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Rethinking relativity: Is time out of joint?
New Scientist ^ | 21 October 2009 | Rachel Courtland

Posted on 11/02/2009 9:29:43 PM PST by Kevmo

Rethinking relativity: Is time out of joint?

EVER since Arthur Eddington travelled to the island of Príncipe off Africa to measure starlight bending around the sun during a 1919 eclipse, evidence for Einstein’s theory of general relativity has only become stronger. Could it now be that starlight from distant galaxies is illuminating cracks in the theory’s foundation?

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Yet it is still not clear how well general relativity holds up over cosmic scales, at distances much larger than the span of single galaxies. Now the first, tentative hint of a deviation from general relativity has been found. While the evidence is far from watertight, if confirmed by bigger surveys, it may indicate either that Einstein’s theory is incomplete, or else that dark energy, the stuff thought to be accelerating the expansion of the universe, is much weirder than we thought (see “Not dark energy, dark fluid”).

The analysis of starlight data by cosmologist Rachel Bean of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, has generated quite a stir. Shortly after the paper was published on the pre-print physics archive, prominent physicist Sean Carroll of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena praised Bean’s research. “This is serious work by a respected cosmologist,” he wrote on his blog Cosmic Variance. “Either the result is wrong, and we should be working hard to find out why, or it’s right, and we’re on the cusp of a revolution.”

.... At this stage, it’s hard to say what would happen if the deviation from general relativity was confirmed. Cosmologists have already considered some modifications to general relativity that could explain the universe’s acceleration (see “Not dark energy, dark fluid”).

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(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: anisotropy; antigravity; bigbang; coldfusion; cosmology; electricuniverse; electrogravitics; energy; energypolicy; evolution; fusion; fusionenergy; gravity; inflation; intelligentdesign; nuclear; physics; science; scientism; stringtheory
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Thanks to Sunken Civ for bringing this to my attention. I have often said that I think the Speed of Light is not a constant, and that evidence is slowly piling up to support that.
1 posted on 11/02/2009 9:29:45 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo

You’ll get roundly rounded around here for suggesting such a thing....

I still think Einstein didn’t really tell us anything about the what, he just ended up talking about the when and the where. He described geometry, not particles.


2 posted on 11/02/2009 9:33:28 PM PST by djf (Having a gun and not needing it is better than needing one - and not having it! Way better!!)
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To: Kevmo

I think we are witnessing the Timothy Leary Effect on astrophysics...


3 posted on 11/02/2009 9:34:09 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks, Civ.

It turns out that New Scientist is on the excerpt/link list now also.

Along the same vein :

The Suppression of Inconvenient Facts in Physics
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2266921/posts
Sunday, June 07, 2009 7:50:26 PM · by Kevmo · 78 replies · 1,750+ views
Suppressed Science.Net ^ | 12/06/08 | http://www.suppressedscience.net/

The End of Snide Remarks Against Cold Fusion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2265914/posts
Friday, June 05, 2009 5:56:08 PM · by Kevmo · 95 replies · 1,907+ views
Free Republic, Gravitronics.net and Intrade ^ | 6/5/09 | kevmo, et al

Re-Analysis of the Marinov Light-Speed Anisotropy Experiment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2270920/posts
Friday, June 12, 2009 11:25:41 PM · by Kevmo · 27 replies · 1,138+ views
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0612/0612201v2.pdf ^ | Reginald T. Cahill


4 posted on 11/02/2009 9:34:55 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo

time is not a constant.


5 posted on 11/02/2009 9:35:33 PM PST by allmost
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To: April Lexington

Turn On, Tune In, and Drop Out?


6 posted on 11/02/2009 9:37:09 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo

Yep. Seems like the universe is a bit more psychedelic than we had at first suspected!


7 posted on 11/02/2009 9:38:22 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

Well, something is way out of whack.

Dark matter, used to explain something that didn’t fit.
Dark energy, used to explain something that didn’t fit.

What’s next?
Dark light used to explain something that doesn’t fit?

A suitable theory that gravity has a local component to it would clear all this up so quick it would make your head spin.
And I’ve never seen any valid rebuttals to Sakharov and Putoffs work that talks about that exact thing.


8 posted on 11/02/2009 9:39:48 PM PST by djf (Having a gun and not needing it is better than needing one - and not having it! Way better!!)
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To: allmost

It never was.

But C, the speed of light, was postulated to be a constant by Einstein. Now it’s looking more like a decaying function.


9 posted on 11/02/2009 9:42:40 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: djf

“We all live in a Yellow Submarine...” Its all about what you think its about. None of this makes any sense. I think G-d is keeping s from knowing this stuff because its not important for us to know it. Not that we shouldn’t try, mind you. Its just that our brains aren’t big enough to figure it all out. If we knew it, we’d be G-d. And we ain’t G-d!


10 posted on 11/02/2009 9:43:22 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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There is nothing in the universe more strange and bizarre than anything else.

It's just that you've gotten used to some of it.

11 posted on 11/02/2009 9:45:27 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: djf

A suitable theory that gravity has a local component to it would clear all this up so quick it would make your head spin.
***Got links? I’m not sure I’m familiar with this angle.


12 posted on 11/02/2009 9:45:44 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo

Bad idea, disrespecting einstein... you are wrong BTW...


13 posted on 11/02/2009 9:47:10 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

Nothing in the theory of relativity is a constant, it is all relative to the observer. Not time, speed, distance, energy, mass, or speed of light. Speed is a measure of time vs. distance, and if time is relative or distance is relative, than the speed of light has got to be relative.

.....Bob


14 posted on 11/02/2009 9:52:35 PM PST by Lokibob (When handed lemons...Refuse to sign for them. Life's lemons can't be delivered without a signature.)
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To: Kevmo

http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRA/v39/i5/p2333_1


15 posted on 11/02/2009 9:52:41 PM PST by djf (Having a gun and not needing it is better than needing one - and not having it! Way better!!)
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To: allmost

Bad idea, disrespecting einstein... you are wrong BTW...
***It isn’t a disrespect of the man Einstein any more than Einstein was disrespecting Newton. One theory is just a correction factor for the other to allow for the newest observations.

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16 posted on 11/02/2009 9:53:13 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
There is nothing in the universe more strange and bizarre than anything else. It's just that you've gotten used to some of it.

Brilliant! This is excellent!

17 posted on 11/02/2009 9:53:41 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Kevmo

I have long wondered if the redshift were actually caused by decay of photons (the speed of the particle constant, but the wavelength decreasing). If so, the universe may not be expanding at all. If neither the speed nor the wavelength of light is constant, what do we really know?

Also interesting is ‘knot theory’ physics...


18 posted on 11/02/2009 9:54:11 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: djf

So... how does that suggest that gravity has a local component?


19 posted on 11/02/2009 9:55:58 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo

20 posted on 11/02/2009 9:57:24 PM PST by altair (All I want for Christmas is NO legislation passed for the rest of the year)
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