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Within A Relativistic Context, What Is 'Politically Correct' Speech?
5/9/2008 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 05/10/2008 10:49:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Relativists claim that what is truth for one person may not be truth for another person, or what may be true for one may not be true for another.

If truth is relative to one's point-of-view, who can say what is or isn't politically correct speech? Within American society who could say what is or isn't politically correct to say, if truth (and the truth of the matter even concerning political correctness) was relative to one's point-of-view?

A relativist could not say that what was true for them (in terms of what is or isn't politically correct to say) would necessarily be true for another (or anyone for that matter) if truth was relative to one's point-of view.

Within a relativistic context, what may be politically correct speech for one person, group, or segment of society, may not be politically correct speech for another person, group, segment of society, or even society at large.

In adherence to relativistic thought, relativists must not only examine others' beliefs or beliefs systems through the prism of relativism, but they are required to examine their own beliefs or belief systems through the prism of relativism. If the relativist relativizes others' beliefs or belief systems they then must also relativize their own beliefs and belief systems.

In summation, what would constitute politically correct speech for liberals may not be politically correct speech for conservatives. In the end, who can know what is or isn't politically correct speech?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Government; History; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: democratparty; democrats; liberalism; liberals; philosophy; politics; relativism

1 posted on 05/10/2008 10:49:53 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All

Indeed, liberals cannot say what is or isn’t politically correct speech. Who can know what is or isn’t politically correct speech?


2 posted on 05/10/2008 10:52:09 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas” - Stalin


3 posted on 05/10/2008 10:57:33 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Simply put - Political Correctness is nothing more than one group telling "everyone" what is acceptable, what is "Truth", and any variation from their concepts is immoral, wrong and just plane(?)-(ha) stewped.
4 posted on 05/10/2008 10:58:24 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s whatever liberal dogma the left is protecting on any given day.


5 posted on 05/10/2008 11:00:08 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Relativism means subjective judgment. True relativists would not acknowledge political correctness except in themselves.


6 posted on 05/10/2008 11:01:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
That's why it's called politically correct. The term, originally coined by university leftists to talk about something being correct through a subjective political filter. So of course whether or not something is politically correct or politically incorrect will depend on the political filter applied.
7 posted on 05/10/2008 11:01:16 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: endthematrix
“We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas” - Stalin

Great quote! Guns were less of a threat to Stalin than words simply because you could walk down the street with ideas in your head and never be detected whereas one with a gun would be quickly discovered.
8 posted on 05/10/2008 11:02:50 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Within a relativistic context though, how can liberals know (with any degree of certainty) that any political filter should be applied, or that they have applied the correct political filter?

Again, they would have to relativize even their own subjective political filter.


9 posted on 05/10/2008 11:06:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All
Regarding politically correct speech, what's going on is that minority factions who don't like the honest interpretation of the Constitution are ultimately forced to try to change word meanings.

Unfortunately, the twisting of meanings of constitutional clauses is easier than you might think. This is because ignorance of the Constitution and its history is epidemic. Widespread constitutional ignorance is evidenced by the following links.

http://tinyurl.com/npt6t
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
One consequence of widespread constitutional ignorance is that the people are impotent to stop minority sympathizing, Constitution-ignoring justices from walking all over their freedoms.
10 posted on 05/10/2008 11:16:30 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It's Groupthink or as described by Orwell:

“This, thought Winston, was the most frightening aspect of the party regime-that it could obliterate memory, turn lies into Truth and alter the Past. The Party slogan was “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” This was where “doublethink” came into play, minds were trained to hold contradictory positions simultaneously and unquestioningly- for example you had to believe at one and the same time that Democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy. Winston could remember a time when the Party did not rule, when Big Brother had not become all-powerful; but according to the Party they had always existed and this lie was repeated ad infinitum until it “became” the truth. This, Winston thought was a far more terrible weapon in the hands of the Party than torture or execution.” 1984 P1 Ch3


“’Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.” 1984 P1, Ch5

11 posted on 05/10/2008 11:19:12 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It's equivalent to a big pile of horsey **t.
12 posted on 05/10/2008 12:59:57 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (Liberalism=stupidity=Obama=false 'hope'=true defeat)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Classically or Generally?

I vote for E=mc2.

Cheers!

13 posted on 05/11/2008 8:47:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; Laissez-faire capitalist
Feh, lack of caffeine.

I obviously meant "Specially or Generally".

Cheers!

14 posted on 05/12/2008 5:41:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Wrong relativism. We aren’t discussing that.

Cheers!


15 posted on 05/12/2008 7:04:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

With all relativists/post modernists, YOUR viewpoint can be “relativised” out of meaning, but THEIR viewpoint is “CORRECT”.


16 posted on 05/12/2008 7:07:48 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Really quite simple. Whatever you say can be politically incorrect if it suits the purpose of the other party. Another person can say the same thing, and it's not politically incorrect. The point of liberalism is emotion.

The entire point of political correctness is to avoid actual debate on facts. It is a tactic, not a philosophy. Quick example: a liberal friend and I were discussing inner city problems. I stated that the breakup of the family and high number of illegitimate children were the primary problems, and that fleeing industry, crime, drugs, etc., all flowed from this point. He immediately began a diatribe about how the children weren't illegitimate, they had as much value as any other children, etc., etc. The point was to avoid the actual debate of issues. This is the primary point in the terms "undocumented worker" as opposed to "illegal alien," and on and on.

The purpose is to keep you on eggshells, fearing that one term might offend. The point of political correctness is to keep you on the defensive, avoiding factual debate, and getting submission prior to beginning discussions.

17 posted on 05/12/2008 7:14:11 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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