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Will Trump face a military coup?
The Kyiv Post ^ | July 29, 2018 | Alexei Bayer

Posted on 07/28/2018 10:05:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A military coup in the United States? What a far-fetched idea! The US military has always been under strict civilian control and has stayed out of politics. America is no banana republic where generals strut around in peacock uniforms and tell politicians what to do.

However, over the past year and a half America has changed beyond recognition. Who could’ve imagined that a US President would lie on average three times per day, attack the free press and the judiciary and side with a foreign enemy against the CIA and the FBI? Who could’ve thought that the Republicans would gleefully punch holes in the Federal budget and embrace Russia? Whose sick mind could’ve envisioned the Evangelicals thanking the Lord for a libertine in the White House? For that matter, who could’ve predicted that Donald Trump of all people would one day become the Leader of the Free World?

Trump’s supporters have said that his removal from power would lead to an armed rebellion. Indeed, the country is sharply – and irreconcilably – split along ideological lines. Can its military long remain above the fray?

Trump has accumulated a long list of transgressions against any conceivable military code of honor. He is a Vietnam-era draft dodger who got deferrals on the spurious excuse of bone spurs. Worse, he has ridiculed the fifty thousand Americans who died in that war by comparing their sacrifice to the risk of contracting clap which he ran while philandering in New York.

Trump had the temerity to insult the parents of a fallen military hero and make fun of John McCain’s captivity in Vietnam. He is yet to find time between his self-dealing golf outings to visit US troops in the war zone. He blithely excluded transsexuals from the armed forces while immigrant soldiers, to whom a path to citizenship has been promised, are being quietly discharged from the ranks. He’s cozied up to America’s enemies and it’s not at all impossible that the Russia investigation by Robert Mueller will uncover evidence of treason.

Nevertheless, opinion polls show that Trump’s approval ratings among active members of the armed forces are considerably higher than among the general public. The generals in his Administration continue to serve – unless dismissed by the boss or indicted by Mueller. Veterans of Foreign Wars clap to his self-indulgent drivel at their convention and boo the free press at his urging.

Soldiers are taught not to think for themselves, follow orders and respect their superior officers, especially the commander-in-chief. But there is more to it than that. Trump has increased the Pentagon budget and talks of additional expenditures, such as the creation of a space force. The military loves parades of the kind Trump is staging on this year’s Veterans Day. They buy into his jingoist rhetoric, such as threats to use military force against North Korea, Venezuela and Iran, and support his demand that NATO members up their contribution to joint defense. Even his insistence that football players stand for the national anthem to honor the troops sits well with the enlisted personnel – albeit it’s only an empty gesture and a race-baiting exercise.

But there is a darker side to all this. America’s volunteer army doesn’t represent a cross-section of the population – the way citizen soldiers envisioned by the Founding Fathers would have done – but are heavily skewed toward Southern whites. The South, however, is entirely Republican. A century and a half after losing the Civil War and five decades after being forced to desegregate, it seems ready to refight the old battles. Trump’s racism, nativism and hatred of the “Yankee” establishment appeals to far too many men and women in uniform.

The rebel cause is now suddenly popular among rural and working class whites as well. A drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois – the backbone of the Union Army – reveals numerous Confederate flags flying over houses.

Divisions in society have made their way into the armed forces, too, mirroring the overall ideological divide. In late 2017 a poll found that enlisted personnel are heavily pro-Trump, with his supporters making up more than half. Not so among the more educated part of the military – the officer corps. Here, Trump’s base is about as narrow as it is in the country at large, or around 35%.

Ordinarily, that wouldn’t have mattered. Naturally, soldiers and officers have always had their personal political beliefs and voted according to them, while the military as an institution remained apolitical and did what the commander-in-chief ordered them to do.

That has changed – irreversibly perhaps – at the age of Trump. Among changes wrought upon the American political landscape, perhaps the most crucial has been the politicization of law enforcement. Trump is obviously scared of what Mueller may uncover about his ties to Russia, his financial dealings with Russian oligarchs and his campaign’s collusion with Russian intelligence. To protect himself he has politicized the FBI, claiming that the investigation into his dealings with Russia were driven by the Democratic sympathies of career law enforcement professionals, thus impugning their professionalism and integrity. At the same time, he is also working on destroying the independence of the Justice Department.

The politicization is inexorably creeping into the armed forces. The civil war that is being threatened by Trump supporters could trigger a rebellion by the enlisted personnel. Racism, which has flourished under Trump, could open a massive rift between white soldiers on the one hand and their African-American and Hispanic comrades on the other, undermining the fighting spirit of the military.

Equally frightening are developments on the geopolitical arena. There is a possibility that, if Mueller starts getting too close to Trump, the President could start a war. He has already threatened Iran in an all-caps tweet in a clear attempt to deflect questions about his bizarre meeting with Putin. Trump’s ignorant self-confidence, lack of intelligence and unwillingness to listen to experts, including his generals, may drag America into a nasty conflict. His misguided confidence in his own negotiating skills could leave America without vital support from its allies.

At the start of Trump’s presidency I wrote a column predicting that his earliest actions would include a purge the US military, in which he would replace high-level generals with his loyalists and yes men.

This is what aspiring authoritarians do as a matter of course – because the armed forces are a key center of power that rivals their own. Stalin notoriously effected a brutal purge of the Soviet military. He killed off almost all larger-than-life Civil War heroes and strong, independent commanders and turned the Red Army into a docile collection of nonentities it remains to this day.

More recently, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan spent years declawing his country’s military whom he rightly saw as a threat to his power grab – and still faced a coup attempt.

American generals are starting the speak inconvenient truths. Gen. Joseph Votel, the commander of US Central Command, dismissed a suggestion that the US and Russia should work together in Syria to ensure the return of refugees. Russians complained loudly about him, claiming that he was “discrediting President Trump” since the two presidents has discussed such cooperation in Helsinki. Trump probably didn’t like it very much, either.

We’ll see whether Votel long endures in his position, but the writing on the wall is clear. Trump has already drawn a list of his enemies among retired intelligence professionals whom he is threatening to strip of their security clearance. The media has been under relentless attack by him and his followers for months, and punishment is starting to be doled out. It’s a start. A purge in the military has merely been delayed and is certainly coming – unless the military strikes first.


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KEYWORDS: alexeibayer; coup; fakenews; illinois; military; obamapurges; ohio; pennsylvania; revolt; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who could’ve imagined that a US President would lie on average three times per day, attack the free press and the judiciary and side with a foreign enemy

Thank God Trump replaced that guy.

41 posted on 07/28/2018 11:10:11 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Shadow44
And some folks forget, there are probably 10x or more trained military veterans on the streets than exists in all services.☺
42 posted on 07/28/2018 11:11:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The country is sharply – and irreconcilably – split along ideological lines.”

False. The few in the media dislike our President with a passion. The author is shallow.


43 posted on 07/28/2018 11:14:15 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Btw, this article smells like bad fish.


44 posted on 07/28/2018 11:14:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
However, over the past year and a half America has changed beyond recognition.

How could a guy living in Ukraine know that?

45 posted on 07/28/2018 11:15:27 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The paper is Ukrainian.

The author is I believe, originally Russian.

Now based in New York, it seems.


46 posted on 07/28/2018 11:16:37 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: greeneyes
How many military commanders did Obama purge ?- it was a large number, but I lost count.

It wasn't just Obama as the Clinton purge was a bloodbath. Some of the best military officers at all levels were passed over for promotions.

I watched from here in DC as promotion boards gave promotions to officers with Letters of Reprimands in their file while the best war fighters were given the boot.

47 posted on 07/28/2018 11:17:48 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For how many years were Dems in control to Fix the VA? Trump is actually working on it.

And yet Looney Libs expect our guys and gals to overthrow the Govt?


48 posted on 07/28/2018 11:20:45 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Short review of article: Flakka is a helluva drug.


49 posted on 07/28/2018 11:21:35 PM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Same crowd who endorsed whacko psychiatrists to declare Trump mentally incompetent?


50 posted on 07/28/2018 11:23:13 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Salamander

So is Jenkem.


51 posted on 07/28/2018 11:23:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are these fiction journalists having some kind of contest to see who can write the biggest pile of bullshit in the world?

If so; this guy is a contender. The Queen of fake news. CNN is collectively the King.


52 posted on 07/28/2018 11:28:01 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oderint dum metuant.

The establishment hates and fears Trump, it shows in their predictable vocabulary.


53 posted on 07/28/2018 11:38:08 PM PDT by setha (England: Once great, now lost to the Diversity Deviants & Mohammedans.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a steaming pantsload of filth.


54 posted on 07/28/2018 11:49:54 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had to Google that.

Either one, he picked a bad day to stop using it.

:D


55 posted on 07/28/2018 11:54:27 PM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Kyiv Post. Reads a lot like the New York Slimes or Washington Compost.

If this dreck is an example of what Ukrainians believe then why do some Americans believe that they are our “friends”?


56 posted on 07/29/2018 12:00:43 AM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Free Tommy Robinson!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is he smoking

The military just got a pay rise, the VA is in process for fixing and budget for this and next year is $1.46Trillion.

57 posted on 07/29/2018 12:04:25 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (WWG1WGA.....Where we go one we go all....WWG1WGA.)
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To: Nipfan
This is pure wishful thinking and projection. Everything they are accusing Trump of doing they did themselves ten times over.

The other way to look at it is incitement. There is nothing they would not do to get rid of Trump, and I mean NOTHING.

What is of interest is this appears in a Ukrainian paper. Many papers in eastern Europe really are pay to play operations so one wonders is this Russian generated deflection or is it demorat inspired. Carefully reading it twice makes me incline to the second as it sounds like an amalgam of DU, Slate and the Huffing Post. Let's see if this gets fed back into the rat newscycle as ‘foreign commentary’.

58 posted on 07/29/2018 12:21:45 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Military coup against Preident Trump. Hmmmmmm.....

Between the cops and the military, I challenge you to find a President that is more supportive of the two groups. If anything, those two groups would savagely defend the man.


59 posted on 07/29/2018 12:25:00 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Shadow44

What’s a coup? Is that one of those big movie premieres or something?

Yeah...I don’t go to those.

I’ll just be hanging out on a rooftop somewhere. Listening to cool jazz.


60 posted on 07/29/2018 12:51:45 AM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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