Posted on 12/26/2009 8:02:56 PM PST by USALiberty
US Military Forces are refusing to take Orders from Obama unless he can prove he is a US Citizen. They plan Court action as theie Lawyers are taking Briefs as we speak.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
"A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii" may obtain an "amended" HI B.C.
Therefore, when the "officials" from HI state that they "have seen" his original record...it could easily be an amended HI BC for a foreign born Barry who was adopted in HI.
from #203
“Interesting comment indeed. What would be the possible scenario(s) in which his legal father was changed (back) to Sr? If Sr. subsequently adopted Jr. after-wards?
Meaning...since we know Sr. didn’t adopt Jr. after Jr. was adopted by Soetoro...right, his current legal B.C. must list his father as Soetoro. Of course, that would mean his original B.C. (whatever it may show) was amended, and I believe Attorney Donofrio & Mrs Tickly had come to the conclusion that indeed, his BC was amended.
Therefore, what has been posted in cyber-space is in fact a forgery based on that issue alone. “
Well, I've studied your belligerent, one-sentence insistence that what you want to believe is undeniable fact. It wasn't really all that compelling.
I have consistently read all the links people provide on these cases. I have even commented on the source material itself numerous times. It is not compelling or proof of anything. Some of it is almost clever. The rest ranges from incompetent hack work to clearly deranged.
Oh yeah, I agree with you for sure. It is the entire Military that needs to effect this coup!! Let them ALL refuse this pr*cks orders and frankly turn their abilities back on him. This has gone WAAAY TOO FAR. IF America does NOT act very SOON, it will be too late. He is quietly amassing and arming a personal army of outright THUGS. He’s already said it, he will make his army equal to or more powerful than the US Military. Why do folks not see it? He treats the Military like absolute crap. He defends every Terrorist, thug and infidel like family. He treats the patriots like they are criminals. I literally can hardly bear to watch it anymore. I mute every single word Obama ever says on televison, in fact I usually change the channel until he’s done. He IS the enemy and you had better believe that. CO
You have consistently studied all the links blah blah blah AND YOU have still come to the wrong conclusion because you are an Obamabot you poor thing. You have my sincere sympathy. You are NO Conservative, either old or tired. CO
I have been looking for documentation do you know where it is?
Thanks.
Not sure I understand your sentence regarding the BC, his stepfather and father.
OMG!! LucyT - your post #152 - EXACTLY!!! Nobody can realistically DEFEND this BS. He’s a FAKE, a USURPER, a FRAUD and a dangerous COMMIE. He HATES America and it shows every day. He simply CANNOT bring himself to defend the Nation either in word or deed. He’s SO PRO Islam that even a blind man could see it. Lots of luck there America. When you are groveling for good as a nation, thank the DIMWITS that bought this indefensibel claptrap and poor excuse for a human being. He belongs in Africa. Period. He’s no citizen of the UNited States much less a NATURAL born one. CO
Thanks for the ping!
Buahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahaha!
No, I simply haven't reached the delusional conclusion in your mind because I retain the ability to set my emotions aside and think rationally. That is a hallmark of real conservatism.
numerous times???
It would be more correct if you say:!
"I have even commented on the source material itself more than two-hundred and ten (210) times in less than three (3) months on this issue, and ONLY on this issue alone"!!
And as a a tired_old_conservative'(?) I have NOT contributed on any other issues or other thread here on F.R!!!
See post 232!!!
Thanks for the ping, Lucy.
That’s the thing I always wondered about...
I wonder if the adoption which went through the courts in Indonesia was ever even reported to the registrar here in the US? That’s the only way I can possibly see the Original BC NOT being amended to his new name of Soetero, and his father being listed as Soetero as well.
I’m adopted so this angle on the controversy is a very interesting one to me. It’s also an angle that may be standing in the way of Obama himself releasing the records - if they indeed were amended from the adoption. Of course, it’s a little different if you’re talking about a President, vs. a lowly old adoptee like me, but courts do NOT like opening those original records. If Obama himself doesn’t go to court to request the unsealing (and even if he DID) he would need a compelling argument to open those files. In the past even those who needed the information to search for potentially life-saving genetic matches for bone-marrow transplants and the like have been denied.
PLEASE NOTE: I obviously don’t believe that Obama has ASKED for those records or ever intends to (and I don’t believe he “requested” them sealed either, but rather that they were automatically sealed via the adoption and the only copy he could get listed Soetero and that would screw up his whole act - hence the reason for the forgery in the first place).
I think THAT is a more likely scenario, and part of the reason his lawyers mentioned the whole “embarrassment” thing - even the President can’t bypass some laws...
All speculation of course, but something I’ve wondered about over the last 2 years...
What kind of documentation were you referring to, Vendome?
That the adoption in Indonesia took place, or that adoptions amend the original birth certificate, and the original is then sealed?
Adoption records are sealed and not available in most states, Hawaii included.
However, what we do have, confirmed.
Barry, registered in an Indonesian School under the name of Barry Soetoro.
Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann’s divorce records stating there is one minor child (giving Mia’s name) and another “adult” child of the marriage. STanley only had Mia and Obama.
Mia herself says Obama was adopted at age 6.
Barry himself, when asked, has never denied his adoption.
All of that information can be found on Obama crime, on Free Republic and various other sites that are trying to verify who Obama is or are archieving information on him.
Please see post# 236.
I too am adopted, by my step-father which is why this stands out for me as a huge red flag.
Oh yeah, I agree with you for sure. It is the entire Military that needs to effect this coup!! Let them ALL refuse this pr*cks orders and frankly turn their abilities back on him. This has gone WAAAY TOO FAR. IF America does NOT act very SOON, it will be too late. He is quietly amassing and arming a personal army of outright THUGS. He’s already said it, he will make his army equal to or more powerful than the US Military. Why do folks not see it? He treats the Military like absolute crap. He defends every Terrorist, thug and infidel like family. He treats the patriots like they are criminals. I literally can hardly bear to watch it anymore. I mute every single word Obama ever says on televison, in fact I usually change the channel until he’s done. He IS the enemy and you had better believe that. CO
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Mr. Outrage:
Not that I disagree with your general sense of our current situation, or your sense of outrage...But, point of clarification: What “private army” do you contend Obama is building? What facts/events do you use to provide evidence for this? Now, again, I can’t say I disagree with you totally — but I don’t see this so overtly as you apparently do...Just curious to know if I missed some other “obvious” facts...
I am tired of phony conservatives and DU Dummy trools covering for Hussein here like the old conservative (aka probably some old Jesus-hatin hippy).
I was adopted at the age of 7 and understand, very much, the process. I recall vividly being asked certain questions by the judge in the case, my BC(a long form)shows an notation of ammendment and I fully understand the process to change your name back to your birth name. Of course, you “cannot” change your BC, it is what it is and no amount of wishing to reclaim your birthright, of name and lineage, is going to change it.
It is a legal document based on a set of circumstances that never changed before I reached majority. Barack, if he was adopted, is in the same position.
You can only go by AKA or have your name legally changed but, it will not and cannot change the BC, which much show an ammendment exists in the record. Said ammendment can be accessed but the records underlying the change may not be available.
In looking at the other poster’s statement, he couched it as a fact. I have never seen anything other than Mia’s statement and the school records to support this. Parent’s lie all the time to gain a more favorable status for their child and I don’t have a problem with it.
Thing is, there is no documentation to support any of this. Surprise? LOL, everything about the Barry(Borne) identity is sealed, lost or murky.
So my question was “is there some evidence by way of documentation to support this claim.
I worked with Polarik to prove that COLB is a fake and it was easy to spot.
I have been told there are divorce records for the Lolo marriage but, I only have copies of the Obama divorce sans one page.
Thanks.
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