Beating a dead Darwinius masillae for fun and profit

Annuit Coeptis ^ | 05/20/2009 | Paul Zannucci

[Jeliota]

Hailed as the “Holy Grail of human evolution” by the New York Daily News, and by lead scientist John Hurom as “like finding the Lost Ark,” Ida is now officially on the road to pop-culture celebrity, being imbued with all the nonsensical notions that such creatures are typically imbued with.

[Jeliota]

This whole circus has been shameful, but even more than usual.

[chuck_the_tv_out]

if people will elect a foreign-born cokehead with terrorist ties and no resume as president of America, then unfortunately, they’ll fall for whatever crud you spin at them.

[RegulatorCountry]

... and what a cute name, Ida. Do they even know if it was female?

[OldGuard1]

Ever notice how modern liberals love to wear the mantle of “science” on their sleeves while pushing pseudosciences (evolution, global warming, etc) designed to get other agendas passed?

If you look at history, this is nothing new. The Soviet Union prided itself on its supposed scientific superiority, while meanwhile their own breed of pseudoscientists ran the show. For example, Trofim Denisovich Lysenko pushed all sorts of pseudoscience theories that played well to a Soviet audience, such as that if you plant crops close enough together, they’ll be forced to work together collectively and will give better yields — to disastrous results. Mao’s China did the same sort of thing and ended up causing the largest famine in human history.

[Jeliota]

They actually might. Something I read said that they were able to examine the contents of her stomach, so “she” was pretty well intact.

Nevertheless, cute and female certainly sells, so they probably would have called her Ida anyway.

[Jeliota]

Absolutely. Science is often seen as an opportunity for selling “change.” Think about all the eugenics movements that surrounded darwinism, and the “survival of the fittest” concepts that inspired Germans to run amok.

[Buck W.]

“Ever notice how modern liberals love to wear the mantle of “science” on their sleeves while pushing pseudosciences (evolution, global warming, etc) designed to get other agendas passed?”

Ever notice how creation rationalizationists label anyone who opposes their position as “liberal” and attempt to equate real science (evolution) with political misdirection (global warming)?

[ScreamingFist]

A team of researchers Tuesday unveiled an almost perfectly intact fossil of a 47 million-year-old primate they say represents the long-sought missing link between humans and apes.

Just proves to me that they don't have a F'ing clue....and their other theories are BS as well.

[OldGuard1]

attempt to equate real science (evolution) with political misdirection (global warming)?

Oh, come now - evolution is being pushed by the same kind of liberal atheists as global warming. Just because you happen to believe in it doesn't make it any less of a liberal pseudoscience. Their godless worldview and dreams of a purely secular United States simply can't exist without it, so they -have- to push it on the public.

Just like with global warming, a lot of people just accept it because, "someone smart with a degree said it's true, so it must be!"

[RegulatorCountry]

You’re dangerously close to worshipping the creature, rather than the Creator, Buck W., all the while protesting that you’re Christian. You clearly hold science, in the form of evolution, in higher esteem.

[Jeliota]

You have to admit, regardless of the merits or demerits of evolution, which I steadfastly refuse to argue with anyone anymore, that there is more than a passing similarity between the way that this discovery has been hailed and the way that agw is constantly publisized, and that both are adored by the msm.

It may, as you seem to feel, be an unfortunate alliance by association, but the similarity is there.

[AndrewC]

This whole circus has been shameful, but even more than usual.

You can say that again!

Did you know that we had these things in common with Ida?

1. Brains
2. Eyes
3. Face
4. Arms
5. Hands
6. Feet

But no tail.

Ida's Anatomy
Explore the anatomical traits you have in common with this 47 million year old primate.

I resemble that remark!!!

[kitkat]

***... and what a cute name, Ida. Do they even know if it was female?***

Given the propensity of some modern scientists for pop star treatment without proof of accomplishment, I suspect the name Ida is short for Idano.

[Jeliota]

That page at Revealing the Link is pretty vague. There has to be some reason (maybe) that they highlighted those specific features. Why not highlight the ribcage and spinal column?

That’s rhetorically asked. I don’t have the energy to try to find out at this point.

[GodGunsGuts]

Unfortunately, your graphic is being blocked by my computer. I’ll check it when I get home. Can you believe they are pushing Ida with such fanfare, given all the false or phony “missing links” the Evos have put forward in the past? Do these guys go out of their way to ruin their credibility? Or are they really that blinded by their Evo-religion?

[AndrewC]

That page at Revealing the Link is pretty vague.

Precisely. Forward facing eyes?

Anyway....

I knew it all along.

[tacticalogic]

Just wait. In 20 years the geologists will still be finding the “missing link”, and the creationists will still be driving the last nail into ToE’s coffin.

[Jeliota]

Ugh. I see. You click on the red dots to see their “reasoning,” which is pretty much as vague as life without the red dots.

[Jeliota]

A truer statement I’ve never read.

[allmendream]

Yes, and Lysenko said that evolution through natural selection, with its focus on the individual and differential outcomes; was a bourgeoisie capitalist idea and rejected it in favor of a Lamarkian mechanism.

Anyone who believed in genes, chromosomes, and evolution through natural selection was fired, persecuted, arrested, shot and/or exiled.