Posted on 01/21/2005 6:01:58 PM PST by PJ-Comix
One great way to get your post count up to the magic 1000 in DUmmieland is to go into the DUmmie Lounge and post in one of the many non-political discussions. It is much easier to get your post count up this way than to join one of the political discussions since you are much less likely to “out” yourself. As an example, let us join in this DUmmie Star Trek THREAD titled, “Captain Pike was an idiot.” So let us Beam Down to DUmmieland to observe this Star Trek episode. Of course, any crew member joining us in this adventure named Ensign Smith is sure to DIE so you might as well start building his casket now. The Klingon DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, with his Phaser set on Stun, is in the [brackets]:
Captain Pike was an idiot. Here he is, on a planet with a woman who is HOT HOT HOT!, and is hot in many different forms, and yet he insists on getting back to the Enterprise. And yeah, Vina, in real life, is a horribly deformed yucko; but the Talosians can make her into anything! And what they make her into is HOT HOT HOT!
[God Bless those Talosians. I only wish they could have worked their magic on a few blind dates I had in the past. One in particular looked just like Nikita Khruschev in drag with a horrible garlic stench on her breath. The Talosians could have made her look like the young version of Sophia Loren but could they also have gotten rid of that horrible breath?]
Hubby and I have discussed this as well. Odd that I agree w/ you, yet he would not
[Maybe your hubby was thinking of calling up the Talosians to give YOU a major makeover.]
I totally agree.....Why go back to the Enterprise, when you can be with that hottie. Plus the fact that the Talosians can make her look hot forever. I would have said, " F**K the Enterprise, I'm staying here!"
[An interesting thing about those Talosians is that they seemed like big headed gay aliens. Perhaps the Talosians were the forerunners to the “Queer Eye” series. Nothing against the Talosians, of course, but I would prefer NOT to enter any Talosian bars. Not that there is anything wrong with being a Talosian.]
You're still right, though - if he'd stayed when he had the chance, he wouldn't have had that accident, and wouldn't have had to go back to the planet. he could have stayed with the hottie, never knowing what she really looked like, and lived a life of sexual bliss and harmony.
[That was a two-part episode, The Menagerie. One of my faves. However, I got a bigger kick out of the episode where Spock had to have sex once every seven years or he would go crazy.]
Of course he was an idiot. That's why they replaced him with the best ST captain ever: James T. Kirk!
[I don’t know about acting but I will admit that Kirk can sing Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds better.]
Yeah, I'm glad they knocked him off and put in Kirk. Kirk was way better! Though I wish Majel could have stayed in her role - she was a hottie, and should have gotten more time on screen in that awesome outfit. She wasn't so interesting as Nurse Chapel.
[At least Gene Roddenberry got to shtoop Nurse Chapel on a regular basis.]
Only when Vina regained consciousness... that's when their fun began! It's a great story all the same...And to think, it's Spock (and not Kirk) who had the idea of getting Pike back to Talos 4 so he could get jiggy with Vina...
[Although Spock only had sex once every seven years, he was also an extreme voyeur. Think Spock wasn’t watching the Pike/Vina action on his viewfinder? Which reminds me, with all that advanced Star Trek technology, how come no X-Rated DVDs on board?]
Jeffrey Hunter was a *terrible* actor...I watched "Menagerie" in recent years, and was struck by just how unutterably awful he was. Shatner looks like a genius in comparison.
[You don’t like Jeffrey Hunter as a Star Trek captain? Fine. But he was THE definitive Jesus and didn’t play the part with an accent like that heathen furriner, Max Von Sydow.]
Did you ever see Hunter play Jesus! I can't even remember the name of the movie -- I couldn't take it.
[Either King of Kings or The Greatest Story Ever Told. I get them confused. And I have accepted Jeffrey Hunter in my heart as the ONE TRUE HOLLYWOOD Jesus.]
Picard wasn't any better. See, only Kirk is da' man here!
[True. I just couldn’t accept Chrome Dome Picard as a Star Trek captain. However, he did portray a great Lenin on Materpiece Theater’s Fall Of Eagles.]
He didn't want to be a captive and a guinea pig. It was only after he was imprisoned in his own body that he realized what he'd given up. Fortunately for him, he got a rare second chance for happiness.
[Yeah. I remember Pike was stuck inside of a metal box contraption. He looked like he was halfway into a coma and the only way he could communicate was with a light on the contraption. One blink meant “Yes,” and Two blinks meant “No.” Or was it the reverse? Or was that all communicated via red and green lights? I hate to say this but Ross Perot’s 1992 running mate reminded me an awful lot of Pike in the metal box.]
One can equate this to their teisted view of government as well. "I don't care what it's really like, it looks pretty and I want it. Meanwhile "F" the rest of the "crew" (nation) I'm getting what I want!"
*Pike's not a name; it's a fish"
That's what the "holodeck" was for.
Wasn't it George -- what's his name -- ? He played Sulu, said that Shatner was kind of that crazy Uncle Bill everyone has in there family.
I liked Jeffrey Holder, he played that voo-doo guy punjab or whatever in the Bond flick "Live and Let Die"
I liked him as Guinevere's father in the movie "Excalibur"
My neighbor's 16 year old daughter calls the cute guys hotties.
I'm with you on this one. He's the one and only true Hollywood Jesus.
Besides,
Kirk got more action as Captain than the Talosians could even dream up!
Bookmarked to steal when I am on my "regular" computer
Actually, the original show wasn't like that at all -- the characters in it acted like actual human beings. All of that utopian, "enlightened humanity" junk didn't get started until the '70s, when Roddenberry started believing his own press and decided that STAR TREK was a philosophy (rather than just a damned good television drama, the last gasp of television's Golden Age), and gladly accepted the godlike status that the fans laid upon him. The guy was an egomaniac and a serious hypocrite; that's how "The Next Generation", along with all of its anti-capitalist "we've evolved beyond the need for money" crap, and its squishy, dehumanized Stepford Crew, got going.
But the original show was excellent, and "The Cage" is one of the best examples of it. As far as conformity went, well hell, it was a military vessel.
(And you DON'T have to be a slobbering leftist to be a Trekkie. Ask Jonah Goldberg.)
-Dan
LOL!
I guess we saw two different shows. The utopianism was pretty obvious--the "non intereference directive" was talked about while in every episode the enlightened crew brought the joys of liberalism to every world they encountered. The conformity is pretty obvious. And the SF ideas were "new" to TV but ancient in terms of written SF. I did enjoy it as a kid, but the few episodes I've seen as an adult convince me this show was wildly overrated. The three lead actors were well-suited to the roles, but that's pretty much all this had going for it.
The alien race of Pelosians are most notable for their frozen faces.
WOW! You're like a living Star Trek encyclopedia. Do you go to the ST conventions?
LOL!
EXCALIBUR!!! One of my faves.
Actually, as Trekkies fans go, I'm relatively normal.... I've never dressed up or walked down the street giving people the Vulcan handsign or demanded a more respectable title like "Trekker" or anything. Check out the "Trekkies" documentary to see people who've gone way too far.
The hardest-core Trekkies would never hang around a site like FR, being far more concerned about the election of the President of the United Federation of Planets than that of the President of the United States.
-Dan
Caviezel was too ethnic to portray Jesus. I prefer an All-American Jesus like Jeffrey Hunter.
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