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Obama is not what we want
Gadsden Times ^ | 2/6/09 | Ed Pullen

Posted on 02/07/2009 8:19:40 AM PST by classical artist

Barack Obama’s paternal grandmother has sworn she was present when Barack was born in Kenya. His backers provided a fake certificate of birth, which didn’t fool many people. He was born August 1961 and the certificate was printed on a form revised November 2001. The certificate’s number was also blocked out. A lawyer in PA., Philip Berg, sued Obama and the DNC to get the "proof" that Obama was a natural born U.S. citizen. U.S. District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed the suit, saying the lawyer had no standing to challenge Obama’s citizenship. The judge did not explain what this meant. At present, there are eight other states ready to file lawsuit on this. The constitution was not created to have people "thumb their nose" at it, but as a rock solid rule to help our country live long and prosper. There is a lot of housecleaning to be done, but who is going to do it? Unless things change, don’t be surprised if our next president turns out to be "Arnold" or even Hugo Chavez.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: berg; bho2008; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; constitutionisdead; democratscandals; eligibility; ineligible; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; truthers
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To: curiosity

If you really are a professor you should know how to do research, yes? Research what happens to a child’s BC once they are adopted. I have -BO was adopted so the so called BC on his website should read Soetoro. Even if he changed his name back to Obama his BC should read Soetoro. The original BC is sealed & can only be viewed w/ a court order.
But you really do not want to know the truth.


41 posted on 02/07/2009 4:41:06 PM PST by classical artist
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To: Popman

The “rest of the people don’t care”, but they don’t know!


42 posted on 02/07/2009 4:48:53 PM PST by classical artist
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To: classical artist
If you really are a professor you should know how to do research, yes? Research what happens to a child’s BC once they are adopted.

What makes you think he was ever adopted?

43 posted on 02/07/2009 4:49:50 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Popman; Scanian
people who are stuck on this issue
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Freepers who care deeply about the Constitution and any president's eligibility for the office of president can be found posting on a **wide** variety of topics.. Freepers who respect the Constitution are are very capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.

It is odd though that many of the Obama “Afterbirth Mop-uppers” **only** post on these birth certificate threads, and many have signed up for FR within the past few days, weeks, or months.

Gee! Do you think there could be Obama “Afterbirth Mop-upper” trolls ( paid or voluteer) on Free Republic?

44 posted on 02/07/2009 5:14:11 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Popman
Zero has already proven at least to the SCOTUS, he minimally is legal,

When did he do that, how did he do that, and where is a link to it?

but the BC issue has been settled

How has it been settled? Link please or what ever document

45 posted on 02/07/2009 5:40:27 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: classical artist

Obama’s original birth certificate and other documents will be subpoened eventually for examination and he’ll be removed from office.


46 posted on 02/07/2009 5:43:35 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Scanian
Saying “no standing” over and over doesn’t settle squat. Gutless wonders!

If those bringing cases before the court have no standing in this matter do you want the court to invent standing?

47 posted on 02/07/2009 9:45:37 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: curiosity; classical artist
What makes you think he was ever adopted?

Atleast two pieces of documentary evidence:

1]His application to school in Indonesia lists his name as "Barry Soetoro".

2]The divorce papers [divorce from Lolo Soetoro posted here on FR] list two children of their marriage and states that he does not provide child support for them. Child support is only expected if those children are your own -- by birth or adoption.

48 posted on 02/08/2009 6:17:57 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
1]His application to school in Indonesia lists his name as "Barry Soetoro".

Proves nothing. You don't need to be legally adopted to use your stepfather's name.

2]The divorce papers [divorce from Lolo Soetoro posted here on FR] list two children of their marriage and states that he does not provide child support for them. Child support is only expected if those children are your own -- by birth or adoption.

Also proves nothing. The laws on child support are not as cut and dry as you claim, and Soetoro's lawyer likely put that clause in just be be on the safe side to prevent future legal headaches. "Hell hath no fury...".

49 posted on 02/08/2009 1:04:08 PM PST by curiosity
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

But at least this is a fun conspiracy theory led by Phil Berg, a guy who thinks Bush and Cheney are responsible for the 9/11 attacks, Leo Donofrio, a man who believes black helicopters are flying over his house and Joseph Farah, a man who believes that pterodactyls are flying over his head.


50 posted on 02/08/2009 1:18:00 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Frantzie
"Well the shills here on FR keep hijacking threads trying to make the BC go away. I am prohibited by the rules here from calling them shills in the threads."

Not really. The Birthers will keep bringing up the issue and some of us will continue to offer the amount of ridicule that we feel the issue deserves. That is the beauty of a public forum.

51 posted on 02/08/2009 1:25:50 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Uncle Chip
1]His application to school in Indonesia lists his name as "Barry Soetoro".

You are right. Here is that document.

Interestingly, that same document states that Barry was born in Honolulu.

Therefore, he is a Natural Born Citizen.

52 posted on 02/08/2009 1:26:35 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Uncle Chip
Sorry about that:

Here is the Indonesian school record that proves Barry was born in Hawaii.


53 posted on 02/08/2009 1:32:35 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
That's one thing that really amuses me about the birthers who bring up that document. It lists Hawaii as the Birthplace!

Come on, birthers, you can't have it both ways. Either the document is reliable, or it's not. Which is it?

54 posted on 02/08/2009 1:42:45 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

See 50.


55 posted on 02/08/2009 2:38:04 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Interestingly, that same document states that Barry was born in Honolulu. Therefore, he is a Natural Born Citizen.

So then he was born "Barry Soetoro" in Honolulu -- Is that what you are now claiming??? Interesting.

56 posted on 02/08/2009 5:08:38 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: curiosity
Proves nothing.

It's called "evidence" --

You don't need to be legally adopted to use your stepfather's name

Oh, so a five year old filled out that application??? Interesting.

Soetoro's lawyers likely put that clause in just be be on the safe side to prevent future legal headaches. "Hell hath no fury...".

Do you have some documentary proof for that statement or are you just prone to vivid imaginations???

57 posted on 02/08/2009 5:25:54 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: curiosity; trumandogz
That's one thing that really amuses me about the birthers who bring up that document. It lists Hawaii as the Birthplace!

So then he was born "Barry Soetoro" according to this document according to you, right???

58 posted on 02/08/2009 5:29:47 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: curiosity
Come on, birthers, you can't have it both ways. Either the document is reliable, or it's not. Which is it?

Come on, Obamabots, you can't have it both ways. Either he was born "Barry Soetoro" in Hawaii or he was not??? Which is it????

59 posted on 02/08/2009 5:33:13 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
It's called "evidence" --

Sure, it's evidence he was born in Hawaii, and it's also evidence he at least sometimes was called "Barry Soetero" while living in Indonesia. That's about it.

Oh, so a five year old filled out that application??? Interesting.

No, his step father probably filled it out. What's your point?

Do you have some documentary proof for that statement or are you just prone to vivid imaginations???

I have no less documentary proof of that statement than you have documentary proof that he was adopted.

60 posted on 02/08/2009 5:59:07 PM PST by curiosity
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