Posted on 07/04/2006 4:53:09 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

It's the Fourth of July and the DUmmies are "patriotically" urging each other to "Put Away the Flags." They are so disgusted with the USA that they frown upon such displays of patriotism. The DUmmies are supported in this belief by left wing whacko, Howard Zinn, as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Put Away the Flags - Howard Zinn." Almost half the replies have been deleted so one can only imagine what extreme anti-American rants were worthy of not even being allowed in DUmmieland. So let us now watch the DUmmies tell each other to put away their flags in Bolshevik Red (but not White and Blue) while the commentary of your humble correspondent, lighting another firecracker beneath the DUmmie pretenses as usual, is in the [brackets]:
Put Away the Flags - Howard Zinn
[Oh, if he said so...we must, we MUST!]
Put Away the Flags
by Howard Zinn
On this July 4, we would do well to renounce nationalism and all its symbols: its flags, its pledges of allegiance, its anthems, its insistence in song that God must single out America to be blessed.
[Thanx Howie for expressing the TRUE feelings of the Left.]
Is not nationalism -- that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary so fierce it engenders mass murder -- one of the great evils of our time, along with racism, along with religious hatred?
[Flying the flag leads to mass murder according to the bizarre Zinnian logic.]
These ways of thinking -- cultivated, nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on -- have been useful to those in power, and deadly for those out of power.
[Flag flying as indoctrination. Um, can we question your patriotism NOW?]
National spirit can be benign in a country that is small and lacking both in military power and a hunger for expansion (Switzerland, Norway, Costa Rica and many more). But in a nation like ours -- huge, possessing thousands of weapons of mass destruction -- what might have been harmless pride becomes an arrogant nationalism dangerous to others and to ourselves.
[So it is okay for small countries to fly their flags but really horrible for the USA to do it. Meanwhile Zinn slams the USA with not a MENTION of the Islamo-fascists who are truly dangerous. And now on to the FAVORABLE DUmmie reaction to this article...]
I agree w/Howard. The thought of celebrating tomorrow makes me ill.
[Can we question your patriotism now?]
Zinn speaks for me. sadly, this is how I feel this year.
[This is how you feel EVERY year.]
I agree wholeheartedly with Howard! I haven't flown the flag since the psycho illegally invaded Iraq. I fly a PEACE flag ONLY. It stays up until we get the hell out of there.
[I have seen a lot of Pali flags at the "peace" demonstrations to the exclusion of American flags.]
Arrogant nationalism. That's the problem.......it's the sense of entitlement that is destructive.
[Like the sense of entitlement of claiming election victories even when you LOSE?]
You need to read some actual history of the American Revolution. Many of the founding fathers were not Christians. And Americans by and large do NOT trust Bush; alcoholics can never be trusted.
[YOU need to read some actual history of the American revolution. Such as how the revolution started as a protest AGAINST higher taxes.]
NOOOO! That is the worst possible things those of the left could do because it confirms the right's propaganda that the flag is theirs. It's the exact opposite thing those on the left should be doing. Wave the flag, Democrats, wave it proud!
[A pragmatic DUmmie who wants to fool people into thinking the leftists are really patriotic so he supports flying the flag...but only as a cynical PR ploy.]
I have no pride in my country today. I will not celebrate tomorrow in a big way.
[And don't forget to not enjoy the fireworks.]
When have hippie a$$holes (and leftists) NOT been freakin' hypocrites?
There are a lot of links about the origins of the "peace symbol" on the net, and one can choose to believe whatever they want about the sign. The bottom line for me is that liberals, leftists and peace weenies rarely actually stand for what they purport to stand for. They are all for their own agendas and anti-American. It does not surprise me to find that while they claim to stand for peace, they really stand for the death of America and the sign they wave stands for nothing America stands for.
I apoligise for the knee-jerk reaction. I run into a lot of anti-pagan bias on FR, and I tend to bristle a bit.
I use the Norse runes a lot, and so tend to focus on the meanings I'm familiar with. I had run across several sources linking the peace symbol with the rune Algiz.
Now, if it's actually the Tyr rune, or the "broken cross" (with which I am not familiar) that's a whole different ball game. Although I feel if it were the Tyr rune ("up" arrow) the arms would meet at one end of the vertical line and slope up, the opposite of the way they do.
I think I better do some research into Teutonic mysticism. I have always avoided that previously, as that nonsense is what led eventually to the Thule Society, who supposedly backed Hitler's early political career.
http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html
That particular cesspool I would rather avoid, but I guess I better hold my nose and wade into it.
I would suggest that the sellers of those peace symbols you linked to are catering to left-wing "hippie-dippy" new agers, who love their peace symbols and rainbow flags. These are the same folks that think that paganism was and is all sweetness and light. (Believe me, I speak from experience, and it ain't so.) Most of these folks don't believe in the existence of evil- which belief, mixed with dabbling in the occult, is worse than suicidal.
Ah, no. Dining on crow at present- see my #122.
Been there. The good ones always apologize ;)
As do I, apologize that is, my first post was not intended to be a "Right-wing" religious rant. Whereas all conservatives are not Christians, remember that all Christians are not zealots.
I myself was turned on tho the peace sign being paganistic recently and have done some surfing on the subject, and as I said, many of the links on the net are contradictory so anyone can find whatever meaning suits their purpose. Personally I think while the sign may have been borne from any number of mystic symbols, it stands for nothing American as applied today.
I also agree that many of the "new-age" mysticysim sites are indeed catering(pandering) to the hippie left and aren't truly interested in any type of real mysticism or naturalism. I've always been interested in the occult and in the mystic realms of thought although not a student of it as you appear to be, so again no insult was intended.
I am a Christian by birth and belief, but I have no idea if what I believe is true, it's a matter of faith I suppose. I could not say that what someone else believes is right or wrong, just different (as long as that belief doesn't include lopping people's heads off) and the belief in something greater is what is really important.
Sorry for the lengthy post, nice chatting with you as it were.
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