Posted on 04/06/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by DrGop0821
Who is this guy? Has he ever studied history? Read anything from the Founding Fathers?
I understand "freedom of religion", but should he be saying this in a Muslim country?
Oh... that's right! This is Barack Obama who hates America, hates capitalism and wants to destroy us from within!
This is nice; now he's attacking religion and our Judeo-Christian value system this country was built upon.
(Excerpt) Read more at conservativexpress.blogspot.com ...
The US was founded on the basic moral and ethical principles of Judeo-Christianity.
The way he’s saying it is wrong. He is wrong about everything because he is a very evil man.
Only in immigration, and that actually extends to Jewish grandparentage, since that was the basis of persecution. Many recent immigrants, particularly from Russia, aren’t Jewish. Social services, marriage, education and such, are denomination based, so there’s the typical squabbling about who’s getting their fair share of funding and who isn’t. But that’s not institutional, and Conservative and Reform Jews aren’t recognized at all. And occasional complaints that veterans get preferential employment opportunities, though non Jews can enlist, they just aren’t drafted. Israel actually has more practitioners of minority religions, around 20%, than the US, though they’re largely Muslim.
Just a bit of a lesson on the Constitution.
What this means is that the USA will not have an official religion. England had an official religion, The Church of England, the Anglican Church.
At the time of the founding of the Republic and the ratification of the Constitution, Congregationalism was the official religion in the New England Colonies.
The Founders wanted to protect against any State religion.
The fact that over 80% of Americans self-identify as Christian, says something about America. The fact that America was founded on Judeo-Christian values, and continues to operate under these values says the same thing.
Obama is a fool.
I believe he was trying to say we are not a theocracy - which is probably the only correct thing he's said in a long time.
Your opening sentence seems to encapsulate an interesting thread accurately.
Such racist beliefs cannot be called Christianity because they have nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus’ teachings or any actual Christian theology or tradition.
It’s racism with a marxist/muslim flavor with a label “Christianity” tacked on. You can take a bottle of cyanide and paste a label “Grape Juice” on it. Doesn’t make it grape juice.
WTF
Yes, essentially marxism advocated as a religious imperative, but consistant with his rejection of the Christian faith of the Founders.
See my post #95 ?
SJackson, Obama’s form of “Christianity” does not believe in the divinity of Christ. Neither the United Church of Christ, nor the Liberation Theologists believe in the divinity of Christ or the Holy Spirit. They believe as Muslims do, that Christ was a great teacher and example of the love thy neighbor kind of religion.
barry, you SOB. FUBO!
You post that contrarian statement .. in light of all the foundational data on the site I posted?
So having been presented with indisputable documentation of what’s known about the mindset of the Founders, you still persist in being vested in purposeful selectivity and historical revisionism.
LOL .... that’s irrational.
I don’t waste time with those who appear to be intractably irrational.
S’long.
Another atheist or evolutionist with an ax to grind. Push that crap someplace else or maybe study more of the founding Fathers and the beginnings of the nation instead of liberal professors and public education.
You can argue that you don’t believe the Founders were right but you cannot without being ignorant or spreading lies argue they were not pro Christian nation...
The word, “Christian” not being in the Constitution is a lame and lazy argument.
Don’t hold your breath. My panties are not in a knot, rather it’s your logic and understanding of the founding of this country that seems to be all twisted up.
How about I wait for you to rebut what I said instead of you wasting my time with these adolescent digs.
He certainly does NOT speak for me.
I wondered how long before this one came up. Pathetic, like the attempts to excuse Obama’s blunders by saying Bush was worse. Read the history behind it, instead of just using it as a bumper sticker talking point designed to obfuscate.
Well, there is this from the Treaty with Tripoli (1791):
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
It was stupid of Obama to make that comment, but the sentiment was expressed during the Adams administration.
Then again, someone checked the Arabic and found out that Article 11 didn't appear there, Adams and Congress didn't object to the translation, though.
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