Posted on 12/12/2008 12:41:10 PM PST by Polarik
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Yes, it's hard to believe that it has been six months to the day that the Daily Kos published the biggest forgery in American history since Operation Bullpen. I mention Operation Bullpen because it has direct relevance to Barack Obama, the forging of a President. For those of you who have never heard of it, think "Autographed sports memorabilia," a $billion dollar a year industry, of which the American public was ripped off to the tune of over $100 million in "forged baseballs, footballs, basketballs, jerseys, photographs," or basically anything a sports star could have touched in his or her career.
Anyone care to guess in what major city this multimillion dollar forging ring began?
CHICAGO, CHICAGO, THAT WONDERFUL TOWN!
Oh, yeah. Chicago is not just known for its corrupt politicians, it's where Operation Bullpen began. It was launched by the FBI as a way to crack down on memorabilia forgeries that were occurring daily in the hot sports market of Chicago, where the signatures of Michael Jordan and other hometown athletes were being forged daily.
According to Kevin Nelson, the author of book, Operation Bullpen: The Inside Story of the Biggest Forgery Ring in American History,
On October 13, 1999, four hundred federal agents staged coordinated morning raids across five states on sixty homes and businesses -- one of the largest one-day takedowns in FBI history, breaking up the biggest, most profitable forgery ring in the annals of American crime. They raided Greg's house, Rino's, Stan the Man's and a whole bunch of others, seizing $10 million in forged goods and a half-million in cash on that day alone. It was one for the record books.
As far as the record books go, there is nothing to compare to the Obama COLB forgery. It helped to net a Presidential candidate a whopping $750 million in campaign donations, and is continuing to help him six months later, using it as a political weapon to avoid having to show proof of who he is, where and when he was born, and to whom. Besides ripping off the American voter, what Obama stands to gain in terms of world power to go along with his worldly goods, is beyond the imagination.
What is also beyond the imagination, is how any sane person could accept as being equivalent to a real, original, "vault," paper, birth certificate, a poorly-made image of a transcript that, even if it were real, could not be used to prove one's original identity and citizenship. People continue to believe that what was posted online six months ago is a genuine copy of Obama's real, original birth certificate.
Just the other day, as if they did not know anything about American politics, the public became painfully aware that lying, cheating, stealing, and extorting one's way into public office in Illinois, is the NORM, and not the exception. Except for a complete unknown, for whom no school records, medical records, Selective Service records, AND a REAL original birth certificate, has ever be provided to the American people. This is also the same person who has been acting as if he has been the President going back to before the election.
Despite being provided with several boatloads of forgery evidence that could sink a dozen Titanics, a large segment of society refuses to believe that Obama could ever do anything wrong, like having someone forge a document for him, or believe that Obama could easily be just as corrupt as every other politician to come through the grist mill of Chicago politics.
Yes, history was made six months ago, first by the Daily Kos leftist blog, then Obama's campaign website, and followed in short order by a joined-at-the-hip political "public interest" group who made lying online into an art form. More than any other person or agency has done more to perpetuate the myth that Obama has fully disclosed his real birth certificate.
They have also set the tone of how to denigrate, disparage, and to dismiss anyone as a "tin-foil wingnut," having the AUDACITY to question the validity of this bogus COLB image, a "Certification of Live Birth," that is a certified "fake" and every bit as bogus as a baseball with Mother Teresa's signature on it (Yes, this was one of the bogus baseballs that the forgery ring was selling!) Factcheck did more to encourage the hostile and boorish behavior of Obamabots of whom we continue to see on FR, over and over again over these past six months.
People will believe anything that they want to be true, regardless of whether it is true or not, and they would rather "Kill the Messenger" than to hear the message. The claims of authenticity for this clearly manufacturer image, have exceeded all bounds of reason and humanity, and the levels of ludicrousness they have reached in making excuses for the forgery are surpassed only in their zeal to viciously attack the standard bearers of truth.
Factcheck should forever be known as Fraud Check for the way that they compounded the crime of posting a forged document image online by a factor of nine, when they created and posted a set of phony Photoshopped photos that provided even more ammunition to the forgery hunters. Never has an act of stupidity as this been given this much credit.
So, where is Factcheck on the anniversary of the crime? Well, just the day before, they conveniently decided to fold up the tents and get out of Dodge, leaving behind a "Good-bye for now" video that took even more cheap shots at the patriots in America who demand accountability from their leaders.
If you are new to the birth certificate controversy and the COLB conspiracy, or you've been lurking here all along, you should know by now that, not only have I done what no one else has done, but that I will not engage others who wish just to bate me. It is just not going to happen. When I posted my final Report -- which everyone should read again -- that I will not respond to challenges. Certainly not to those whose only interest is to throw stones. For the few out there who foolishly think that I have been bested by someone else who intentionally flaunts his degree and experience, and who is not fighting the fraud as I am. They can pick on me all they want, but I will continue to pick apart the myth of Obama's birth certificate nevertheless. Obviously, they do not know me, how my research was done, and what it has proven to be true.
Nor do they get the gravity of the situation here, either. The Bogus COLB issue, or Certifigate, is NOT going away. Not now. Not ever. Not until people who perpetrated this fraud are held accountable for their actions. It may not come tomorrow. It may not come before the Electoral College meets. It may not even come until after the Oath of Office is taken, but come it will, because the statute of limitations will not go away either.
I’m not sure when it was originally posted, but I found it months ago as the story was starting to get big. Even if Zerobama was born in Honolulu, there’s an extremely good likelihood that any proof (i.e. - vault birth certificate) will also serve as proof of the fraud of his COLB.
“Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck- MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!”
I don’t really understand how you are so quick to discount the opinions of these conservatives, who have worked for years to further the cause of conservative government. Yet, you are equally as quick to accept the opinion of someone who has admitted to using a fake name, and has shown absolutely no credentials to support his expert opinions.
Polarik, I mean no offense by this, as there are clearly many reasons why you have done things the way you have done them. Personally, i need to see some actual credentials before I am inclined to believe your opinions.
“I don’t really understand how you are so quick to discount the opinions of these conservatives, who have worked for years to further the cause of conservative government. Yet, you are equally as quick to accept the opinion of someone who has admitted to using a fake name, and has shown absolutely no credentials to support his expert opinions.”
Let me ‘splain dis to you as best I can.
It has nothing to do with Polarik, nothing, zero, nada. I don’t even pay attention to that part of the arguement.
What I do pay attention to is the fact that he has not shown his BC and proved his COLB. The cert that he has provided was issued to anyone moving to HI that had had a baby in the previous 12 months to show that they had a live birth. That is why it is referred to as “Certificate of Live Birth”.
There are two many other questions surrounding his COLB to just turn over and say move on.
My issue with ALL the people on the list in my tagline is this: This is a huge story, there are currently 21 lawsuits filed in reference to this issue. And not ONE WORD from any of our so called conservative talking heads, nothing.
Certainly you must agree that they could do nothing more than talk about what is and isn’t there. Like there are 21 lawsuits.
But not a word. I listened to Rush for over 18 years, recently I stopped due to this one issue.
The whole lot of them are phonies in MHO. After being off for three days all Rush could talk about the first day back was his interview with Barbara Wawa and the girls on the View talking about him. Who cares? He is in my opion becoming a very self absorbed person.
On the cutting edge of nothing except his inflated ego.
No you don't, nor anyone else using that excuse. Because:
1. You have expressed no reservations with electing a man who has refused to show his paper birth certificate, medical records, passports, school records, and many other paper credentials, even privately to members of Congress, the FBI, CIA, and NSA -- and who has absolutely NO valid reason to refuse their release.
2. If what was posted on the Daily Kos, FTS, and Factcheck is valid, which is not, then all of the information on it is public record. Period. So, there is NO reason at all to refuse to show a paper Certification of Live Birth which is alleged to have been used to make this scan image.
3. There is no reason not to have made a scan of the reverse side of Obama's COLB, if it were real, because the reverse side is where the validation stamps appear.
4. By your own logic, you should believe whatever Dr. Neal Krawetz says since you have Dr. Neal Krawetz's name (who has gone to extraordinary lengths to make it known), and you have heard him say, or have seen something posted online to the effect he has a PhD in Computer Science. Therefore, you believe Neal Krawetz ONLY BECAUSE he is using a name that can be found elsewhere -- but one for which you have no proof that it is his current legal name. He could have easily changed it before he enrolled in college. Plus, you are putting unsubstantiated stock in what that degree encompasses. Did you see his transcripts? Nope. Do you know what is his area of exertise or specialization? HINT: it is not image graphics.
5. So, you are "inclined" to believe what Kraweat has to say because you are able to see his name, which may or may not be his legal name, and see his degree title, for which you have no idea what classes he has taken, how well he has done in them, what was the subject of his dissertation, if he was required to do one, and if anything that he has done has any bearing, whatsoever, on the skill sets required to do what I have done.
Bottom line: would you bet the ranch on Kraweta being right and me being wrong on one, single topic?
There are many here who are RINO trolls and down right leftists. So they are here pretending to support our ideals but the true light shines through and reveals who they are.
***I agree, and I’ve tried to something about it. When I brought it recently to JimRob’s attention in an attempt to get him to consider my idealogy litmus matrix idea, he called me a newbie. It’s frustrating.
Has anyone checked the SCOTUS website to see if there are new developments tonight?
I don’t show any news coming from the Supreme Court but there’s some oral news relayed from the Wrotnowski folks.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/121208zr.pdf
SCOTUS Spokesperson Just Told Cort Wrotnowski There Has Been no Decision [Update]
Natural Born Citizen ^ | December 12, 2008 11:26 AM | Leo Donofrio
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Well maybe to him you are a newbie :-)
Well maybe to him you are a newbie :-)
***Everyone is, right? But he’s listening to people who signed up in 2001 or 2004 or 2007 rather than 1998, so calling me a newbie is just some kind of sideshow ridicule rather than dealing with the problem we have on this forum.
Thank you, you are a real Patriot.
When I check a couple of pages of comments of some of these thread-chaser whose sole purpose is to repeat the same defeated statements over and over again, they are almost always liberal/leftist talking points. Some ONLY post on the 0bama threads, others have been around longer and post liberal crap about other topics.
They’re all over the place lately.
I agree. I think it would help if you pinged JimRob with your weigh in.
Speaking of Chicago and sports scandals, wasn’t it the Sox who were accused of throwing the World Series in the 20’s?
Yep. Chicago White Sox. Shoeless Joe Jackson. "Eight Men Out."
I have three questions for you and would appreciate hearing your opinion. Actually I would like anyone to weigh in if they can answer my questions or give their opinions.
We will know Monday whether the Justices will hear Cort’s case. Do you think it is possible that the SC Justices will consider joining the cases together and hear them AFTER the Electoral College vote due to the fact that Obama will not actually BE “President-Elect” until AFTER the vote on Monday?
I understand that a Judge in the Washington State SC has decided to hear a case. (I hope what I heard is correct.)
Is it possible for the Washington Supreme Court Judge to issue a stay in that State’s Electoral College vote on Monday?
The Electoral College meet at each state capital to cast their votes on Monday. If one or more Electoral College members of a particular state raise the question of constitutional qualifications, does that state Electoral College group have to resolve the issue before casting their votes?
I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but unless it is a class-action suit, court protocol dictates that each case be heard separately, even if the cases seem to be parallel.
Each case has to be judged individually, but that does not mean everyone gets equal time.
For example, if the SCOTUS issues a ruling on a case to which there are parallel cases to be heard after the ruling is issued, then they would issue a summary judgment based on the prescident set by the previous case and ruling.
Although this is an unprescidented issue where the there are challenges to the Constitutional qualifications of a candidate for President selected during the general election to serve as POTUS, the issue of who has standing to challenge an election result is an issue that has been previously resolved. Berg's suit was dismissed for that reason, even though the case is unique and the circumstances surrounding it are unlike any other challenge ever heard by the court.
There were challenges made to McCain's citizenship status during the campaign that were quickly resolved when he presented his genuine, original birth certificates, and the Senate passed a resolution to confirm his natural-born status.
McCain's situation is totally different from Obama, because Obama still has not presented any valid evidence that would positively confirm where, when, or to whom he was born, and, added to that deficit is the fact that his mother (the only parent with US citizenship) could not confer her citizenship at birth, according to the prevailing US Statutes at the time.
McCain, on the other hand, was born to two US citizens at an American Naval base in the Panama Canal Zone, and the intent of Article II was not to penalize a child born to US citizens who, because of one or more them had no choice but to serve our country in the military overseas.
But, like i said, that's why this matter is going to the highest court in the land.
The first image is a repeat copy of the Certification of Live Birth document which has been repeatedly “published” on a number of web sites as the Official version of Obama’s birth record from the State of Hawaii.
According to this document his full proper name is Barack Hussein Obama II. Also note that there is no actual place of birth (hospital, plantation, farm, pine apple field, log cabin, manger, etc.) shown in this document.
I am sure that Chief Justice Roberts, before he swears in Obama as President of the United States, will personally review, “sua sponte” or on the judge’s' own initiative, an actual vaulted copy of the original long form of Obama's birthing records which the State of Hawaii, Director of Health, Chiyome Fukino, MD has publicly announced that she has on file. /s/off
It would be shame for the Chief Justice Roberts of the United States to go down in history as the first Chief Justice on his first try to incorrectly swear in a new President of the United States by not using his full and correct name even if he was not born in this country.
As a point of comparison please note the second image in this post. This is what a genuine Copy of a Certificate of Live Birth (some data redacted) issued by the State of Hawaii, Department of Health in July 1962 for the Birth of a male child in February 1962 on the Island of Oahu looks like. Note in this document the State of Hawaii, Department of Health official embossed seal and official signatures of the then Director of Health, Leo Bernstein, MD and the then Registrar General, Charles G. Bennett. The State of Hawaii officials' signatures and the date the document was issued are underlined in red. This document is a photographic copied image. It is a black background document with white letters which clearly were created by a 1962 typewriter.
A document similar to this is what most of the lawsuits about the record of birth of Obama are asking to be released for public viewing. Of course the United State Supreme Court, all nine members, is refusing to see and review a similar document for Barack Hussein Obama II.
Please note boxes #6a through 6d of the document shown in the second image. There is key data to be found in #6 boxes and well as the supporting data as in the #7 boxes in the first image. The Hawaiian Director of Health's complete public statement clearly made no references to the key data to be found in #6 boxes and well as the supporting data as in the #7 boxes in the first image. Box #16 (New Hampshire) shows the birth place of the mother. Box#15 shows the age of mother. Box#14 shows the race of mother. Box #11(Pennsylvania)shows the birth place of the father. Box #10 shows the age of father. Box #9 shows the race of father. (In the modern secular world this person would also be known as the sperm donor.)
Box #18a shows the signature of the Parent or Other Informant who states that “I certify that the above information stated is true and correct to the best of my knowledge”. This person is effectively signing for the right to name the new born. Box #18b shows the date of this signature.
Also please note that in the first image no Department of Health official embossed seal, which should be raised and can be seen embedded in the paper, is to be found on this (official) document.
Judge Robert, please note.
What is the legally recorded birth name of the person you are going swear in as the next President of the United States of America on January 20, 2009?
PS: Would you marry someone without checking the validity of their marriage license?
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The first image is a copy of the Certification of Live Birth document which has been repeatedly “published” on a number of web sites as the Official version of Obama’s birth records from the State of Hawaii.
According to this document his full and legal proper name at birth is Barack Hussein Obama II. Also note that there is no actual place of birth (hospital, plantation, farm, pine apple field, log cabin, manger, etc.) shown in this document.
I am sure that Chief Justice Roberts, before he swears in Obama as President of the United States, will personally review “sua sponte”, or on the judge’s' own initiative, an actual vaulted copy of the original long form of Obama's birthing records which the State of Hawaii, Director of Health, Chiyome Fukino, MD has publicly announced that she has on file. /s/off
It would be shame for the Chief Justice Roberts of the United States on his first try to go down in history as the first Chief Justice to incorrectly swear in a new President of the United States by not using his full and correct name even if he was not born in this country.
As a point of comparison please note the second image in this post. This is what a genuine Copy of a Certificate of Live Birth (some data redacted) issued by the State of Hawaii, Department of Health in July 1962 for the Birth of a male child in February 1962 on the Island of Oahu looks like. Note in this document the State of Hawaii, Department of Health official embossed seal and official signatures of the then Director of Health, Leo Bernstein, MD and the then Registrar General, Charles G. Bennett. The State of Hawaii officials' signatures and the date the document was issued are underlined in red. This document is a photographic copied image. It is a black background document with white letters which clearly were created by a 1962 typewriter.
A document similar to this is what most of the lawsuits about the record of birth of Obama are asking to be released for public viewing. Of course the United State Supreme Court, all nine members, is refusing to see and review a similar document for Barack Hussein Obama II.
The Hawaiian officials complete public statement clearly made no references to the key data to be found in #6 boxes and well as the supporting data as in the #7 boxes in the first image. Box #16 (New Hampshire) shows the birth place of the mother. Box#15 shows the age of mother. Box#14 shows the race of mother. Box #11 (Pennsylvania) shows the birth place of the father. Box #10 shows the age of father. Box #9 shows the race of father. (In the modern secular world this person would also be known as the sperm donor.)
Box #18a shows the signature of the Parent or Other Informant who states that “I certify that the above stated information is true and correct to the best of my knowledge”. This person is effectively signing for the right to name the new born. Box #18b shows the date of this signature
Also please note that in the first image no Department of Health official embossed seal, which should be raised and embedded in the paper, is to be found on this (official) document. See the second image as a point of comparison.
Judge Robert, please note.
What is the legally recorded birth name of the person you are going swear in as the next President of the United States of America on January 20, 2009?
PS: Would you marry someone without checking the validity of their marriage license?
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