Posted on 03/22/2009 8:15:37 AM PDT by pissant
When I broke the explosive exclusive last June that Obama's COLB (certificate of live birth) was a "horrible forgery," it took a couple of days, but the O-bots sent around this "birth announcement". That too apparently was a forgery.
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Not sure why you are addressing this comment to me. Of course it is a problem (for Obama) if the announcements are forgeries. Do you have some difficulty with the English language?
ML/NJ
Not many I’d think.
interesting
Oh wait, it didn’t come out the same day, the paper is dated August 13, 1961
There are some who say they were in Seattle at the same time. Don’t know though.
I am NOT saying he is X’s son. I’m just saying I do recognize a very very similiar voice.
0bama’s Valley Forge ping...
Put out the call for someone who might have saved that page for some reason. Maybe the other folks on that page saved it for their announcements.
The birth announcement appeared in “The Honolulu Advertiser” Sunday, August 13,1961 and in “The Star-Bulletin” Wednesday, August 16, 1961. One copy appears on microfiche while the other is on microfilm, but what people are failing to recognize is that the mere fact of filing a birth would generate a birth announcement, so Grandma Dunham, merely on her word could have registered the birth and the announcement could have appeared in both papers!
On the matter of Malcolm X, he was never in Seattle as I confirmed by going through the FBI surveillance files released under the FOIA for the years from 1958 through to early 1963. He went to a variety of places but never Seattle and the farthest west he went was LA after the violence there in ‘62, and he was in Chicago(headquarters for NOI) as well as St. Louis, Washington D.C. and NYC as well as his trip to the middle east with a stop in Ghana.
It would be very relevant if the announcements were forged, especially if recently forged.
But there is no valid evidence they were forged. I don't follow the Linotype argument either. I think the announcements are genuine. As for the money and the copy, my understanding is there wasn't any money, and the copy (or at least the data supporting it) flowed from the hospital directly to the newspapers. The process was automatic; the family did not need to be involved.
Of course, if the proud parents wanted a more prominent positioning of the announcement, they probably could have provided money and copy, as you did to the NYT. But that does not appear to be the case here.
Hey Chief. What is your source for those announcements being on Microfilm and or Microfiche? Feet on the ground say they weren’t. And I’ve posted showing they were forged.
Anyway, I called mother about this story and she (who I am ashamed to admit votes RAT) said it's possible to have the columns and rows at an angle only if someone took the time and effort to re-pour the spacers and to fill in the blank corners with lead. Everything is done by hand. Yes, it's possible if one wanted to emphasis something but would really serve no purpose in this instance. It was more expedient to never move the columns from issue to issue and you already knew which font to use for a particular section of the paper. Everything was at 90 degrees for a reason.
I would like to see other copies of the newspaper from the week before and the week after to see if there was similar goofs in other issues.
Where does your understanding come from?
ML/NJ
>>>>On the matter of Malcolm X, he was never in Seattle as I confirmed by going through the FBI surveillance files released under the FOIA for the years from 1958 through to early 1963.
The FOIA papers has a section titled Seattle Washington.
This is an easy issue to resolve. There will be microfilm or microfiche copies of both Honolulu papers at one or more public or college libraries on Oahu and possibly some of the other islands in Hawaii. A quick trip to the library for any conservative in Hawaii could resolve that.
I’ve never put much stock in conspiracy theories and do not buy into the Obama ones. Nobody has proved he was not natural born, and until and unless that happens, we are stuck with him until January 20th, 2013. God help us all...
This is supposedly from that microfiche. I’m not putting too much stock into it. Seems to me a very limited analysis.
The Advertiser put out an article a while back with a ‘hyperlink’ to a PDF of the claimed Microfiche copy to prove the announcement was legit. This analysis Atlas Shrug is reporting on is based on the PI’s analysis of the claimed microfiche from the Advertiser.
I see Atlas Shrugs still has techdude’s suspicious BC analysis up too.
Thanks Chief. I wasn’t positive about any of it, just read rumors and speculation.
Hey, how’s your wife(?) or was it you that had surgery?
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