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Germany's First Professor of Islamic Theology - Muslim Convert: "Prophet" Mohammed Never Existed....
weaselzippers.net ^ | November 15, 2008 | Zip

Posted on 11/15/2008 5:26:58 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

What's the over/under on this guy's life span?.....

MÜNSTER, Germany --Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.

So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.

Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn't portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.

"We had no idea he would have ideas like this," says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Münster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."

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1 posted on 11/15/2008 5:26:58 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This guy’s gonna need to go underground and quick.Fatwas calling for his murder will be issued by tomorrow.


2 posted on 11/15/2008 5:29:21 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wow...there’s a special kind of schadenfreude at work here....


3 posted on 11/15/2008 5:30:24 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed. "

Bu!!$h!t .. who do you think gave us Kwanzaa?

4 posted on 11/15/2008 5:30:37 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How long does this guy have to live?


5 posted on 11/15/2008 5:30:48 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: Farmer Dean

I thought we had the book on this guy, but he wasn’t all he’s been trumped up to be?


6 posted on 11/15/2008 5:32:57 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Free ThinkerNY
... "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."

Huh? Speak sensibly, Professor!

7 posted on 11/15/2008 5:33:06 PM PST by Ken522
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8 posted on 11/15/2008 5:34:57 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I bet the fatwa generator is heating up...

http://www.google.com/search?&rls=en&q=Kalisch+%2B+fatwa&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


9 posted on 11/15/2008 5:38:05 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The best candidate I know of for non-existence would be Charlemagne.


11 posted on 11/15/2008 5:54:57 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope “Proffesor” Kalisch isn’t what German academia is coming to. Maintaining that Mohammad was a false prophet is reasonable, but maintaining he never existed is just absurd.


12 posted on 11/15/2008 5:56:44 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I personally believe Mohammed existed. I'm pretty sure he wasn't God's gift to mankind.

One thing we can't have is Moslems doing any research. That might require drawing some adult conclusions.

13 posted on 11/15/2008 6:03:35 PM PST by stevem
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well the man certainly has no anti-islam bias..so, people might want to listen to what he says...

I was surprised to hear that the earliest writings on Mohammad were a century after he died. The earliest copies of the New Testament were 25 years after the Crucifixion of Christ.

14 posted on 11/15/2008 6:06:21 PM PST by tuckrdout (~ 'Daily example is the most subtle of poisons.' ~)
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To: knarf
The FBI.... really no sarcasm... it was the FBI

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548418/posts

15 posted on 11/15/2008 6:07:53 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: wendy1946
The best candidate I know of for non-existence would be Charlemagne.

Why so?

16 posted on 11/15/2008 6:12:21 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Reminds me of a passage from the Bible in 1 Samuel, verses 2, 3 and 4 (NASB)-

verse 2- Then the Philistines took the ark of God and brought it to the house of Dagon and set it by Dagon.

verse 3- When the Ashdodites arose early the next morning, behold, Dagon had fallen on his face to the ground before the ark of Lord. So they took Dagon and set him in his place again.

verse 4- But when they arose early the next morning, behold, Dagon had fallen on his face to the ground before the ark of the Lord. And the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands were cut off on the threshold; only the trunk of Dagon was left to him.

17 posted on 11/15/2008 6:16:42 PM PST by Moorings
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Apparently there really isn’t any physical evidence on the planet for either Charlemagne or any of the Carolingians to have ever existed.


18 posted on 11/15/2008 6:29:17 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Zum Wohle sagte der Fuchs zum Dohle. Noch eine Schweinehaxe bitte mit einem (or ist it einer? You guys make it so difficult on yourselves.) Helles. Das hat geschmeckt.

(My German friends better correct me before I make a fool of myself) Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt.


19 posted on 11/15/2008 6:42:57 PM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ever since those Christians beheaded those Jesus Seminar professors, theologians just arent safe today. /sarcasm


20 posted on 11/15/2008 7:11:37 PM PST by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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