Posted on 07/28/2018 10:05:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A military coup in the United States? What a far-fetched idea! The US military has always been under strict civilian control and has stayed out of politics. America is no banana republic where generals strut around in peacock uniforms and tell politicians what to do.
However, over the past year and a half America has changed beyond recognition. Who couldve imagined that a US President would lie on average three times per day, attack the free press and the judiciary and side with a foreign enemy against the CIA and the FBI? Who couldve thought that the Republicans would gleefully punch holes in the Federal budget and embrace Russia? Whose sick mind couldve envisioned the Evangelicals thanking the Lord for a libertine in the White House? For that matter, who couldve predicted that Donald Trump of all people would one day become the Leader of the Free World?
Trumps supporters have said that his removal from power would lead to an armed rebellion. Indeed, the country is sharply and irreconcilably split along ideological lines. Can its military long remain above the fray?
Trump has accumulated a long list of transgressions against any conceivable military code of honor. He is a Vietnam-era draft dodger who got deferrals on the spurious excuse of bone spurs. Worse, he has ridiculed the fifty thousand Americans who died in that war by comparing their sacrifice to the risk of contracting clap which he ran while philandering in New York.
Trump had the temerity to insult the parents of a fallen military hero and make fun of John McCains captivity in Vietnam. He is yet to find time between his self-dealing golf outings to visit US troops in the war zone. He blithely excluded transsexuals from the armed forces while immigrant soldiers, to whom a path to citizenship has been promised, are being quietly discharged from the ranks. Hes cozied up to Americas enemies and its not at all impossible that the Russia investigation by Robert Mueller will uncover evidence of treason.
Nevertheless, opinion polls show that Trumps approval ratings among active members of the armed forces are considerably higher than among the general public. The generals in his Administration continue to serve unless dismissed by the boss or indicted by Mueller. Veterans of Foreign Wars clap to his self-indulgent drivel at their convention and boo the free press at his urging.
Soldiers are taught not to think for themselves, follow orders and respect their superior officers, especially the commander-in-chief. But there is more to it than that. Trump has increased the Pentagon budget and talks of additional expenditures, such as the creation of a space force. The military loves parades of the kind Trump is staging on this years Veterans Day. They buy into his jingoist rhetoric, such as threats to use military force against North Korea, Venezuela and Iran, and support his demand that NATO members up their contribution to joint defense. Even his insistence that football players stand for the national anthem to honor the troops sits well with the enlisted personnel albeit its only an empty gesture and a race-baiting exercise.
But there is a darker side to all this. Americas volunteer army doesnt represent a cross-section of the population the way citizen soldiers envisioned by the Founding Fathers would have done but are heavily skewed toward Southern whites. The South, however, is entirely Republican. A century and a half after losing the Civil War and five decades after being forced to desegregate, it seems ready to refight the old battles. Trumps racism, nativism and hatred of the Yankee establishment appeals to far too many men and women in uniform.
The rebel cause is now suddenly popular among rural and working class whites as well. A drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois the backbone of the Union Army reveals numerous Confederate flags flying over houses.
Divisions in society have made their way into the armed forces, too, mirroring the overall ideological divide. In late 2017 a poll found that enlisted personnel are heavily pro-Trump, with his supporters making up more than half. Not so among the more educated part of the military the officer corps. Here, Trumps base is about as narrow as it is in the country at large, or around 35%.
Ordinarily, that wouldnt have mattered. Naturally, soldiers and officers have always had their personal political beliefs and voted according to them, while the military as an institution remained apolitical and did what the commander-in-chief ordered them to do.
That has changed irreversibly perhaps at the age of Trump. Among changes wrought upon the American political landscape, perhaps the most crucial has been the politicization of law enforcement. Trump is obviously scared of what Mueller may uncover about his ties to Russia, his financial dealings with Russian oligarchs and his campaigns collusion with Russian intelligence. To protect himself he has politicized the FBI, claiming that the investigation into his dealings with Russia were driven by the Democratic sympathies of career law enforcement professionals, thus impugning their professionalism and integrity. At the same time, he is also working on destroying the independence of the Justice Department.
The politicization is inexorably creeping into the armed forces. The civil war that is being threatened by Trump supporters could trigger a rebellion by the enlisted personnel. Racism, which has flourished under Trump, could open a massive rift between white soldiers on the one hand and their African-American and Hispanic comrades on the other, undermining the fighting spirit of the military.
Equally frightening are developments on the geopolitical arena. There is a possibility that, if Mueller starts getting too close to Trump, the President could start a war. He has already threatened Iran in an all-caps tweet in a clear attempt to deflect questions about his bizarre meeting with Putin. Trumps ignorant self-confidence, lack of intelligence and unwillingness to listen to experts, including his generals, may drag America into a nasty conflict. His misguided confidence in his own negotiating skills could leave America without vital support from its allies.
At the start of Trumps presidency I wrote a column predicting that his earliest actions would include a purge the US military, in which he would replace high-level generals with his loyalists and yes men.
This is what aspiring authoritarians do as a matter of course because the armed forces are a key center of power that rivals their own. Stalin notoriously effected a brutal purge of the Soviet military. He killed off almost all larger-than-life Civil War heroes and strong, independent commanders and turned the Red Army into a docile collection of nonentities it remains to this day.
More recently, Turkeys Recep Tayyip Erdogan spent years declawing his countrys military whom he rightly saw as a threat to his power grab and still faced a coup attempt.
American generals are starting the speak inconvenient truths. Gen. Joseph Votel, the commander of US Central Command, dismissed a suggestion that the US and Russia should work together in Syria to ensure the return of refugees. Russians complained loudly about him, claiming that he was discrediting President Trump since the two presidents has discussed such cooperation in Helsinki. Trump probably didnt like it very much, either.
Well see whether Votel long endures in his position, but the writing on the wall is clear. Trump has already drawn a list of his enemies among retired intelligence professionals whom he is threatening to strip of their security clearance. The media has been under relentless attack by him and his followers for months, and punishment is starting to be doled out. Its a start. A purge in the military has merely been delayed and is certainly coming unless the military strikes first.
LOL! That's what Obama did!
This is a load of crap
Who could imagine that people publishing from Kiev wouldn’t understand that Trump is smacking Putin around.
Oh wait, the author is some NY putz who supported Hillary.
A purge in the military has merely been delayed and is certainly coming unless the military strikes first.
Last I read, armed American patriot civilians outnumber the U.S. military approximately 10 to 1 (NRA membership alone is 3x the size of the entire U.S. military, active and reserve).
If there is ever a military coup attempt, after we execute the plotters we should go after every schmuck whose name we find in their address books.
Perhaps we’ll find the author’s.
Bargaining stage
Of course there are no examples of one of his lies. A list of cliches in search of a thought.
Not from the US military. Maybe the Mexican and Canadian militaries could make a coordinated play to take over the White House. Or Soros and Obama could mobilize the military arm of the Democrats, MS-13. That would be bloody fun.
Trump is the only reason Hussein wasn't deposed and tried for treason after Benghazi. But Trump was willing to stand up. Now the trial can happen without being under the shadow of a military coup.
Why post this garbage? Do we really need to “understand what the other side is thinking” when every other media venue is pumping out hit pieces just like this one 24/7? We see nothing but the other side’s thinking, almost everywhere we look. I read FR to try and get away from that.
Let’s say I were to take my trash cans and spill the trash all over the streets in my neighborhood... could I justify my littering by saying that I wanted to stimulate a discussion so we could better understand how the litterbug thinks? Or to give us a chance to express our outrage and remind ourselves why it’s important to keep our streets clean?
No offense 2nd, I know you’ve tried to explain this to me before, but I still don’t see the point.
Might as well have been written by the DNC.
But then, the WaPo & DNC are the same thing.......
A Coup is one thing those Ukrainians are good at.
If ANYTHING happens to Trump the trash is getting taken out.
This guy could have a show on MSNBC by next month.
The delusion here is powerful. This crazy person ascribes fault to Trump which actually belongs to the Left. He has ever thing exactly backwards...and he believes it.
You are so right, however that doesnt stop the left from writing these outlandish stories. It is like they are makebelieving. (Also include Sharyl Attkisson as one of the journalists spied by Obama on as well.)
They should write a new story about how the American people will conduct a revolt, but target only the leftist media, Democrat leaders and the leftist political hollywood members! We all know who these people are and really, would not miss their foul mouths or global communist lies. Thats a story I would read, or a book. It would make a smashing novel! They can call it Eradicated.
What their plans for us are.
that’s why Trump is cutting off the foreign tariff gravy train that these guys overseas were lunching off of-and making sure enough of the gravy wound up back on Capitol Hill to keep it flowing!!
The military is helping Trump drain the swamp. They urged him to run, or they may have staged a coup against 0bama if hed declined. Admiral Rogers warned him that they were tapping his wires.
“Soldiers will NOT go along with an illegal coup”
I beg to differ. There are plenty of leftist soldiers within out military. They are probably evenly scattered about, but good planning by a leftist upper staff can identify those much the same way Hitler’s SS guys were ID’d as unswervingly loyal to him. A leftist combat unit could be made of such traitors. With support from the FBI and other alphabet agencies, such unit could disable the government. Arrest the president and all of those in congress loyal to the Constitution. The press would help out with a total news blackout. The internet could likewise be disabled along with other communications while this is going on.
In effect, DC and the entire government would be under full leftist control.
The whole problem with this scenario, once the rest of America realized what happened, there would be all out civil war. Imagine an air force base loyal to the Constitution bombing the hell out of Washington DC in support of a loyal infantry division trying to retake it, with militia groups supporting the retake.
Imagine, just like in a 3rd world country, where the loyalists retook DC and have the insurgents hanging from light poles.
Oh, like a socialist style coup. Like Maxine, Smiley Face Cortez and Hillary would like to see?
I got to watch the mess from the inside, and you are correct, the purge started at the NCO level and went all the way up.
Just where most of us would want all the "1 inch groupees" to be.
I could see a different scenario. Trump is removed from office by a Bolshevik style coupe triggering massive civil unrest and armed conflicts between well armed civilian militias seeking to reinstate Trump as POTUS and leftists acting as organized terrorists and being supported by foreign governments including mercenaries. Obama is begging the U.N. to send in peace keeper troops. The US military now upholds their oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and restores order and puts the country under martial law until free elections can be held. Many leftists will face war time military tribunals and be executec for treason.
Who is this guy.
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