Posted on 09/23/2008 7:35:40 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Let's see. Barack Obama's pastor, before he was thrown under the bus, was Jeremiah Wright who regular railed against America. A favorite priest of the Left is Father Pfleger, the highly politicized NUtcase who has no problems preaching politics from the pulpit. So now some DUmmie is OUTRAGED when he thinks his church is injecting politics into its sermons as you can see in this THREAD titled, "I dropped this note into the collection basket at my Mom's church today." So what does this title tell us? It tells us that it was his MOM's church which means this DUmmie was just tagging along looking for a confrontation. Since he mentioned same-sex marriage and planned parenthood in the note, this most likely means he interpreted some biblical reading about Sodom and Gomorrah or sanctity of life to be "political." We don't really know since this DUmmie never tells us what specifically was preached that so offended him. However, we are sure this is a typical chip-on-the-shoulder DUmmie going out of his way to look for a confrontation. So let us now watch the DUmmies hypocritically moan about politics in the pulpit in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, figuring it was the first time in his life that this DUmmie dropped anything into a church collection basket, is in the [brackets]:
I dropped this note into the collection basket at my Mom's church today
[First time you dropped anything into a church collection basket.]
"You do not have the right to make political statements during the Mass. A major tenet of the United States Constitution is separation of church and state, and you have crossed that clearly defined boundary of separation. Your tax-exempt status is at risk. The church does not have the right to tell parishoners how to vote, or even what criteria to use when voting. This is not the first time this has happened at (-name of church-) If this continues, you will be facing a lawsuit challenging your tax-exempt status. For now, we have decided to donate all the money we would have donated to (-name of church-) in the next 2 months to the No on 8 campaign, to reflect our support of same-sex marriage. After that, we will permanently donate all money that we would have donated to the Mission to Planned Parenthood instead. (-name of church-) will not get any of our money, ever again.
[Think this DUmmie would drop such a note into the collection basket of Rev. Wright's church? BTW, note that this DUmmie was short on the SPECIFICS of what was actually preached. Maybe the Sodom and Gommorah bit offended him.]
I liked it and I'm not even Catholic! Actually, I'm a Luciferian Satanist but there was somethinbg about the beauty of the language that always appealed.
[First Luciferian Satanist Coven or Second Luciferian Satanist Coven?]
Turn them into the IRS
[Chanted a member of the Obama Turbos.]
A note in the collection basket is a great idea. I hope others will follow suit at churches where this happens.
[Why don't you just drop Obama campaign material into church collection baskets so as to alienate the entire flock?]
AND then contact the IRS to complain about politicking in church and asking for an investigation. If enough people from a given church did this, the IRS might actually investigate and pull that tax-exempt status--especially if we win the presidency and larger majorities in both houses of Congress.
[Of course, leftwing churches such as the one Obama used to attend will get an exemption from this rule.]
Did they actually say to vote for mccain?
[A DUmmie asked the DUmmie author of this thread.]
The one old priest that was making political comments last February right before the presidential primary here in California was back again. I dropped a similar note in the basket last February. Then a few weeks ago he was there again. He prefaced his comments with "Now, I may get in trouble for this, but..." and there were a few scattered giggles. Then he started talking about the recent Saddleback thing where that pastor interviewed McCain and Obama separately. So maybe that "I may get in trouble" comment was a result of someone telling all the priests to not make political remarks, maybe not. I don't know and I have no way of knowing.
[Note how the question was NOT answered which really means: No, the priest did NOT say to vote for McCain.]
Oh brother, no wonder I have experienced several "crises of faith" ... I love Catholicism, but not what the existing patriarchal system has done to this beautiful faith.
[Sorry. Hippie communes of the '60s were never part of that faith.]
What, exactly, was said?
[You won't get a direct answer to that question from the note-dropping DUmmie.]
I'm just taking my Mom because she's 89 and can't make it there on my own.
[So the truth comes out from the note-dropping DUmmie. He was only at that church because he had to take his mother there. Once there, he had to let his inner loon out.]
I'm haven't been a Catholic since college, but sometimes take my elderly mother when my father is too sick to attend. I just tune it all out.
[That's what the note-dropping DUmmie did. He just tuned it all out except for a small portion that he could fantasize was political. In fact, no matter what was said in the pulpit would be interpreted as political by this DUmmie.]
But true, most Catholics who support choice - even if they themselves believe abortion is terrible and not just a "simple" choice - and believe that gays have a right to love who they love without being called horrible names or being targeted for harassment and murder.... most of the Catholics who believe these things are recovering Catholics in search of a place to belong.
[Try the Luciferian Satanist Coven.]
Don't forget to sue all the churches that teach the social gospel or liberation theology or invite Dems to speak etc
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Thanks for the offer, but I don't believe in any religion. In fact I belive that God hates religion. I only take my 89-year-old Mom to church because she can't get there otherwise.
[So you weren't going to drop money in the first place. Instead you dropped a political note into the collection basket of a church you don't believe in.]
Put a McCain sign on the front lawn of the church, take a photo, and send it to the media and the IRS. That "evidence" added to enough complaints could have an effect. Probably not in time for this election, but for the future.
[Great idea. Falsely frame the church by planting fake evidence.]
For you to threaten the church's income, and rudely at that, reflects a great deal of intolerance on your part. No sensible lawyer is going to take up a case that's suing a church for attempting to politically persuade its congregation. Most people have the sense to leave if they don't like something. Churches rely on donations for sustainability, by threatening to take away their tax exemption its almost as if you're snubbing this particular church for freedom of speech, which is another major tenet of the United States Constitution.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
PING!
The chef is here. Good eats for everyone.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Long time but...TT
Top 5!?
Top 10 for a change!
Top Ten!!!
Good grief! Can’t these people let politics go, even for a short couple of hours at church???
Now to read.
Top ten. Back to read
EEEEEK!!!!
This tells me the message was about marriage. If based on the Bible and not a political position it's not in violation of anything. Church teachings are based on the Bible and they have the right to teach its tenets.
Naturally, this "kid" was just getting his jollies so he could run home and post this. I'll be the couldn't wait to be the big hero on the DU block.
No money to the church, more pizza(paid for by Mommy DUmmie)
“I’m just taking my Mom because she’s 89 and can’t make it there on my own.”
I am calling this story BS. So he just happened to have a note pad and a pen handy and had enough time to write a lengthy note to drop into the offering plate.
Hmmmm, me thinks this is a steaming load of BS.
Hmmmmm....after reading the DUMmie’s note that he slipped into the collection plate, I’m wondering if his mother’s pastor was one of these pastor’s, recruited to preach sermons defying IRS regulations this past Sunday:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-05-09-pastors-irs_N.htm
Of course, if a Democrat candidate for office is speaking from the pulpit, it’s OK. So-called “separation of church and State” does not apply.
“I’ll be the couldn’t wait to be the big hero on the DU block.”
Yep. All that’s missing is how, in the “glad-handing-line” on the way out, he eriuditely argued and convinced the priest to vote Democrat.
What an idiot.
We’ll see. Yesterday, I was reading there, and came across one thread. This DUer was trying to raise money for his walk against ovarian cancer.
I lost a very good friend to that disease, so I clicked and gave him some money.
Now if he reads this and finds out it was a freeper, we’ll see what he does. I’m hoping he’ll say “despite our political differences, I’m glad we can agree on fighting this deadly silent killer.”
He may say “I don’t want your blood money, you subhuman idiot!” Could go either way. We’ll see. I really hope it’s the first one. I like to think we all see each other as humans here.
Sorry, this post was a bit tangential...
Eww, that’s creepy, isn’t it? Most DUmmies won’t acknowledge there is a God. This DUmmie acknowledges it and chooses to worship pure evil instead.
Either the dummie spent a long time writing and rewriting this screed before taking his 89 year old mother to church (not very likely), quickly scribbled a nasty note on a card and dropped it in the plate (pretty likely) or he daydreamed of writing a note while sitting through the service and then came back to DU to boast of his great deed in the hope of getting others to join him in his windmill tilting (most likely).
Presto change-o! You are now the IRS.
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