prove.. gaining him points against the naysayers..
On the otherhand.............. he might be defrocked of his holyness.. and synthetic citizenship..

[1rudeboy]

Did Taitz sufficiently explain how Eric Holder managed to get from Los Angeles to Columbus, GA and back to meet with Judge Land at that coffeeshop? I thought the Air Force retired its SR-71’s.

[Red Steel]

Actually, that originally came from some witness who said he saw Eric Holder in Georgia on the day of the hearing. Holder did have the time to get to and from LA to Macon, Georgia via executive jet before he was seen in the evening on the West coast.

[patlin]

THX for the PING. I see Mr Rogers has has escaped & shown up on que to top spread his liberal propaganda. I thought PBS had retired him from the public due to his repetitiously boring commentary.

[so_real]

Whether it was a legit order or not, he is depriving our troops of an experienced combat doctor when they need him. I have nothing good to say about the LTC.

No ... stuartcr ... Obama, as the supposed Commander in Chief, is depriving our troops of an experienced combat doctor when they need him. Obama could clear this up in a minute without encouraging officers to neglect their oaths. Instead, not only does he refuse, but he spends tax payer dollars attempting to force the officer to fail in his sworn oath. Doesn't that make you angry? ... Or do you think the entire military body is nothing more than a pawn to execute the will of the CiC?

[1rudeboy]

Orly filed that affidavit. She owns it. Much like she owns the claim that someone was forging her signature on other documents submitted to the court. But she didn't own that one client (Rhodes?) who filed a letter that Taitz was making claims to which she did not consent.

She's a nitwit.

[SatinDoll]

What many people do not know is that Hawaii allows a foreign birth certificate to be maintained in its vaults as a vital record.

All one has to do is request the proper forms from Hawaii’s DOH.

[Mr Rogers]

The logic in your reply is...well, missing.

[verity]

It is spelled cue.

[Mr Rogers]

And if they base it on a foreign birth certificate, the location on the COLB shows the foreign birth...

[Vendome]

He is a She.

[Vendome]

forget my previous post.

I am practicing illiteracy tonight.

[Vendome]

Here is something I like to post from time to time:

 

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

 

 

[Vendome]

I fly private jets from time to time and I figure he could have absolutely made those trips, easily.

I don’t think he did but, it is easily possible though.

[Vendome]

cute...

[Clump]

You are right on the money.

[patlin]

I was merely stating a fact, I didn't think logic was needed to deduce what is known as a common occurrence. It is because it is, therefore my interpretation of your responses needs no logic, the fact that you responded as I stated is proof to that fact.

No Logic Needed!

[Mr Rogers]

Ah...so one can just write “liberal propaganda” and continue on, as you say, with “No Logic Needed!”

Fascinating...

[MHGinTN]

Agitprops like missy rogers don’t care if their little mangod has lied about his citizenship, remains an Indonesian citizen, used his Indonesian citizenship to game the college entry tuition systems, etc. All they need do is sow seeds of misdirection that his citizenship as an Indonesia couldn’t cancel American citizenship. Posters like Rogers do not like America the way they perceive it and are more than onboard for ‘transforming America’ into the socialist model of their democrat party demigods and international socialist pay masters.