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Crying Girl or Crying Wolf [Phil Parlock as "Protest Warrior" - sign-ripping union thug NOT his son]
dislogue.dansch.net ^ | September 17, 2004 | blogger DISLOGUE

Posted on 09/19/2004 9:54:48 AM PDT by RonDog

dislogue
September 17, 2004

Crying Girl or Crying Wolf?

Rather than continue putting updates in the earlier post, I'm going to start a new one to deal with the questions surrounding the picture below. I will leave a pointer there with a note that there is more up-to-date information here.

These are the newpaper accounts of the event I've located so far:
Democrats accused of ripping Bush signs, The Washington Times, September 17, 2004.
Edwards greets supporters at airport, The Herald-Dispatch, September 17, 2004.

Rising Hegemon's The Bogus Assault -- Father Freeper of the Year (should buckhead not be able to serve) suggests that this picture is not what it's presented as being. No, it's not apparently a forgery, the picture is a real AP picture, but it may be political "theatre." In other words, what the picture portrays may be a posed scene that misrepresents actual events. If this is shown to be the case, this man is really no different from Dan Rather. Both deserve the excoriation of honest people everywhere.

When I searched the online Charlestion (WV) Daily Mail archives for articles on Phil Parlock I initially came up empty. My fault. I was searching the current online edition, not the archives as I thought. The area for that was off the bottom of my screen when I clicked on the "Search Archives" button. Once I noticed that, I did get the two summaries to the articles cited in the blog entry mentioned above:

SIGNS FOR BUSH TAKEN AT RALLY, FATHER, SON SAY

Page: P1A Headline: SIGNS FOR BUSH TAKEN AT RALLY, FATHER, SON SAY Byline: SAM TRANUM DAILY MAIL STAFF Phil Parlock didn't expect to need all 12 of the Bush-Cheney signs he and his son Louis smuggled in their socks and pockets into...
Published: October 28, 2000
Words: 952

DOLE SUPPORTERS FIND IT ROUGH AT CLINTON RALLY

"We always try to give them a warm Republican welcome,' said Painter, a recent graduate of Marshall University. Phil Parlock's experience was less calm. The Huntington man said he was knocked to the ground by a Clinton supporter when...
Published: August 27, 1996
Words: 347
Google also turns up mention of Phil Parlock, though not in the reported context:
Five vie for two Cabell BOE seats
BOE candidates weigh in
Lynch may affect perception of women in combat

Rising Hegemon makes in interesting observation about the photo also. The young man in the backwards baseball hat, who many have taken to be a union goon who ripped up the Bush-Cheney sign, looks a lot like Phil Parlock. Check out the family picture posted there and compare. Rising Hegemon says, "This guy is a serial disrupter with pretty much the same story every time." I am unwilling to accept that conclusion based on the evidence presented, though it is a possibility.

First: Since when is holding up an opposition sign, especially if it's away from the main group of the opponents as it's described here, "a disruption?" That's very clearly within the bounds of acceptable political behavior.

Second: While there is a pattern here, it is not clear what is the significance of this pattern. What we know (from the news report archives) is that similar events have happened twice before. The explanation that Rising Hegemon offers is plausible. It is not the only plausible explanation.

If Phil Parlock regularly attends this sort of political event, especially as a "counter-demonstrator," the odds of some sort of incident involving him rises. As long as it's just turning up and standing off to one side holding up an opponent's sign, it can't really be called "disruption," but it could become annoying to the hardcore Democrats who may have come to recognise him. If this is the case, and I don't really have enough information to judge, it's not that unlikely that he might have signs torn away and ripped up or trampled. If you doubt this, you aren't reading the news.

I submit that while I don't have evidence to stake my hat on this latter interpretation, Rising Hegemon is on equally shaky grounds. If he has more evidence, he hasn't offered it.

What we know is Phil Parlock shows up at Democratic events and counter-demonstrates. To all accounts I've seen, he does this peacefully, though sometimes perhaps intrustively. There is mention of smuggling in the signs. He didn't this last time insert himself and his family into the Democrats' crowd as the VVAW and Kerry supporters tried to do at the Vietnam Veterans for Truth rally did this weekend, for one example. But it isn't clear that he didn't do that in the 2000 incident where the smuggling of signs is mentioned. He has done this at least three times in eight years. I'd guess that he has been at more events, but that is a guess. If these are the only events he has attended, this would, in my opinion, support Rising Hegemon's conclusion. If he has been at, say, ten times this number over eight years, I'd say Rising Hegemon's conclusion is on very shaky ground.

The other articles that I found suggest a possible motive that would support Rising Hegemon's conclusion. Phil Parlock may be seeking publicity to help in his attempts at entering local politics (he seems to need all the help he can get, from the election returns for the BOE position he sought). Of course, his motive could simply be that he wishes to see Republican candidates elected, and he's just running his own family campaign to promote those candidates. Another motive is his expressed desire to educate his children on the excesses to be expected from the Democrats' supporters.

So, I don't see that Rising Hegemon's conclusion is sufficiently supported by the facts he has supplied to date. I do agree, however, that this incident is not clearly what the caption of the picture describes it to be.

If Phil Parlock is attending events and counter-demonstrating and having his signs taken away and ripped up, that is still bad behavior on the part of those supporting the opponent candidate. The proper response is the one I saw this weekend. Those who noted the Kerry-Edwards supporters insinuating themselves in the crowd simply pointed them out to the local police presence. Those potential disruptors (and one was disruptive, chanting during a speech) were approached by the police, warned as to the limits of acceptable behavior, and, if appropriate, escorted to an area outside the main crowd. From the description in the Washington Times article, Phil did not try to insinuate himself in the crowd.

If Phil Parlock is attending these events and faking these attacks, that's terribly dishonest and possibly illegal. And if he can be prosecuted under some pertinent law, he should be.

We need more evidence. I hear Phil was on the Glenn Beck show this morning. Maybe a transcript from that will provide more information. I can't listen to the audios at the moment, but they are here:
Listen to Glenn Beck interveiw Phil Parlock on his show:
Glenn Beck Interveiws Phil Parlock - Free Audio
Glenn Beck Follow-Up Interview with Phil Parlock - Free Audio

Here are a few posts on this:
3 year old Sophia Parlock crying at protest, was it FAKED? at Passionate America.
Coinkydinks at Eschaton.
Kerry/Edwards Supporters Assault 3-Year-Old Girl (UPDATE: Scam??) at Captains' Quarters.

I posted a tongue-in-cheek comment elsewhere about the timing on the DU post, but it was 4:22am, well after this broke. Kudos to Rezmutt for noticing something odd about the story, whether or not he nailed the right conclusion.

Update: After reading one of the old articles closely, I can see Phil does go to events with the expectation of having his signs taken away. From experiences documents (on video!) elsewhere, that's a resonable expectation. I'm not sure that I think he's entirely wise for taking his 3-year-old daughter to this event, when he had reason from experience to believe he might face violence (if relatively minor), but what's the real problem here is that that sort of violence is to be expected.

The tone of the article is questioning whether he's reporting facts, or embellishing, but he sounds pretty reasonable, and a sense of humor even seems to come through the slightly sceptical reporting.

One question that needs to be asked, based upon this statement: Does Phil Parlock know Sandy Berger?

He and Louis brought a supply of Bush-Cheney signs and smuggled them into the rally. They stuffed plastic ones in their socks and pockets and folded paper ones inside Gore-Lieberman signs.

As of this moment I partially accept Rising Hegemon's conclusion. Phil Parlock is deliberately placing himself in a position where he knows he may be attacked for holding up opposition signs. I think it's unwise to bring very young children along, but I also think it's a crying shame that a father needs to worry about the safety of a young child at a political gathering. But I don't believe the assertions that the signs are being destroyed by Phil and his family themselves. There is no evidence of that, and recent history shows that signs opposing Democratic candidates have been destroyed rather often. Should any such evidence be put forward, I stand by my earlier assertion that he then should be prosecuted if possible. Let a jury decide.

I categorically reject any suggestion that attacks upon him are justified. The proper course of action is to ask that the police place him away from the crowd if he attempts to insinuate himself with it. In the case of an event with rules about signs, as the one described in the 2000 incident was, they should ask the police to eject him, not take matters into their own hands (and his signs into theirs in order to destroy them). Anyone who is not a proper authority who takes signs from a peaceful protester and destroys them is at best a vigilante, at worst a thug and a thief.

Update: The union involved has issued an apology (hat tip: Captain's Quarters), which makes clear that the union itself, International Union of Painters and Allied Trades, believes that a member did participate in the incident in a less than proper manner:

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the fullest extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades

And Michelle Malkin adds more: THE LEFT IS DESPERATE FOR A HOAX

A commentor adds:

This afternoon, I called the Union headquarters. According to the general president's staff, the union is still investigating the incident and has NOT identified the man in the picture. I was informed that the apology was issued in the possible event of the jackass in the photo being a union member. Claims that the union believes him to be a member are incorrect. They are investigating. That is all for now.
That's fair enough. But that the union is doing so speaks to my point that we do have a problem: the sort of behavior the union is looking into is not unexpected. Were it, the union would say "we are looking into the possibilility that a member might be involved, but we don't really believe that's the case." I will add, I do appreciate their quick response. They could be pulling a Rather and denying everything.

I've listened the the Glenn Beck interviews now. Phil says he's done this other times without violence of any sort resulting. That adds to my earlier statement that this result may not be the norm, as Rising Hegemon assumes. But I do think his is a family of unofficial "protest warriors." That's fine. They should not be assaulted. But if they are sneaking in where the rules say they should not be with signs, they should also be removed by proper authorities.

I see that Michelle Malkin has updated her entry too, and pointed my way (thanks, Michelle).

And let me state for the record: If the union or I or anyone else finds out that this was staged, I will be the loudest to condemn Parlock and will send an apology and a dozen roses to Attaturk at Rising Hegemon.
I agree with her sentiment here (as I've stated above a couple times), but I won't send Attaturk roses.

Update: (hat tip: Blogs for Bush) USNews.com has this by Paul Bedard:

If the picture of little 3-year-old Sophia Parlock crying after some Kerry-Edwards supporters tore up her Bush-Cheney poster got to you, well, you weren't the only one. President Bush and even first pup Barney were dismayed too, we hear. It happened at a West Virginia rally last week for Democratic running mate Sen. John Edwards, to which Phil Parlock brought his daughter. After seeing the picture of the tearful Sophia on her dad's shoulders, aides said the president was sending her a little note Friday along with a signed campaign poster and an autographed photo of the prez and his dog. "Dear Sophia," Bush penned, "Thank you for supporting my campaign. I understand someone tore up your sign. So I am sending you a new sign and a signed picture. Please give my best to your family. Sincerely, George W. Bush." And on the picture, he inked: "To Sophia, Best wishes from me and Barney." Phil Parlock tells us it really wasn't necessary. "He already said 'Thank you' when he hugged her" at a previous Bush rally they attended, he says. "She bragged for days."

Also, I've read comments on the picture posted below questioning whether it's authentic (not my version, but the original as posted elsewhere). Look at the pictures in the articles at the top of this post and you'll see a slightly different shot, with the same elements present. Also, remember that tweaking the size of jpgs results in artifacts. If you do it more than once, as is apt to be the case where blogs are borrowing from each other, these artifacts proliferate.

Update: Media Matters, the left's media watchdog, has a post up on this that adds a little new information. The photographer, listed as an AP photographer on the article photos, is not an AP photographer according to Media Matters:

Snyder is not an Associated Press photographer; he is listed as "chief photographer" on the masthead of The Herald-Dispatch, which bills itself as "the online news authority for Huntington, West Virginia, Southern Ohio and Eastern Kentucky.
I'm no expert on how AP works, but I suspect this is shaving a point pretty finely. Most syndicates, like AP, work with stringers whose work is listed under the "brand" of the syndicate. The spin in the post is clearly aimed at insinuating some sort of conspiracy, but there is nothing more than circumstantial evidence offered. And that is also consistent with my conclusion, that the Parlock family are informal "protest warriors" who make a point of showing the intolerance of Democratic supporters. How useful this is is an open question. It is certainly not illegal on its face. Unlike the response they provoke.

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This is one of the BEST summaries of "RippedSignGate" that I have seen online yet.
For MORE comments from this marvelous blog, please CLICK HERE.
See also the MONSTER thread by FReeper rintense, who first broke this story (on FR, naturally) here:
Kerry Supporters Tear Up Bush-Cheney Sign, Make Little Girl Cry
  Posted by rintense
On News/Activism 09/16/2004 4:14:16 PM PDT · 1,642 replies · 47,384+ views


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1 posted on 09/19/2004 9:54:48 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: rintense; spiderman9
Here are a few posts from a newbie FReeper (spiderman9) who appears to be one of Sophia Parlock's older brothers:
Kerry Supporters Tear Up Bush-Cheney Sign, Make Little Girl Cry
  Posted by spiderman9 to truecons
On News/Activism 09/16/2004 11:38:21 PM PDT · 1,236 of 1,592

Little girl's brother-

-- snip --

What all you Freepers (I learned a new word today!) can do for my family is to show the same kind of support for our president, maybe attend Kerry/Edwards rallies yourself... showing the same kind of respect, perserverence, and steadfast resolve that we have tried to show. Please bring good credit upon yourselves and our president.

BTW I will give Sophia big hug tomorrow for all of you. She is a cutie. Thank you.
hmm, "Thank you" is what President Bush said to Sophia when she gave him a hug at the Bush rally last Friday.


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Kerry Supporters Tear Up Bush-Cheney Sign, Make Little Girl Cry
  Posted by spiderman9 to RonDog
On News/Activism 09/16/2004 10:55:56 PM PDT · 1,195 of 1,592

little girl's big brother-

Dame Autour, yes, i am Philip, II

BTW we got the plate number of the guy who threw the torn sign pieces at us and called him in to the littering hotline. Although my dad was distraught with those taking and ripping up signs, he continued to endure and show restraint- we weren't there to cause trouble, rather, we were there show the dedication of Bush supporters.


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Kerry Supporters Tear Up Bush-Cheney Sign, Make Little Girl Cry
  Posted by spiderman9 to DameAutour
On News/Activism 09/16/2004 10:36:58 PM PDT · 1,159 of 1,592

Little girl's brother-

Yes, Sophia is ok, but a little confused because "the people changed and got mean" as soon as she held up her sign. We were at the visit in the hopes of winning the people who are unsure and reassuring those who support President Bush. Among those supporters, much to my surprise and delight, were one of the drivers for the Edwards motorcade (who honked and gave a thumbs up after dropping off Edwards) and some police from both WV and Ohio.


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Kerry Supporters Tear Up Bush-Cheney Sign, Make Little Girl Cry
  Posted by spiderman9 to spiderman9
On News/Activism 09/16/2004 10:15:28 PM PDT · 1,115 of 1,592

Little girl's big brother, again-

Thank you for sending this to Drudge Report, and for all of the support. I was at the Edwards visit to the tri-state airport in Kenova, WV (near Huntington). I was not up front with my dad and siblings, but at the entrance to the airport, silently greeting airport traffic, as well as Sen. Edwards with a homemade Bush sign and U.S. and West Virginia flags.


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Kerry Supporters Tear Up Bush-Cheney Sign, Make Little Girl Cry
  Posted by spiderman9 to rintense
On News/Activism 09/16/2004 10:06:44 PM PDT · 1,095 of 1,592

To: everybody.

I am an older brother of the little girl. I have read many of your posts, and am dying to answer your questions you have had. For starters, someone did their homework, and, yes, you have the right Phil Parlock. Father of 10, participated in Junior Achievement, NAACP, 4 time candidate for Board of Education, 2 children in the National Guard, of which I am one. Yes, the little boy is the little girl's and my brother, upset with the IUPAT guy.


2 posted on 09/19/2004 10:01:43 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma; ...
"Yes, the little boy is the little girl's and my brother, upset with the IUPAT guy." - spiderman9
Some of the conspiracy/confusion about a Parlock "brother" in this picture stems from the fact that Sophie's 11-year-old big brother **is** in this picture, on the RIGHT...
...trying valiantly to find a way to protect his little sister from the union thugs.
Apparently, the DUmmies assumed that this meant that the union thug on the LEFT must also be one of the Parlock boys.

If this sign-ripping goon really WAS a "plant" - and NOT a union thug...

...you can be sure that we would have heard about it from the KerryRATs by now, IMHO.
Still, it would be nice to know the TRUE IDENTITY of this sign-ripping, three-year-old-girl attacking, Kerry/Edwards-supporting "girlie man" union thug - ASAP.
3 posted on 09/19/2004 10:14:08 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: big_sis_10; AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; ...
And, THIS appears to be from little Sophia's big SISTER (newbie FReeper big_sis_10):

Evidenced that the crying girl was staged (a summary) (DU Barf Alert)
  Posted by big_sis_10 to Ciexyz
On Bloggers & Personal 09/17/2004 11:13:37 AM PDT · 32 of 36

To all:

I've already been on another thread defending my family and the legitimacy of this photo and the story that goes with it.

In the picture of our family on the truck, I'm the one driving it. I'm the oldest and I feel compelled to defend my family.

Many people have already said they don't believe I'm Sophia's sister. That's understandable considering how many whackos there are out there, but I am Sophia and Alex's sister.

The picture is legit. THERE IS NO RESEMBLANCE BETWEEN THE THUG AND MY BROTHER. I will try to see if Dad will post a better family pic somewhere on here so you can all see for yourselves that the Democrats are ashamed of the union man but are trying to play it off as if it was staged. It is sad that they can't just say they're sorry for the actions of one or two thugs and move on. Instead they twist it around to shame my father and discredit our family.

SHAME ON THEM!!!

My sister is THREE YEARS OLD!!!

How many kids that old can cry on cue????? She is one of the best-natured kids there are and she hardly ever cries. I just wanted to get on here and clarify that the picture is legit. The Democrats are just ashamed at what happened and are trying to put the blame elsewhere.

Well, let me tell you what.... THAT THUG HAD NO RIGHT TO TEAR HER SIGN AND ANTAGONIZE MY FAMILY!!! HOW DARE HE MAKE HER CRY!!!!

I just wished I could have been there. Dad is a better person than I and put her safety before revenge. He did not take any violent actions against the man. I'm not so sure I would have been able to be so patient.


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Little girl has sign ripped up by anti-Bush protestor
  Posted by big_sis_10 to diamond6
On News/Activism 09/17/2004 10:52:28 AM PDT · 179 of 189

Wow! This is all very new to me (free republic). Thanks so much, all of you.

I understand there are still many skeptics out there and that is understandable considering how many people have access to a computer these days. I wish I had a better family picture to post. Unfortunately I don't have a scanner. I will try to get Dad to perhaps post a better picture so that all of you will be able to see that there IS NO RESEMBLANCE between the thug and my brother. They are both white and that's about it. The picture that has been put up was from two years ago when I got deployed. Hopefully sometime soon we will get a better picture up. Once again thank you for your support.

BTW, yes Dad has gone to other rallies in the past, but if you notice he never goes with intent to antagonize, only to try to peacefully change minds by passively holding up signs in support of his conservative ideals. In my opinion it is easy to show support when surrounded by supporters, but much braver to passively show support in the face of opposition.

No matter how you feel about Dad and him taking his family with him to political rallies, I hope you agree that it is unfortunate this incident happened. It is even more unfortunate we have people out there like the union man who can't find someone his own size to pick on!!!!


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Little girl has sign ripped up by anti-Bush protestor
  Posted by big_sis_10 to babble-on
On News/Activism 09/17/2004 8:46:20 AM PDT · 96 of 189

To everyone:

I am the eldest of the Parlock clan. I am Sophia's older sister. To clarify for all of you, the photo WAS NOT A SET-UP. Perhaps it is hard for some of you to believe that Kerry supporters really can be that cruel.

She is crying real tears, the thug in the picture is NOT one of our brothers, Dad really IS upset, and boy on the right is a brother and has fists clenched ready to fight. I am disappointed that some of you think a Bush supporter would actually set something like that up. One of my other brothers has been on some of the other threads clarifying other questions. I thought I should get on here and clarify before things got blown out of proportion.

To the rest of you who have shown nothing but support THANK YOU!

Dad had no intention of causing problems. He merely took my sister and brother out to show support of the President. It is a sad day when we cannot assemble peacefully in support of the President. Someone mentioned it was a shame Dad took a 3-year old with him in protest.

There is a difference in protesting and supporting. He was not heckling, not chanting, yelling, nor antagonizing. He was merely standing there with signs.

There is no crime against that. This is America, one should think that he would be able to take his young daughter out and show support without being concerned about her safety among fellow West Virginians. Also, I am disappointed with the WV comment. No, not everyone in WV is related. BTW My brothers look NOTHING like that thug in the photo! Zoom in and take a better look!


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and, more recently, from:
Washington Whispers: Bush poster child
(President to contact 3-year-old Sophia Parlock!)

  Posted by big_sis_10 to Brad's Gramma
On News/Activism 09/17/2004 8:32:49 PM PDT · 191 of 284

Once again I'd like to say thanks everybody! Thanks for the support and thanks for the welcome to Freepers territory. I don't think I've ever received such a warm welcome before. I know Sophia will be thrilled by the poster the President is sending. I was the one holding her when she got to hug him last week and I've never seen her more excited. Mom and Dad have been keeping her updated on what's going on. I realize she's only 3, but she is a bright one for her age. And yeah, spiderman9 is my brother...some I know weren't too sure.


4 posted on 09/19/2004 10:27:47 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
"...And that is also consistent with my conclusion, that the Parlock family are informal "protest warriors" who make a point of showing the intolerance of Democratic supporters.

How useful this is is an open question.
It is certainly not illegal on its face.
Unlike the response they provoke." - blogger dan from DISLOGUE

See also:



www.ProtestWarrior.com

Apparently, Phil Parlock (and his family) were NOT officially "FReepers" or "Protest Warriors" PRIOR to this event...

...but perhaps they should all be made HONORARY members of both organizations now. :o)

5 posted on 09/19/2004 10:37:55 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Many Freepers like myself have been assaulted while just standing there on the side of the street, many times, and we were NOT in the middle of the opposition, we were on our own side, our own corner, with Cops standing near by also!

I dont have to stretch much to believe this guy was assaulted just for standing there.

He may be an idiot to keep doing it knowing from his own personal experience that the left assaults peope freely, but that does not excuse their attacks.


6 posted on 09/19/2004 10:45:12 AM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: RonDog
If you're talking about the guy on the far left with the backwards cap, I can tell you right now he's got convict written all over him. All I have to do is look and that much is clear.
7 posted on 09/19/2004 10:49:54 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: Bonaparte

His sign is upside down, too, look at the guy in the background, with the cap on, his sign is upside down!


8 posted on 09/19/2004 10:50:46 AM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: RonDog
"If Phil Parlock is attending these events and faking these attacks, that's terribly dishonest and possibly illegal. And if he can be prosecuted under some pertinent law, he should be."

This is where I stopped reading. "Dan" simply flew off the tracks here.

9 posted on 09/19/2004 10:58:49 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: RonDog
Please, STOP! Just stop. Don't even go there.

This is the same load of crap they attempted to use against Don and myself. Union leader, John Morris, intitiating the attack against us to motivate his base to get out and vote for him by accusing my brother on the local evening news of being "planted" by his political rival, Jim Hoffa.

And then accusing us of wanting a fight and on and on.

It was my first EVER public protest, BTW.

Most respectfully, if Mr. Parlock was aware of their tactics, because of his prior experience, it was unwise of him to bring along his three year old little girl and his eleven year old son. That was his only mistake.

Otherwise, if he wants to peacefully protest the opposition, there is nothing wrong with that, even if he is attacked again and again.

The signs of the protesters are their property. No one has a right to grab them and rip them up. It is theft and debasing property.

If the police don't arrest these people for the above, then protesters should start filing private criminal complaints to have them prosecuted and then sue them civilly for violating their rights to peacable assembly and freedom of speech. Period.

10 posted on 09/19/2004 11:31:00 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: RonDog
Please, STOP! Just stop. Don't even go there.

This is the same load of crap they attempted to use against Don and myself. Union leader, John Morris, intitiating the attack against us to motivate his base to get out and vote for him by accusing my brother on the local evening news of being "planted" by his political rival, Jim Hoffa.

And then accusing us of wanting a fight and on and on.

It was my first EVER public protest, BTW.

Most respectfully, if Mr. Parlock was aware of their tactics, because of his prior experience, it was unwise of him to bring along his three year old little girl and his eleven year old son. That was his only mistake.

Otherwise, if he wants to peacefully protest the opposition, there is nothing wrong with that, even if he is attacked again and again.

The signs of the protesters are their property. No one has a right to grab them and rip them up. It is theft and debasing property.

If the police don't arrest these people for the above, then protesters should start filing private criminal complaints to have them prosecuted and then sue them civilly for violating their rights to peacable assembly and freedom of speech. Period.

11 posted on 09/19/2004 11:31:34 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Bonaparte
he's got convict written all over him

Yup. At the very least, he's familiar with the rountine at the county lockup.

12 posted on 09/19/2004 11:41:59 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: RonDog

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13 posted on 09/19/2004 11:47:35 AM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: RonDog
Sorry for the double post. My first post looked as though it hadn't posted even after I pressed the refresh button.

This stuff is right out of their unofficial playbook.

14 posted on 09/19/2004 11:51:34 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: RonDog

Thanks for posting a coherent summary, dawg!

It's kind of interesting to see the left melt down over this, almost as if they're embarassed over the behavior of their "painter's union" goons at public venues. Which is strange, because at every single event that I've attended over the last four years at which the "painter's union" shows up, there has been some sort of violence. It's not limited to them, of course, but if the union "enforcers" are wearing a painter's union shirt or cap, you can bet that they are there to mix it up. Every. Single. Time. It can't be an accident.


15 posted on 09/19/2004 11:53:26 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: RonDog; Outraged

We know full well that it doesn't take a "set-up" for the leftist commies to attack. They do it all the time. They are disrespectful jackasses and this kind of behavior (like ripping a sign away from a baby) is disgusting and typical.


16 posted on 09/19/2004 12:10:04 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: RaceBannon

Look, the union only pays him $40 an hour to be there and hold a sign. If they want him to hold the sign right-side-up, then first, he's going to have to get clearance from the right-side-up sign holders' union local. Then he's going to have to get specialized training in right-side-up sign holding technology, which means he's also going to have to learn to read. This will put him at a much higher hourly union scale and that sort of thing diverts too much money from the kerry campaign. The smart thing for the union to do is to put the signs on long sticks and arrange to have the shovel-leaners union (the $40 per hour guys you always see by the side of the freeway) come in there and simply apply the same shovel-leaning skills they have honed and perfected over many years.


17 posted on 09/19/2004 1:28:49 PM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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To: RonDog
Apparently, the DUmmies assumed that this meant that the union thug on the LEFT must also be one of the Parlock boys.

Yeah right. You know... the "D" stands for dummy

18 posted on 09/19/2004 1:46:47 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
From that DUmmy allegation thread:
...According to Parlock, in a description of the scuffle that in the Washington, DC, Times yesterday, “They just pounced on us. She was crying; they were pushing and shoving her. She was scared.” (3)

As the little girl’s photo circulated the internet, many members of Democratic Underground questioned the incident. After scouring the internet, they discovered that the photographer, Randy Snyder, who captured the image of the crying toddler, is chief photo editor of one newspaper that has frequently featured Phil Parlock’s conservative activism and interned with another newspaper that carried article about Parlock. Therefore, the photograph was not just a lucky shot by some AP photographer who happened to witness the ugly scene. Could Snyder and Parlock have planned the nasty shot? Could they have been working in collusion? Would a true journalist stoop so low? (4)

But there’s an additional twist—a twist that demonstrates just how twisted men like Parlock can be. One very perceptive DUer found a photograph of the Parlock clan on the internet—at the Herald-Dispatch website, which employs camerabug Snyder—and she noticed that one of the older sons bears a striking resemblance to the union worker who accosted Parlock’s shouldered daughter:

The Parlock clan:


A comparison of the “union worker” and the Parlock son:


And, to demonstrate the familial similarities, a comparison of the “union worker” and Phil Parlock:
>>>>>>>

Michelle Malin was right: these leftist maroons want to discover a hoax as powerful as our RATHGATE story so badly that they will grasp at ANY straw in this story, no matter how minimally gounded it is in fact.

Their CURRENT charges against the Parlocks are more or less summarized as follows:

"All them white boys in West Viginia look alike, so they MUST be related."
How racist of them. :o)
19 posted on 09/19/2004 2:08:27 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: TAdams8591

That double post is just fine, your broher was not just assaulted like some were but out-right beaten.


20 posted on 09/19/2004 2:09:01 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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