Posted on 10/22/2008 2:11:53 PM PDT by pissant
Barack Obama claims “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation” in the Berg case and has filed a request for dismissal and a protective order. Berg’s filing asks for copies of his birth certificate, citizenship records, passport and travel records, and other documentation proving citizenship in the U.S. as well as other countries.
First, let’s establish that I am no lawyer so don’t depend on my interpretation of the Berg vs. Obama lawsuit as being accurate. I am depending on the interpretations of others who know much more than I, and assuming they have it right. With that out of the way, let’s proceed.
Philip Berg (a Democrat and former deputy attorney general of the state of Pennsylvania) filed his initial lawsuit against Barack Obama August 21, 2008 in Philadelphia Federal Court, claiming Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be President based on citizenship. The first counter filing was from Obama only, but the DNC has since joined in.
Barack Obama and the DNC failed to respond to Berg’s filing of Sep. 15 within the required 30 days, which means they ADMITTED to all the charges in the filing by default. When they did not respond in any manner to any of the requests for information or documention the judge extended their deadline, and they then filed a motion for DISMISSAL and for a PROTECTIVE ORDER.
Their reasoning for requesting a protective order is that revealing the information (birth certificate, passports, citizenship in other countries) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” (emphasis added) Then they claim Berg has no standing to ask for it.
* Is it just me, or does this sound like an admission of guilt? If his birth certificate and citizenship records, including passports and travel documentation, are going to cause “particularly serious embarrassment,” can we assume they do not prove he is a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution for eligibility for the presidency? How else could they be embarrassing? * Obama has already posted a copy of his birth certificate online (deemed by some experts to be a poor forgery), so wouldn’t this have nullified any expectation for privacy?
From the list of 83 charges filed and not rebutted, here are some they admitted to (remember, they technically “admitted” them because they didn’t refute them):
1. Barack Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen 2. Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya 3. Barack Obama traveled to Pakistan with friends in 1981 on an Indonesian passport 4. Barack Obama has asked others to have his birth certificate in Hawaii altered 5. The DNC has knowledge of this and is complicit in hiding it
WHERE IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA? With speculation that he was born in Kenya, is still a citizen of Indonesia, traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport, and never re-claimed his American citizenship, does anyone doubt if this were the Republican candidate they would be spending at least as much time investigating it as they did Joe the Plumber’s background? It would be all over the news 24 hours a day! But Obama? They don’t investigate, they don’t report. Where is their journalistic integrity?
Berg now has filed:
A) A motion requesting an immediate order deeming his request for admissions served upon Barack Obama and the DNC on September 15 admitted by default, and
B) A motion requesting an expedited ruling and/or hearing on Berg’s motion deeming the request for admissions served upon Obama and the DNC admitted.
If Judge Surrick grants these motions, Barack Obama is, at least temporarily, ineligible to run for the office of President of the United States OR to be a citizen of the United States.
There are some rumblings from the courthouse that a ruling, one way or the other, may be forthcoming by the end of this week.
Berg’s website You can read the full list of Requests for Admissions Obama and the DNC failed/refused to respond to, thus admitted to, at this site. In fact, you can read the history of the whole case here, including .pdf documents of all the filings.
TexasDarlin A Democrat-for-Clinton website following and investigating this case, this post interprets the information on Berg’s website to help understand what it means.
Americas Right Written by a law student who works in the courthouse where the case is filed; he breaks news fast and accurately.
This is outrageous:
The Federal Election Commission has taken the legal position in the Berg case that Berg, as a voter, does not have STANDING to challenge the constitutional qualifications of a presidential candidate.
Further, the FEC is taking the position that the FEC itself does not have an oversight role as to the constitutional qualifications of a presidential candidate.
See the FEC’s filing here:
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/24/
If a voter may not legally challenge Obama’s qualifications under the Constitution, and the FEC may not legally challenge Obama’s qualifications under the Constitution, then WHO has the legal right to do so?
You have it the nail on the head!
Funny!
Maybe his FIRST name is Mohammed.
Maybe his birth name is really Pookie.
If the parents were not married (dad had wife in Kenya) and he was:
1. Born in Hawaii as a bastard - is he a U.S. citizen.
2. Born in Kenya - I guess he is not a citizen.
Even if he was he would have lost it in Indonesia but someone said a child cannot lose their citizen or even renounce it as a child?
He needs to produce and we need to get suits in all 50 states to get him to produce. Berg has no standing? BS!
Berg is a citizen and the President is employed by the U.S. people. Berg or any U.S. citizen has standing and a right to demand documents to insure that the Constitution is overturned by some petty thug from Kenya.
He looks more like Soetoro and Frank Marshall Davis than Obama Snr.
Did someone send this to Drudge in his anonymous news tip link? Has this been vetted?
Well then, you did not do it right. You must not really be married.
No one, if you are the messiah apparently.
I want to know where the HELL are the republican congresscritters?
Deamnd proof, you limp wristed pansies!
“I can’t find the words or phrases to describe how I feel that he is backed so many, even at the highest levels of government.”
You and me both.
Passport and travel plans - screw them. Whatever happened to the right to privacy. If we don't like what a candidate does or doesn't release, we can vote accordingly.
And meanwhile, where are Palin's medical records? Should she be forced to release them? I say NO!
Not only that...., he may be in far deeper doo-doo, if this holds water:
Something is brewing in the background while Nobama Hussein (“Mohammed”?) Barrack goes to granny tomorroe for a “new” or “another” BC
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ON THE MICHELLE OBAMA TAPES
Posted by africanpress on October 23, 2008
“Parties involved - LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG (USA) and African Press International - API (Norway) have agreed on the wording of the notice below now being made public”
To whom it may concern
CONFIRMATION OF ATTORNEY/CLIENT RELATIONSHIP This is to inform members of the public that there is Attorney/Client relationship between:
LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12, Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531 Office: (610) 825-3134 Fax: (610) 662-3005 Att: Phil J. Berg or Lisa Liberi email: philjberg@gmail.com email: lisaliberi@gmail.com
And
AFRICAN PRESS INTERNATIONAL - API, Oslo – Norway
Subject matter: The Michelle Obama tapes.
In case of legal questions pertaining to the above subject, members of the public are asked to contact the Law Offices directly.
Any other matters of no legal character may be directed to API’s Chief Editor Korir by email: africanpress@getmail.no or +4793299739
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From www.americasright.com
On African Press International, I'm honestly just tired of it. I do not believe that the tape exists and, if you've read over the past few days, I was disappointed in myself for not trusting my gut feeling in the first place. Still, if my gut is wrong, I'll be more than happy to own up to it. Berg, it seems, is far more certain.
"We are working with computer people and Chief Editor Korir over at African Press International as we speak so the audio file can be transfered over to us for distribution," Berg said. "They say the information on there is far more extensive than just the things they reported, but before I do anything with it I want to review it in full."
As I've mentioned time and time again, it reminds me of the purported pictures of Bill Clinton allegedly burning an American flag in Moscow which never surfaced. It reminds me of the so-called "whitey" videotape of Michelle Obama which has never surfaced. It just doesn't smell right, I don't like that I'm even covering it, but I feel as though it's relevant to the discussion.
Look yes its written in stone (the US Consitution) as to what the requirement is. However there is no requirement to actually produce documentation that one is indeed elgible for the Presidency.
Again the honor system worked up until this election cycle....
There must be some sort of law saying that if you knowingly represent yourself as something and then take money (500m) for it, but are not that something it is illegal for you along with your co-conspirators.
“WHERE IS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA?”
I don’t understand it. Drudge ran the following headlines today:
“Woman Jailed Over $7.45 WAFFLE HOUSE Bill...”
“Florida man jailed for deodorant robbery... “
Yet, he doesn’t have enough space on his page to say there are 4 suits against Barry?
This makes no sense to me.
Of course he’s an evil clown. He looks like the Joker.
I don’t think that was the issue—Bill Clinton was probably illegitimate too. Fathers of illegitimate children always conveniently “die”.
Even if his mom and Obama claimed to be married, as you correctly point out, it is a legal impossibility since polygamy is not legal in the US.
I don’t think being illegitimate would be sufficiently “embarrassed”. I don’t support him because he’s an incompetent Marxist boob with shady puppet masters but I wouldn’t hold his illegitimacy against him.
At this point, my attitude is “Screw what’s legal! I want to know what’s true!” Legal standing in a court be damned, 0bama needs to be held accountable for showing America that he’s eligible to be their/our leader.
I’d absolutely love it if an ICE agent arrested him and tried to deport him.
Jack, where have you been?
This has been a hot topic here for weeks...
Nice to have you back.
To answer your question...when the controversy first started a fake “certificate of live birth” was posted on the Daily Koz, and then challenged by bloggers all over the internet, and another similar phoney document was posted on an Obama website and it has been hammered by bloggers as well. The Obama campaign got their friends at factcheck.org to say that this second posted document was examined and found authentic. The Obama campaign and the media then ignored the issue completely.
That is why Berg had to file his lawsuit. The idea was to simply say to Obama “show us the birth certificate and we will go away.”
The “certificate of live birth” is not a birth certificate, and the certificate offered was a forgery anyway.
Speculation on why Obama refuses to produce this simple document center on a few ideas....maybe he was not born in the US, but Kenya...maybe his father was not who he says he was...maybe the document might have some other embarassing information.
Berg’s lawsuit also proposes that if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, there might be other issues that make him ineligible under the constitution....he moved to Indonesia as a child and surrendered his US citizenship and never re-established it...or perhaps his mother did not satisfy a more obscure requirement that she be “of age” and then having left with him to Indonesia he again lost or never really had US citizenship.
I may have the details a little off, but you can get the general idea.
....WTF! was he born a hermaphrodite? ...because the only other thing I can think of that is"serious embarrassment "is he was not born here
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