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Will Trump face a military coup?
The Kyiv Post ^ | July 29, 2018 | Alexei Bayer

Posted on 07/28/2018 10:05:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A military coup in the United States? What a far-fetched idea! The US military has always been under strict civilian control and has stayed out of politics. America is no banana republic where generals strut around in peacock uniforms and tell politicians what to do.

However, over the past year and a half America has changed beyond recognition. Who could’ve imagined that a US President would lie on average three times per day, attack the free press and the judiciary and side with a foreign enemy against the CIA and the FBI? Who could’ve thought that the Republicans would gleefully punch holes in the Federal budget and embrace Russia? Whose sick mind could’ve envisioned the Evangelicals thanking the Lord for a libertine in the White House? For that matter, who could’ve predicted that Donald Trump of all people would one day become the Leader of the Free World?

Trump’s supporters have said that his removal from power would lead to an armed rebellion. Indeed, the country is sharply – and irreconcilably – split along ideological lines. Can its military long remain above the fray?

Trump has accumulated a long list of transgressions against any conceivable military code of honor. He is a Vietnam-era draft dodger who got deferrals on the spurious excuse of bone spurs. Worse, he has ridiculed the fifty thousand Americans who died in that war by comparing their sacrifice to the risk of contracting clap which he ran while philandering in New York.

Trump had the temerity to insult the parents of a fallen military hero and make fun of John McCain’s captivity in Vietnam. He is yet to find time between his self-dealing golf outings to visit US troops in the war zone. He blithely excluded transsexuals from the armed forces while immigrant soldiers, to whom a path to citizenship has been promised, are being quietly discharged from the ranks. He’s cozied up to America’s enemies and it’s not at all impossible that the Russia investigation by Robert Mueller will uncover evidence of treason.

Nevertheless, opinion polls show that Trump’s approval ratings among active members of the armed forces are considerably higher than among the general public. The generals in his Administration continue to serve – unless dismissed by the boss or indicted by Mueller. Veterans of Foreign Wars clap to his self-indulgent drivel at their convention and boo the free press at his urging.

Soldiers are taught not to think for themselves, follow orders and respect their superior officers, especially the commander-in-chief. But there is more to it than that. Trump has increased the Pentagon budget and talks of additional expenditures, such as the creation of a space force. The military loves parades of the kind Trump is staging on this year’s Veterans Day. They buy into his jingoist rhetoric, such as threats to use military force against North Korea, Venezuela and Iran, and support his demand that NATO members up their contribution to joint defense. Even his insistence that football players stand for the national anthem to honor the troops sits well with the enlisted personnel – albeit it’s only an empty gesture and a race-baiting exercise.

But there is a darker side to all this. America’s volunteer army doesn’t represent a cross-section of the population – the way citizen soldiers envisioned by the Founding Fathers would have done – but are heavily skewed toward Southern whites. The South, however, is entirely Republican. A century and a half after losing the Civil War and five decades after being forced to desegregate, it seems ready to refight the old battles. Trump’s racism, nativism and hatred of the “Yankee” establishment appeals to far too many men and women in uniform.

The rebel cause is now suddenly popular among rural and working class whites as well. A drive through Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois – the backbone of the Union Army – reveals numerous Confederate flags flying over houses.

Divisions in society have made their way into the armed forces, too, mirroring the overall ideological divide. In late 2017 a poll found that enlisted personnel are heavily pro-Trump, with his supporters making up more than half. Not so among the more educated part of the military – the officer corps. Here, Trump’s base is about as narrow as it is in the country at large, or around 35%.

Ordinarily, that wouldn’t have mattered. Naturally, soldiers and officers have always had their personal political beliefs and voted according to them, while the military as an institution remained apolitical and did what the commander-in-chief ordered them to do.

That has changed – irreversibly perhaps – at the age of Trump. Among changes wrought upon the American political landscape, perhaps the most crucial has been the politicization of law enforcement. Trump is obviously scared of what Mueller may uncover about his ties to Russia, his financial dealings with Russian oligarchs and his campaign’s collusion with Russian intelligence. To protect himself he has politicized the FBI, claiming that the investigation into his dealings with Russia were driven by the Democratic sympathies of career law enforcement professionals, thus impugning their professionalism and integrity. At the same time, he is also working on destroying the independence of the Justice Department.

The politicization is inexorably creeping into the armed forces. The civil war that is being threatened by Trump supporters could trigger a rebellion by the enlisted personnel. Racism, which has flourished under Trump, could open a massive rift between white soldiers on the one hand and their African-American and Hispanic comrades on the other, undermining the fighting spirit of the military.

Equally frightening are developments on the geopolitical arena. There is a possibility that, if Mueller starts getting too close to Trump, the President could start a war. He has already threatened Iran in an all-caps tweet in a clear attempt to deflect questions about his bizarre meeting with Putin. Trump’s ignorant self-confidence, lack of intelligence and unwillingness to listen to experts, including his generals, may drag America into a nasty conflict. His misguided confidence in his own negotiating skills could leave America without vital support from its allies.

At the start of Trump’s presidency I wrote a column predicting that his earliest actions would include a purge the US military, in which he would replace high-level generals with his loyalists and yes men.

This is what aspiring authoritarians do as a matter of course – because the armed forces are a key center of power that rivals their own. Stalin notoriously effected a brutal purge of the Soviet military. He killed off almost all larger-than-life Civil War heroes and strong, independent commanders and turned the Red Army into a docile collection of nonentities it remains to this day.

More recently, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan spent years declawing his country’s military whom he rightly saw as a threat to his power grab – and still faced a coup attempt.

American generals are starting the speak inconvenient truths. Gen. Joseph Votel, the commander of US Central Command, dismissed a suggestion that the US and Russia should work together in Syria to ensure the return of refugees. Russians complained loudly about him, claiming that he was “discrediting President Trump” since the two presidents has discussed such cooperation in Helsinki. Trump probably didn’t like it very much, either.

We’ll see whether Votel long endures in his position, but the writing on the wall is clear. Trump has already drawn a list of his enemies among retired intelligence professionals whom he is threatening to strip of their security clearance. The media has been under relentless attack by him and his followers for months, and punishment is starting to be doled out. It’s a start. A purge in the military has merely been delayed and is certainly coming – unless the military strikes first.


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KEYWORDS: alexeibayer; coup; fakenews; illinois; military; obamapurges; ohio; pennsylvania; revolt; trump
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This guy could have a show on MSNBC by next month.
1 posted on 07/28/2018 10:05:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump’s supporters have said that his removal from power would lead to an armed rebellion.

I never said that. It's self-evident.

2 posted on 07/28/2018 10:06:54 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, he won’t. But The PIAPS husband almost did.


3 posted on 07/28/2018 10:07:35 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

My tagline alludes to it.


4 posted on 07/28/2018 10:07:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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The US is too big for a coup. This isn’t like France or Germany where an army that can lock down Paris or Berlin controls the country.


5 posted on 07/28/2018 10:10:01 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...in Ukraine.


6 posted on 07/28/2018 10:12:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they didn’t rise up to defend the Constitution against the Kenyanesian Usurper, there is no way they would try to overthrow a legitimate president.


7 posted on 07/28/2018 10:13:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just when I think the left couldn’t get any more stupid, they prove me wrong.


8 posted on 07/28/2018 10:15:02 PM PDT by brewcrew1965 (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Clinton, Bush, add others like punks who killed EM on AC carriers.


9 posted on 07/28/2018 10:15:26 PM PDT by Lumper20 (Dems rarely serve in combat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reality is no longer an obstacle to these people.


10 posted on 07/28/2018 10:16:30 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is pure wishful thinking and projection. Everything they are accusing Trump of doing they did themselves ten times over.

The other way to look at it is incitement. There is nothing they would not do to get rid of Trump, and I mean NOTHING.


11 posted on 07/28/2018 10:16:50 PM PDT by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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“Nevertheless, opinion polls show that Trump’s approval ratings among active members of the armed forces are considerably higher than among the general public. The generals in his Administration continue to serve – unless dismissed by the boss or indicted by Mueller. Veterans of Foreign Wars clap to his self-indulgent drivel at their convention and boo the free press at his urging.”

In other words, the hypothetical coup would not have the support of the military rank and file. Who’s supposed to conduct this coup?


12 posted on 07/28/2018 10:17:53 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Might as well have been written by the Washington Post.


13 posted on 07/28/2018 10:18:01 PM PDT by TADSLOS (If YouÂ’re Gonna Do Me Wrong, Do It Right...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fascists in Kyiv are very unhappy with Trump-Putin summit.


14 posted on 07/28/2018 10:18:17 PM PDT by granada
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From my feelers most of the military is behind Trump. The leftists in government are where a coup is already coming from in the Muller investigation. I think executions for treason are in order, but that is just me.


15 posted on 07/28/2018 10:19:26 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Like you as a poster, think this source seems to not have much credibility though, have never heard of it before and they seem to not know much about which they write here.


16 posted on 07/28/2018 10:20:43 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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Like you as a poster, think this source seems to not have much credibility though, have never heard of it before and they seem to not know much about which they write here.


17 posted on 07/28/2018 10:20:46 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: rightwingcrazy
In other words, the hypothetical coup would not have the support of the military rank and file. Who’s supposed to conduct this coup?

The generals, colonel/captains and millions of civilian FBI/NSA/CIA/IRS/ATF and police racists , atheists, and homosexual/lesbians who were promoted by the Obola regime specifically to promote their policies and hatred.

Then again, there are many fewer of these generals and admirals and colonels than there hand grenades. 8<)

18 posted on 07/28/2018 10:23:27 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The day there is a military coup against President Trump, is the day I leave the country.

AINT’T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 07/28/2018 10:23:28 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only coup attempt is the ongoing coup attempt by the FBI conspiring to eliminate Trump thru the fake dossier


20 posted on 07/28/2018 10:23:53 PM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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