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New Obama Military Rules of Engagement:, Don’t shoot back
Backpacker ^ | Jul. 04 2009

Posted on 11/11/2009 6:52:34 PM PST by clove

Recently on ABC television news, one of their videos showed a U.S. Marine hunkered down in Afghanistan complaining on camera that he was not allowed to shoot back when under fire. This situation resulted from Obama’s new rules of engagement from his new Afghanistan commander. General McChrystal explained it to BBC news that they are now advising troops to break off from firefights with the Taliban, "If you are in a situation where you are under fire from the enemy... if there is any chance of creating civilian casualties or if you don't know whether you will create civilian casualties, if you can withdraw from that situation without firing, then you must do so”

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To: thouworm

No, thouworm, it was a general post. Should have said ALL. You just got lucky. LOL
Just letting everyone on this thread who didn’t realize it that this started way back in July, and it isn’t just our Troops. It’s ALL of NATO’s troops as well. Body counts are going up for every country involved with these “new” ROE.


161 posted on 11/12/2009 3:27:03 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: anglian

What do you mean a “hit piece?”


162 posted on 11/12/2009 3:28:44 AM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: MestaMachine

OT to thread, but uplifting...

Tea Parties: Misunderstood and Vastly Underrated
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2384551/posts


163 posted on 11/12/2009 3:36:08 AM PST by thouworm
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To: machogirl

Not only is this Kenyan bastard killing our troops, he is condemning our troops who have fallen in the past 8 yearss to have died in vain. He is purposely trying to lose this war and demoralize our fighting men and women. Damn him!


164 posted on 11/12/2009 3:36:33 AM PST by Merlinator (Take them all down...one czar at a time FUBO)
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To: clove
Pull them out, if they are just going to be sacrificial pawns.
165 posted on 11/12/2009 4:15:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Califreak

NOTHING is out of the question with the boy king.

LLS


166 posted on 11/12/2009 4:19:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: omega4179

IMPEACH!


167 posted on 11/12/2009 4:20:13 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: khnyny

bump!


168 posted on 11/12/2009 4:21:30 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: clove
Obama’s First Military Order Don’t shoot back at Taliban Terrorists!

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12758

169 posted on 11/12/2009 4:25:06 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: nutmeg
Here is the original BBC source article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8118013.stm

170 posted on 11/12/2009 4:32:58 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: clove

What do we expect from J.E.S.U.S.*, the Obamessiah?

(Jihadist Enabling Stooge of the United States)*


171 posted on 11/12/2009 4:44:16 AM PST by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps.11:3)
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To: smoothsailing; Lancey Howard
I just don't get the point of this strategy. Forcing your soldiers/Marines to "win the hearts and minds" of local Afghani's by putting their own lives at so much risk seems suicidal to me. I don't know if this is primarily McChrystal's initiative or the obama administration's.

From your link, smooth, it appears Karl Eikenberry, U.S. ambassador in Afghanistan, "had misgivings about sending in new troops while there are still so many questions about the leadership of Afghan President Hamid Karzai." .....and so....we get the dithering.

Also from the article: "With the Taliban-led insurgency expanding in size and ability, U.S. military strategy already has shifted to focus on heading off the fighters and protecting Afghan civilians. The evolving U.S. policy, already remapped early in Obama's tenure, increasingly acknowledges that the insurgency can be blunted but not defeated outright by force."

????!!!!
172 posted on 11/12/2009 4:44:57 AM PST by Girlene
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To: clove

This is not news. The Onada ROE went into effect six or seven months ago at least. The military rolled over for it—just like it rolled over for the politicians in the Viet Nam war. Our Army did not lose Viet Nam. The politicians did. Same is happening in Afghanistan.

All of us have watched Onada coming for 60 years and have done nothing meaningful to prevent it. Pubbies allowed the GOP to be taken over by RINOs by repeatedly voting for RINO candidates “just to keep a demrat out of office”. Problem: A RINO is a demrat by another name.

Oh, and I was guilty too. Complaining and whining “why don’t THEY do something”. The question now is what are we, as individuals (including you and me) prepared to do to take back our country. Simply mailing in $10 campaign contributions and voting are no longer sufficient effort. Gotta join Tea Parties, challenge people who attack, ca Christianity and be prepared to join America’s Second Revolution.

I remain hopeful there will be a political solution to the Marxist attack on America and its institutions. But I’m prepared to fight. Are you?


173 posted on 11/12/2009 4:53:03 AM PST by dools007
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To: machogirl

He needs to be tried for treason.


174 posted on 11/12/2009 5:01:44 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Nowhere Man

I’m surprised the ROE doesn’t require the presence of a JAG officer to authorize return fire....


175 posted on 11/12/2009 5:02:27 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak

Yeah JAG’s giving miranda rights. Might as well be. It is disgusting.


176 posted on 11/12/2009 5:12:45 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: thethirddegree

Yes,for aiding and abetting terrorists and putting his political ideals before the safety of this country...for starters.

A new campaign slogan that if the pubs don’t say loudly and proudly, this country is done...

NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, No MORE UNITED NATIONS!


177 posted on 11/12/2009 5:16:23 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Mirandize.
Contact the Pentagon for conference call with senior JAG officers.
Fill out DD Form X1938457436 “Evaluation of request to use weapons by NATO forces to suppress indigenous local youth”
Fax DD Form X1938457436 to higher headquarters.
Call for medivac for wounded/dead US combatants....


178 posted on 11/12/2009 5:19:29 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak

Why isn’t our media reporting this? Why do we have to read the real news from the UK and Canada? CBS did a blurb on it. 60 minutes reported it with so much political correctness the subject’s reality was protected.


179 posted on 11/12/2009 5:23:43 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: clove

Obama and the RAT Party throwing our military under their treasonous bus. The American people won’t be kind in 2010.


180 posted on 11/12/2009 5:32:14 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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