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How do you survive a male mid-life crisis? (Vanity)

Posted on 01/08/2006 4:15:59 AM PST by ScubieNuc

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To: SE Mom
" Trust me on this- as long as you're focused on what YOU want- you're undesirable. She isn't going to be changing anytime soon into what YOU want. Love her anyway."

Good advice. Thanks.
41 posted on 01/08/2006 6:50:38 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc; Tijeras_Slim

Call Dr. Laura.

That b*tch knows e v e r y t h i n g .

< /sarc >


42 posted on 01/08/2006 6:50:51 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ScubieNuc
However, I am deeply involved in my church, and I know that it would not be a secret for very long.

Ok now there is the problem. You may not mean it that way but you are saying that your pride in having a perfect facade is more important then your marriage.

Your wife and kids are less important then other people opinion. And you can bet that they know it.

Plus I live in a small community.

Then drive somewhere else.

43 posted on 01/08/2006 6:56:55 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud member of the Free Republic Humility Club. We are twice as humble as you are.)
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To: ScubieNuc

Don't buy flowers every week.
That will become as BORING and habitual as buying them for Valentine's Day!

Roses after a night of great sex is a good start.
Again, don't buy flowers EVERY time. You've got to get AWAY from ROUTINE.

Someone else suggested a back rub. Great idea. Rub her back and say something like (even if it is NOT true), "Your skin is a little dry. Let me rub some lotion on you." DON'T have the lotion waiting by the bed, because then it will be OBVIOUS you had that planned. Do it expecting nothing in return. Foot rubs are always good too, especially when there is some good conversation too.

Do you watch "Everybody Loves Raymond?" Great show. Anyway, there have been quite a few episodes similar to your situation. Side-splitting hilarity. Anyway, watch the show and MAKE SURE you NEVER behave like him! He is a total idiot of a husband!


44 posted on 01/08/2006 6:57:37 AM PST by Muzzle_em ("Get busy LIVING or get busy dying")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
This stood out to me..."In essence you are going to have to court her."

For the rest of my life I have to court her as though we were still dating? Something to think about.
45 posted on 01/08/2006 6:57:46 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
Relationships are work.

Not just when you feel like it but when you don't.

46 posted on 01/08/2006 6:59:30 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud member of the Free Republic Humility Club. We are twice as humble as you are.)
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To: ScubieNuc

OK,
here are some questions for you...

What is your wife's favorite color?
How does she like her coffee in the morning?
What is the name of her best friend?
What is her greatest dream or desire?
Where does buy her clothes?
What is the name of her favorite movie?
What is her favorite kind of date/outing?
What is her favorite gift from you?
What would she want to change about herself if she could?
What would she want to change about you?

Granted, some are no brainers, but the more you go ?? to, the more you need counseling.


47 posted on 01/08/2006 6:59:45 AM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Good point.


48 posted on 01/08/2006 6:59:55 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
I don't know what to tell you except that I can put you in touch with some one who has been through it.

He left his beautiful wife of 30 years for a slut half his age. The slut told him within a few months of moving in with her that he was really too old and she wanted him out. The too old, was just a kind way of saying the sex wasn't as good as she was used to.

He found he really didn't like living alone and the now ex-wife didn't want him back so he married a needy dingbat woman so he didn't have to be alone anymore.

He had worked for his first wife's family so his job was gone and now he cooks and cleans the house while the 2nd wife works.

His kids have lost respect for him and don't want to have much to do with him because he destroyed their family life. I don't think his searching has brought him much happiness but that just my opinion, he might tell you to go for it.
49 posted on 01/08/2006 7:01:38 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Muzzle_em

I have watched some of "Everybody Loves Raymond." I agree, Raymond is a douffass!

But, then again, maybe I have been too in my own way.


50 posted on 01/08/2006 7:02:29 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
I figured that substance over flash would win out, but I am finding out that is not always the case. While I’m trying to do more flash, it seems fake.

Totally understandable from the male perspective. However, if you are the one buying flowers, if you are the one with an over the top compliment, if you are the one making her feel desirable by being romantic, then it isn't being fake: it's being you.

By changing what you are doing, you can change.

Be all of those "fake" things you have felt odd about and you will soon find out that those things will grow to fit you. Sentimentalism and sappiness can really turn things around sometimes.

But definitely talk to her about it, she may be having the same kind of apprehension about your relationship that you are. Ask her what she thinks will work that she feels "fake" about. This will give you both the permission needed to try these things without feeling that the other will laugh or be dismissive. Her knowing that you are trying, and you knowing that she is trying will give you common ground to work from as you move through this frustrating period of your marriage.

51 posted on 01/08/2006 7:03:42 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ScubieNuc

You have freepmail.


52 posted on 01/08/2006 7:05:05 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: ScubieNuc
Obviously, there are many reasons for this growing impasse. Some of my problems are tied to the fact that I am not a romantic cuss. I hate Valentines day, I don’t get excited about mine or others birthdays, I don’t memorize anniversary details, I laugh during sappy movies, and I believe in practical gifts instead of sappy gifts.

Sounds like you don't like yourslef, so why should anybody else lioke you? Try being a person you would like - maybe your life will change as well.

53 posted on 01/08/2006 7:07:09 AM PST by Bernard (Only the US government has the time, money and hubris to calculate exactly what it doesn't know.)
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To: najida

You and others have hit the common cord that I haven't been attentive enough to her desires. But some of the answers to your questions are that I know what her likes and dislikes are and I have discovered that they are not the same as my likes and dislikes.

How do people with such disimilar interests, stay interested in each other?

Faking it is not a good long term solution. IMHO


54 posted on 01/08/2006 7:09:29 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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For the rest of my life I have to court her as though we were still dating? Something to think about.

What did you do when you were courting her? Was there someplace special you would go just to talk? Something you did that always made her smile? Make a special date, but don't tell her where you're going. She'll be intrigued by the mystery and very pleased that you remembered.

55 posted on 01/08/2006 7:09:48 AM PST by jellybean (George Allen 2008)
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56 posted on 01/08/2006 7:10:42 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: ScubieNuc

Watch the movie "Don Juan de Marco." Learn from it.


57 posted on 01/08/2006 7:15:13 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: ScubieNuc
"Do you honestly think I should tell her that I have been feeling like pursueing people that have shown interest in me?"

Yes. If she loves you, it might actually be a wake up call for her...as long as you don't tell her in a threatening manner.

58 posted on 01/08/2006 7:17:13 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: ScubieNuc

Nothing I listed is something she should have in common with you....it's just what makes her who she is. Do you really know her? Who she is? I mean, from what you've said, sounds like there are still a lot of secrets and unknowns.

If she has a need for demonstrative affection and affirmation, it still isn't about you. If you love someone and they love eggs for breakfast, yet you hate them...you still make them eggs. They still know you don't like them, but you get pleasure in making their eggs the way they want them.

Same goes for buying gifts, doing kind things, watching a sappy movie with her. It's a gift. And weirdly, you start to see why others enjoy such things.

Making someone else happy, showing them you care or seeing to their needs only makes you a better person. So it's a win-win for both.


59 posted on 01/08/2006 7:18:35 AM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: kdot; ScubieNuc
" If you truly want to rekindle and not just get some, focus on intimacy. The sex might come afterwards and stick around a bit. Be selfless and do some of the things you said you avoid. Do them with an honst heart."

Yeah. What she said.

60 posted on 01/08/2006 7:20:39 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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