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To: stockpirate; Polarik

“Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck- MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!”

I don’t really understand how you are so quick to discount the opinions of these conservatives, who have worked for years to further the cause of conservative government. Yet, you are equally as quick to accept the opinion of someone who has admitted to using a fake name, and has shown absolutely no credentials to support his expert opinions.

Polarik, I mean no offense by this, as there are clearly many reasons why you have done things the way you have done them. Personally, i need to see some actual credentials before I am inclined to believe your opinions.


22 posted on 12/12/2008 2:55:33 PM PST by ga medic
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To: ga medic

“I don’t really understand how you are so quick to discount the opinions of these conservatives, who have worked for years to further the cause of conservative government. Yet, you are equally as quick to accept the opinion of someone who has admitted to using a fake name, and has shown absolutely no credentials to support his expert opinions.”

Let me ‘splain dis to you as best I can.

It has nothing to do with Polarik, nothing, zero, nada. I don’t even pay attention to that part of the arguement.

What I do pay attention to is the fact that he has not shown his BC and proved his COLB. The cert that he has provided was issued to anyone moving to HI that had had a baby in the previous 12 months to show that they had a live birth. That is why it is referred to as “Certificate of Live Birth”.

There are two many other questions surrounding his COLB to just turn over and say move on.

My issue with ALL the people on the list in my tagline is this: This is a huge story, there are currently 21 lawsuits filed in reference to this issue. And not ONE WORD from any of our so called conservative talking heads, nothing.

Certainly you must agree that they could do nothing more than talk about what is and isn’t there. Like there are 21 lawsuits.

But not a word. I listened to Rush for over 18 years, recently I stopped due to this one issue.

The whole lot of them are phonies in MHO. After being off for three days all Rush could talk about the first day back was his interview with Barbara Wawa and the girls on the View talking about him. Who cares? He is in my opion becoming a very self absorbed person.

On the cutting edge of nothing except his inflated ego.


23 posted on 12/12/2008 3:12:31 PM PST by stockpirate (Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck- MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!)
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To: ga medic
Personally, i need to see some actual credentials before I am inclined to believe your opinions.

No you don't, nor anyone else using that excuse. Because:

1. You have expressed no reservations with electing a man who has refused to show his paper birth certificate, medical records, passports, school records, and many other paper credentials, even privately to members of Congress, the FBI, CIA, and NSA -- and who has absolutely NO valid reason to refuse their release.

2. If what was posted on the Daily Kos, FTS, and Factcheck is valid, which is not, then all of the information on it is public record. Period. So, there is NO reason at all to refuse to show a paper Certification of Live Birth which is alleged to have been used to make this scan image.

3. There is no reason not to have made a scan of the reverse side of Obama's COLB, if it were real, because the reverse side is where the validation stamps appear.

4. By your own logic, you should believe whatever Dr. Neal Krawetz says since you have Dr. Neal Krawetz's name (who has gone to extraordinary lengths to make it known), and you have heard him say, or have seen something posted online to the effect he has a PhD in Computer Science. Therefore, you believe Neal Krawetz ONLY BECAUSE he is using a name that can be found elsewhere -- but one for which you have no proof that it is his current legal name. He could have easily changed it before he enrolled in college. Plus, you are putting unsubstantiated stock in what that degree encompasses. Did you see his transcripts? Nope. Do you know what is his area of exertise or specialization? HINT: it is not image graphics.

5. So, you are "inclined" to believe what Kraweat has to say because you are able to see his name, which may or may not be his legal name, and see his degree title, for which you have no idea what classes he has taken, how well he has done in them, what was the subject of his dissertation, if he was required to do one, and if anything that he has done has any bearing, whatsoever, on the skill sets required to do what I have done.

Bottom line: would you bet the ranch on Kraweta being right and me being wrong on one, single topic?

24 posted on 12/12/2008 4:16:51 PM PST by Polarik (quote)
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